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![]() "Steve Robeson, K4CAP" wrote in message om... Mike Coslo wrote in message ... This is not as far-fetched as it may seem. I tried to help out a new Extra in a contest once. I knew he did not have any HF experience at all, yet he wanted a bare minimum of help. After showing him where the PTT was, and how to change bands, I started to explain the structure of a contest QSO. He interrupted me after the first sentence with a "not to be rude, but I'll take over now". I came back the next morning and saw the results of his work. Six QSO's! He was woring at the rate of 1 QSO per hour under *good* band conditions! I know this type...Not from Amateur Radio, so much, but from flying...They learned enough to get into the air and that's ALL they want to do. And usually he's the idiot that Civil Air Patrol has to go find at 0300. Of course he's in bed (didn't close flight plan) of the ELT on his aircraft is squawking because he didn't do a proper shut down. Even in my own experience, I know that I had my extra before I should have. I went from General to Extra in a little over 6 months. I forget who said there's two kinds of knowledge...there's the things you know, and the things you know where to find the answers to... I would propose that there be at least a year wait before upgrading to Extra. Ya just can't gain enough operating knowledge in less time. Yep! Steve, K4YZ Used to be back in the sixties. Think it was 2 or 3 years actual on the air experience as General or higher (class A, Advanced) then you could take the Extra test. Dan/W4NTI |