On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 02:00:41 GMT, Jim Hampton wrote:

Heheheeee ... Phil, I know you're an attourney and I suspect you have tried
a couple of cases in your lifetime. Yep, there are two sides to every
story.

(good story on selective assessment clipped)

Lovely country, eh?

Of course the other side of the coin is where the voters get fed up
with paying for what they expect the state and local governments to
give them and enact a cap on property tax increases which also
includes a provision that when a property changes hands out of the
immediate family it is assessed at the sale price. California calls
this Proposition 13 and Oregon calls it Measure 5. We got whacked
when my family bought a house in California before the provision
went in but after the cut-off date when the assessments were
"referenced back". For 10 years we lived in a house that was
identical in size, age, and condition to the house next door, and we
paid twice as much taxes as they did.

Lovely country. eh ? You're so right.

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73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 03:58:32 GMT, K=D8HB wrote:

I worked for Senator McCains dad, Admiral John McCain II, when he was
CincPAC and John III was a guest at the Hanoi Hilton. Later I worked f=
or
Capt Dick Stratton, a fellow 'guest' in Hanoi, and met John III on a c=
ouple
of occasions. Him, I trust.

My kid brother, who is active in Republican politics in Arizona,
agrees with your assessment. HIM I trust also.

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73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

On 29 Nov 2003 05:28:10 -0800, Brian wrote:

Phil, when did you become an American citizen? Or haven't you?

Rest assured that I am one. Detailed answer sent by e-mail.

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73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

Alun wrote in message . ..
(N2EY) wrote in news:20031129115807.23307.00004755@mb-
m29.aol.com:

In article ,
(Brian) writes:

Blowhard libs have tried soooo hard to wreck this country.

So have blowhard conservatives.

They've nearly succeeded,

How is this country "wrecked", compared to how things used to be?

but there are still a few people who give a damn about America, and GW
is one of them.

There are lots of others, including many who disagree with Mr. Bush.

It's the methods, not the person.






Well, I'm a foreigner in your country, but you can't deny that the economy
boomed under Clinton and is now on it's knees.

I'm not fond of the present government, but mainly for other reasons.
Civil liberties and John Ashcroft, mostly.

All in all, I can't really think of anything GW Bush has done domestically
that is anything to shout about. Tax cuts for the rich. Deficit spending.
I'm really trying to think of anything good (honestly), but nothing comes
to mind.

As for the war, why open that can of worms? Yes, Saddam is/was a very bad
guy. Do I beleive the reasons given for going to war? No. And yes, Blair
went along with it, but I don't like him a lot either.

... but then I'm an anti-code test liberal, so what did you expect?

However, I actually do think it was a nice gesture for Dubbya to go to
Baghdad for Thanksgiving.

I'm sure this post will draw the usual 'love it or leave it' garbage from
at least someone, but never mind. I can take it.

Do you really believe that Clinton had anything to do with the
economy?

I think if Clinton had come in to office with the economy waning and a
terrorist attack around the corner he would have performed extremely
poorly.

"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in
hlink.net:


"Alun" wrote in message
...
(N2EY) wrote in news:20031129115807.23307.00004755@mb-
m29.aol.com:

In article ,
(Brian) writes:

Blowhard libs have tried soooo hard to wreck this country.

So have blowhard conservatives.

They've nearly succeeded,

How is this country "wrecked", compared to how things used to be?

but there are still a few people who give a damn about America, and
GW is one of them.

There are lots of others, including many who disagree with Mr. Bush.

It's the methods, not the person.






Well, I'm a foreigner in your country, but you can't deny that the
economy boomed under Clinton and is now on it's knees.

I'm not fond of the present government, but mainly for other reasons.
Civil liberties and John Ashcroft, mostly.

All in all, I can't really think of anything GW Bush has done
domestically that is anything to shout about. Tax cuts for the rich.
Deficit spending. I'm really trying to think of anything good
(honestly), but nothing comes to mind.

As for the war, why open that can of worms? Yes, Saddam is/was a very
bad guy. Do I beleive the reasons given for going to war? No. And yes,
Blair went along with it, but I don't like him a lot either.

... but then I'm an anti-code test liberal, so what did you expect?

However, I actually do think it was a nice gesture for Dubbya to go to
Baghdad for Thanksgiving.

I'm sure this post will draw the usual 'love it or leave it' garbage
from at least someone, but never mind. I can take it.

The economy was taking a downturn BEFORE Clinton got out of office.
The economic policy of the Clinton presidency was what ??? Right,
there was none. He was riding on the coat tails of Reagan/Bush one.

Has everyone forgotten about 9/11? We are at war. Or has that little
detail been forgotten also?

It was not our choice to have some ragheads plow three jets into
buildings, and one into the ground and kill nearly 3000 innocents.
Some of which were MUSLIM.

But it is our choice how to respond. If you think Sadam didn't have
anything to do with it. Let me sell you a bridge in NYC.

Dan/W4NTI




Just because I think he had nothing to do with it doesn't mean I'm in the
market to buy the Brooklyn Bridge. Quite the reverse, in fact. It's a bad
mistake to automatically assume that two bad guys who happen to have
nominally the same religion and live in roughly the same region are in
league together. They had their own agendas. It's just too easy to lump
all arabs together, but the middlle East is just more complicated than
that.

In article k.net,
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com writes:

If he is such an 'idiot' and McCain is so smart...then how come the 'idiot'
is the President?

Oh, I know. The Republicans stole the election, right?

Nope.

The person you have to thank or blame is Ralph Nader. By splitting the support
for Gore, he managed to put Dubya in the Oval Office.

Talk about irony - the author of "Unsafe At Any Speed" managed to put a Texas
oil man in the White House.

Exit polls across the nation during the 2000 election showed that the following
response when asked what they would have done if Nader had not run, or had
quit:

About 1/4 said they'd vote for Bush
About 1/4 said they'd stay home, vote for another 3rd part candidate, etc.
About 1/2 said they'd vote for Gore.

Ralph got about 3 million votes across the country, so if 750,000 had gone for
Bush and 1.5 million for Gore, it would have been a very different election.
State-by-state analysis shows that several close states - particularly Florida
- would have been solid for Gore.

The situation was similar to what Perot did, only this time the Republicans
were the beneficiaries.

Thanks, Ralph

73 de Jim, N2EY

On 30 Nov 2003 04:24:46 -0800, Brian wrote:

I never did see the pictures of Dr. Laura...

You didn't miss anything.

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73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 06:58:49 -0500, Brett wrote:

And it could very well delay a new artificial limb for my friend
who was on board the USS LIBERTY

The same USS LIBERTY about which the United States National
Security Agency told the Israeli Kirya (the equivalent of the
Pentagon) THREE TIMES "it's not ours" even after the second time
the Israelis warned the Pentagon that "if it isn't yours we are going
to blast it out of the water"?

The same USS LIBERTY that, when the Mirages came over to assess the
damage caused by the first strike, THEN showed the US flag and the
Mirages pulled back.

The same USS LIBERTY about which the US government has never come
clean about the cover-up with either the public or the troops that
were aboard, and even in the release of the formerly-classified
communications transcripts a few months ago never 'fessed up to
their part in getting the ship attacked?

which was attacked by the JEWS.

Ah. now we are getting down to your agenda......

Don't bother to reply. It's not going to be read.

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73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

On 30 Nov 2003 08:39:47 -0800, N2EY wrote:

Hillary made a big show of going, so Dubya trumped her. Neat trick.

Another bozo.

Or bozoette?

It's accurate to call her that. I prefer the gender-neutral version ggg

Point is, she got trumped soundly by Dubya's move.

Serves her right.

"Forgotten heroes of a forgotten war" (from the song "And The Band
Played Waltzing Matilda")

Yup.

And to our service people - spending next Thanksgiving with their
families at home.

Amen, brother.

Regardless of politics or policies, our prayers and thoughts are with
them.

Mine also.

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73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

(N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article k.net,
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com writes:

If he is such an 'idiot' and McCain is so smart...then how come the 'idiot'
is the President?

Oh, I know. The Republicans stole the election, right?

Nope.

The person you have to thank or blame is Ralph Nader. By splitting the support
for Gore, he managed to put Dubya in the Oval Office.

Talk about irony - the author of "Unsafe At Any Speed" managed to put a Texas
oil man in the White House.

Exit polls across the nation during the 2000 election showed that the following
response when asked what they would have done if Nader had not run, or had
quit:

About 1/4 said they'd vote for Bush
About 1/4 said they'd stay home, vote for another 3rd part candidate, etc.
About 1/2 said they'd vote for Gore.

Ralph got about 3 million votes across the country, so if 750,000 had gone for
Bush and 1.5 million for Gore, it would have been a very different election.
State-by-state analysis shows that several close states - particularly Florida
- would have been solid for Gore.

The situation was similar to what Perot did, only this time the Republicans
were the beneficiaries.

Thanks, Ralph

73 de Jim, N2EY


Jim, ever hear of a Texas oil-man named Ross Perot?

That's how we got slick Willie the first time.