AF6AY wrote:
On Apr 12, 3:27�am, wrote:
On Apr 11, 12:27 am, Dave Heil wrote:

AF6AY wrote:
Subject: What Revolution?
� �His USAF MOS (Military
� �Occupation Specialty). �Was it ever mentioned by him?
It can't have been mentioned by me. �I'd have pointed out that the Air
Force doesn't use the term "MOS". �It uses the term "AFSC" for Air Force
Specialty Code.
Dave, you appear to be reasonably intelligent, so why do you trip and
fall over such things? �"MOS" or Military Occupational Specialty is
the US Army equivalent of the AFSC.

Dave, what was your AFSC?

Brian, don't expect an answer...:-)

That's good advice, Len. :-)

Heil isn't going to tell anyone directly. He will cloud his
"answer" in generalized, ambiguous terms without being
specific.

There's no cloud. I've told you straight out: You aren't getting the
information from me.

Heil wants to argue for the sake of arguing, always with
the intention of putting down those he perceives are his
newsgroup "enemies."

I'm not arguing the issue with you, Len. I'm not providing you the
information. It is available elsewhere on the web. Check it out or don't.

I have yet to meet a veteran of military service who does
not recall his unit, where he was, what he did.

I had one unit in Basic Training. I had another during a two-year U.S.
assignment. I had a third in Vietnam. My fourth unit was a U.S. tour
after Vietnam. I recall them all. I recall where I was. I recall what
I did. What I haven't done is share the information with you. Now what?

I have
also met a few who wish to cloud the issue with non-
specific generalities in order to refuse to admit what their
military jobs were...because they wished to elevate
themselves as doing more than they actually did.

I have not elevated myself as doing more than I actually did. I haven't
told you what I did.

I've encountered a few civilians in electronics who do the
same thing about their civilian jobs. They want to be
"more important sounding" to those around them, raise
themselves by some mythical bootstraps to be Very
Important.

If they are mythical bootstraps, that can't be a very effective technique.

Those won't give specifics, claiming some
kind of "proprietary information they cannot reveal" or
for some fear "of being made fun of" by naming details.

As an alternative, they've seen your insulting behavior toward others
and have decided that they have no need to fuel you.

We wind up walking into a dense haze of pipe-dream
smoke generated by those folks, unable to see what
they actually did...which is the way they want it.

You never get the big picture, Len. I've seen what I did in the
military. You haven't seen it. *That* is the way I want it.

They
like to cloud issues because that is the first step in
trying to sell themselves as something better than They
are.

Let's test that theory. I've told you relatively nothing about what I
did in Vietnam. According to you, I'd have to be peddling a different
story about my duties in Vietnam in order to elevate myself. That
didn't happen. I haven't told you anything.

All that smoke is bad for them...

There's been no smoke--and there's been no information.

...and not too swift
for us, either.

You don't appear to be very swift.

Heil was "in a country at war." Wow!

That's how you work it. You know that I was in the Air Force in
Vietnam. That's all the information you have to work with. Generate
all the "wow's" you like.

Heil "worked with NASA." Wow!

....not in Vietnam, Len. That only took place in West Africa.

Heil "didn't work with low-power tinker-toy radios." Wow!

That's correct--not at any time in the military. I wrote "low power,
tinker toy radios."

Yawn.

Take a nap if the puzzle has you fatigued.

I was in a country at war without even leaving the country.

I've already told you that I was in the country where the war was going
on. It wasn't like being in Japan during the Korean War with artillery
barrages and threats from yet-to-be-developed Soviet bombers.

True. World War 2, first years of the Korean War, the
Vietnam War, the first Gulf War, the second Gulf War.
No "battles in the boonies" where I lived, no "incoming,"
no "denied territory," no martial law. The United States
was AT WAR. Well, Congress declared (officially) War
directly only about WW2. :-)

That's nice, Len. It wasn't much different than Japan for you then. :-)

I have "worked with NASA" as an employee of companies
that contracted with NASA (two of them, directly). Only
one of them did "rocket science." :-) Literally.
Rocketdyne built, builds, refurbishes the Space Shuttle
Main Engines (SSME) and I've been present at several
engine test firings...instrumented by wired and a few
radio telemetry links.

That's fantastic!

I have yet to see a "tinker-toy" radio in any form. Since
Tinker Toys were - in my childhood - all wood, therefore
quite good insulating material. I haven't heard of any
new state-of-the-art "non-conductor" electronics. Maybe
Lego will come up with metalized plastic Lego blocks?

....and I have no doubt that when someone describes an object as "Mickey
Mouse", you're busy looking for Mr. Disney.

At least none of my "towers" were damaged by any
wind storm...that includes some TV yagis circa 1949
in northern Illinois and my pole-mounted discone of
2007 in southern California (that wind storm damaged
my 35-year old garage door opener which required
replacing). Discone survived nicely, all precautions
for proper wind-loading foreseen...without guy wires.

That's a relief, Len. I was concerned for your towers and antennas.
What size tower have you installed at the Los Angeles home? Have you
put up a sizable yagi or are you a cubical quad man?

The tower which failed here was made out your way. It didn't meet its
published specs. The winds which rake this exposed hilltop are likely
higher than those encountered in a place like yours, a low spot
surrounded by hills.

I have another tower and yagi ready to be installed later this month. It
won't be a California-made, crank up model. It'll be another Rohn 25
with guys at two levels. My seventy-footer of the same tower has
withstood all storms encountered here, even with a 40m beam and other
antennas mounted on it. If you're worried about high winds, perhaps
Roger Wiseman can recommend a wire multiband antenna with great
performance, even when mounted relatively low to the ground. It might
even be a better antenna for earthquake country.

Dave K8MN