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In article , "Carl R. Stevenson"
writes: As to how "important" Morse is ... YMMV ... to some it is the "be all and end all" of ham radio ... to others it is of no importance whatsoever ... from the FCC's decisions, it's clear that, while there was a time when Morse was important, that time ended long ago and the FCC no longer views Morse as important in terms of licensing requirements. Carl: The above statement can be objectively evaluated only in the context of future ARRL initiatives and FCC actions regarding amateur HF sub-band mode authorizations. Once code testing is finally abolished in the US amateur licensing process, it will be much easier to re-allocate more spectrum to phone modes, to the detriment of CW -- and I rather suspect that's precisely what will happen. Those who believe that Morse testing should remain a requirement forever will, for the most part, probably never change their minds, but they are increasingly becoming a minority. Unfortunately, this is true. Furthermore, their view, based more on "tradition" and "emotional attachment" thereto, is not relevant in terms of what the license requirements should reasonably be. However, they will have no practical experience in Morse/CW upon which to objectively base such an opinion. Therefore, the usage of CW will be deferred to increased spectrum allocated to phone modes, mainly for the purpose of selling more HF transceivers and other station equipment, and memberships in the ARRL. And THAT, my friend, is the real Joker in this particular deck of cards. 73 de Larry, K3LT |
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In article , "Kim W5TIT"
writes: Ordinarily, I would ask you to reflect on this and consider a reply, but I have been repeatedly shown that that is too much to ask of you. I have tried to treat you with respect, but if I do not receive equal consideration, all that will happen is that you will continue to make a fool of yourself, and I will continue to be the one pointing to the errors of your ways. 73 de Larry, K3LT Well, ya know what, Larry? You have a good time. You must like wasting it. Kim W5TIT Kim: Don't worry, it's my time to waste as I see fit! 73 de Larry, K3LT |
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"Brian Kelly" wrote in message om... Great post Bert, ya sed it all, I wish I'd written it. Your Regents analogy was masterful. They don't have the gumption to achieve so dumb the exams to "their" achievement level and their "problem" goes away. w3rv No the problem won't go away as the next generation of people will have even lower achievement and will demand that the tests be made simpler yet. Dee D. Flint, N8uZE |
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Brian wrote:
Dave Heil wrote in message ... Brian wrote: Radio Amateur KC2HMZ wrote in message ...provides an opportunity for ops on six meters. I've observed the phenomenon before. Your're in New York. You point your beam north and you start hearing somebody in Florida. You figure you're hearing him off the back of the beam and turn it south to bring up the signal, only to have it disappear. Much of this activity happens on CW. Voice signals get distorted a lot due to the effects of all the ionization in the aurora itself. John, though 6M is worth mentioning, it isn't HF and these guys don't care. Its all about using fast CW on HF (to them). Brian How do you manage to be wrong so often, Brian? I worked about forty Europeans on 6m this past week. About half of those QSOs were made on CW. About half of the CW QSOs were made using relatively slow speeds. Those contacts were not made using Aurora. Had they been, all of the QSOs would have been made using slow CW. Were any of them French? Look it up in my online logs after you've finished eating your words on 6m, Brian. Dave K8MN |
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Brian Kelly wrote: "Kim W5TIT" wrote in message ... "Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message ... "Dwight Stewart" wrote in message ... "Kim W5TIT" wrote: (snip) Kim, I don't know what is going on with your newsgroup messages. Many of your messages are listed as no longer on my server very shortly after you post them (sometimes just one or two hours later). The messages are listed in my message list of this newsgroup, but I get an error ("message no longer on server") when I try to read them. For everyone else, I can read messages they posted many days ago. Anyway, just wanted to let you know what is happening in case you post a reply to one of my messages and don't get a response. It's not that I'm trying to ignore you - I just can't read or reply to your quickly disappearing messages (I caught and replied to this one before it disappeared) Dwight Stewart (W5NET) http://www.qsl.net/w5net/ I had my witches coven put a curse on her. Dan/W4NTI That would be witch's... Uh Oh. There it is. I been wondering when the inevitable girl fight would happen. Careful here Kim, I think perhaps you're outgunned . . NOdoudaboudit! |
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"Dee D. Flint" wrote: "Brian Kelly" wrote in message om... Great post Bert, ya sed it all, I wish I'd written it. Your Regents analogy was masterful. They don't have the gumption to achieve so dumb the exams to "their" achievement level and their "problem" goes away. w3rv No the problem won't go away as the next generation of people will have even lower achievement and will demand that the tests be made simpler yet. You've got it Dee. Some 20 years ago when the question pools and easy access to testing was begun it appeared that most of the problems potential hams had in getting access to ham radio licensing were resolved.....save on -. Personal initiative. |
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Dave Heil wrote: "Carl R. Stevenson" wrote: I would have been a much more valuable asset to the amateur community if I'd had access to HF those years I didn't simply because of Morse ... I share your pain, Carl. I've often thought of my wasted years, not being in the House of Representatives. I just cannot grasp how otherwise (presumably at least reasonably) intelligent people can cling to insistence on the acquisition of such a mechanical skill in such a quasi-religious fashion. I understand your inability to grasp the situation...in a quasi-sarcastic way. It's about as ridiculous as asserting that all hams should be tested for their ability to hop on one foot, while patting themselves on the head with their left hands and talking on an HT with their right hands at the same time without losing their balance. Some folks could do it easily, some with more difficulty, and some would probably fall over. Insisting on Morse skill for to obtain what are for the most part TOTALLY UNRELATED privileges is absurd ... there is no other way to describe it. Which mode is it that involves that hopping, patting and HT's? Sounds to me like he's spreading a bit of spectrum |
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Alun Palmer wrote in message . ..
Bringing the phone subbands in line with other countries in Region 2 would be sufficient Seeing as how the USA has more hams than any other country in Region 2, why not have those other countries get their phone subbands in line with the USA? 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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In article , Mike Coslo
writes: I would propose that "200 Meters and Down" be required reading and have a few questions on the tests! While "200" is very good, it stops in 1936. I would recommend the following: - "Calling CQ" by Clinton B. Desoto, W1CBD, available for free download as a PDF file. May be around as a printed book. Stories of 1920s and 1930s amateur radio. - "The Wayback Machine" by Bill Continelli, W2XOY, available for free download or for viewing on a website. Multichapter history of amateur radio from the earliest days to the present. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote in message
... In article , "Carl R. Stevenson" writes: As to how "important" Morse is ... YMMV ... to some it is the "be all and end all" of ham radio ... to others it is of no importance whatsoever ... from the FCC's decisions, it's clear that, while there was a time when Morse was important, that time ended long ago and the FCC no longer views Morse as important in terms of licensing requirements. Carl: The above statement can be objectively evaluated only in the context of future ARRL initiatives and FCC actions regarding amateur HF sub-band mode authorizations. Once code testing is finally abolished in the US amateur licensing process, it will be much easier to re-allocate more spectrum to phone modes, to the detriment of CW -- and I rather suspect that's precisely what will happen. I will be there beside you (figuratively), opposing expansion of the phone bands ... with ONE *possible* exception. With the realignment of 40m and broadcasting, we will have 7000-7200 exclusive in all 3 regions. It would seem equitable, given the structure of the other bands, where the CW/data segments and the phone segments are pretty equal, to shift the phone band lower limit from 7150 (Extra) down to 7100 ...since the upper 100 kHz from 7200-7300 will still be trashed by SW broadcast. This is the ONLY *possible* situation that I can envision where I would consider supporting an expansion of HF phone bands. This is my *personal* comment and NOT "NCI policy" ... Carl - wk3c |
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