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February 7th 04, 06:57 AM
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In article , Dave Heil
writes: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , Dave Heil confused in the east...and north...and south writes: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , Dave Heil trying to go for the jugular but getting only a juggler writes: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , (N2EY) writes: The hundreds of thousands of amateur radio ops work DX, engage in radiosport, check into nets or engage in public service communications without touching a PLMRS transceiver. Wow! Really?!? No hams work in a business that has a Public Land Mobile Radio Services radio? No hams work on railroads or in heavy trucking or vehicle road service trucks? No hams in construction of large buildings or engaged in HVAC or plumbing maintenance of same? No hams are policemen or firemen or paramedics? No hams are in the broadcast industry using remote links controlled through PLMRS comms? Oh, I see your confusion. You thought I meant *other than on the ham bands*! Who knows what lurks in your four neurons, snarly dave? [da shadow do?] N2EY: "Besides, here's a simple, plain fact: No matter what job, educational level, employer, or government/military service that a radio amateur has, if said radio amateur opposes Mr. Anderson's views, he/she will be the target of Mr. Anderson's insults, ridicule, name-calling, factual errors, ethnic slurs, excessive emoticons and general infantile behavior." They are all on HF engaging in "radiosport" and net checking to advance the state of the art of radio and morsemanship? Did I write "all" or did you just gather it from the ether? No, nitrous oxide. In your case, nitrous obnoxide. I have to take an anaesthetic when I go in here to read all this "expert radio nowledge stuf." One needs to dull the senses down to the extra level... Just more civil debate on the elimination of morse testing, Leonid? Now all that "radiosport" and "net checking" is fun and recreational and enjoyed by many but it is hardly any sort of technical advancement or honing skills useful in case of national need. How do you know much about it--by having someone you know tell you of it? By reading about it on the web? By browsing through the pages of QST at your local library? Were you under the impression that hams are mandated to participate in technical advancement? Are there no operational skills needed by the nation? Why are you asking? In the expectation of receiving a straight answer. How do you know that radiosport and public service work in amateur radio are fun? Who told you? You are an Extra. You know Everything because you are Qualified by a federal agency, complete with pretty little certificate (suitable for framing)! You're right about one part: I am an Amateur Extra, but I now about what hams do because I am a part of it, an active participant. I don't get my knowledge of amateur radio on a second-hand basis. I know in which part of the spectrum 10 KHz is located. Did you download that firmware fact from Ten-Tec too? No, Leonard. Ten-Tec has firmware upgrades available. Would you like the definition of firmware again? No radio amateur anywhere has done anything if you haven't known about it. Awwww...now you are acting all peevish. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Worship? You aren't even baptised as a licensed ham, Leonard. Tsk, tsk, tsk, pope dave the furst become a religious sellout? The Church doesn't issue ham licenses, snarly dave. That's strange. Weren't you the fellow who brought up a particular church? You seemed to have snipped that portion. The FDA grades ham. ...leaving you to handle the degrading. I only degrade the biodegradeable amateurs in here. You know, the Few, the Overly-Proud, the (white) Men of the Amateur Copse waving in the breeze of their own unoriginality bravely holding to the standards and practices of 1930s amateurisms but bragging they are state of the art by buying the latest radio toy designed by someone else and built by someone else and thinking they are potential Nobel laureates for doing so. You biodegradeables get your jollies not by operating them radio toys so much as acting like you are radio gods in here and snarling degredations at others who don't have your lofty opinions. Worse yet, you aren't even original in your perjoratives. Didn't you forget my claim that I was going to invent anti-gravity? Haven't heard of that one. Don't worry too much though. It can't make you look any more foolish than your "Extra right out of the box" claim. Said that once before. You can find it in Google (you were going to cut and paste everything I ever wrote before in here...that will be included). I'm still working on anti-gravity. Something is holding me down, though. Now sit down in front of your orion, snarly dave. Amaze yourself. I do that quite frequently, Leonid. Herr Robust, you need to get some radio technology EDUCATION. In the KH2D gentle way of beginning such, here's a basic formula to memorize: E = I * R where E is voltage, I is current, R is resistance. Got that? No? Too complex for you? It's very, very basic law. Fella named Ohm came up with that. Lot's of others accept it...does not have to be explained by Ten-Tec on their website. That's just the beginning. We can work on components of radios later, all the amazing things that happen behind the front panel using L and C and things called "transistors" and "integrated circuits!" Isn't that something, though! "Magic" happens when you move knobs and switches in the correct way. Electrons can do your bidding and create fields and waves in free space! Did you know that others have made actual electronic surrogates for adding machines and calculators? Yes! A long time ago, even before WW2 in Ohio, courtesy of John Atanasoff (forgive me if I spelled it wrong, John, you are not a Hun). I even have one on my watch! That watch has no moving parts and tells time very accurately. Well, here's the most amazing magic of all: Others have found ways to combine those electronic calculators and "magical" radios. Those are called "SDR" or Software Defined Radios!" Memorize the word "software" in that acronym. Learn the difference soft versus firm. Yes, it's true! In the office here is a "radio clock," no moving parts, battery powered, that tunes itself in to WWVB after midnight, corrects itself if necessary according to NIST's prime time standard, gives the date, day, compensates for leap years, even the "leap second" and (additionally) tells the office temperature! Sunnavagun. All that and the display doesn't have to glow! That one is big, easy to read from anywhere in the room, have had it for a year. There's a smaller one in the other room, had that for three years, does everything except for the room temperature. Each one cost less than $30. No moving parts. No controls need be touched to be accurate to within one second every day. No license needed, no morse code required to have one or use one! A little microcontroller inside each radio clock is the heart; a quartz crystal is the heartbeat and NIST's atomic standard of time and Boulder Colorado transmitter is the pacemaker. You know how to program a microcontroller, snarly dave? I do. We can work on your learning basic computerstuff later...first you have to master radio technology (a snap since you've passed your 20 WPM morse test). Later, much much later, you can approach basic programming and its application to SDRs of the future. Note: There's a little micro- controller at the heart of nearly every over-the-counter ham radio today. Has "magic" in it...but later we will discover that it isn't any legerdemain, just some digital logic arranged in a logical way so that imagination and innovation can be used to make that micro- controller do your bidding! Just think. The future has promise for you. Not only can you expand your efforts at trying to make people do your bidding, but you can make electronics do your bidding also! Another heaven for radio gods and control freaks! Now, you just set yourself down in front of your orion (named for the mythical but mighty hunter) and imagine what you can do in the future. Once you learn some basics. Lots of basics. Remember that electrons don't care squat about all your pretty certificates or years as an amateur anything, cannot be influenced by human emotions or egos, will only obey THEIR laws, not those of the ARRL. Excuse me, FCC. Success is yours ahead. Just not at the rate you are going. [the offer on the bier is still there...can you take that lying down?] LHA / WMD |
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February 7th 04, 09:46 PM
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Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , Dave Heil writes: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , Dave Heil confused in the east...and north...and south writes: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , Dave Heil trying to go for the jugular but getting only a juggler writes: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , (N2EY) writes: The FDA grades ham. ...leaving you to handle the degrading. I only degrade the biodegradeable amateurs in here. We're each biodegradable, Leonard. You know, the Few, the Overly-Proud, the (white) Men of the Amateur Copse waving in the breeze of their own unoriginality bravely holding to the standards and practices of 1930s amateurisms but bragging they are state of the art by buying the latest radio toy designed by someone else and built by someone else and thinking they are potential Nobel laureates for doing so. A few questions (DEMANDS) of you, Leona: What constitutes "Overly-Proud" and why is the term capitalized? Do you consider yourself to be of a racial group other than white? Do you know of anyone who has indicated that hethinks of himself as a Nobel laureate because he bought a radio transceiver which is unequalled in amateur radio equipment? You biodegradeables get your jollies not by operating them radio toys so much as acting like you are radio gods in here and snarling degredations at others who don't have your lofty opinions. Worse yet, you aren't even original in your perjoratives. You're biodegradable, Len. Your definition of "radio god" seems to be "one who is not in agreement with the views of Leonard H. Anderson". How do you determine from reading lines of typed characters, when someone is snarling? Are you snarling when you post here? Do you hold "lofty" opinions? How do you determine when the opinions of others are "lofty"? Didn't you forget my claim that I was going to invent anti-gravity? Haven't heard of that one. Don't worry too much though. It can't make you look any more foolish than your "Extra right out of the box" claim. Said that once before. You can find it in Google (you were going to cut and paste everything I ever wrote before in here...that will be included). I never wrote that I intended bringing back all of your material. Most of it wasn't that good the first time. I'm still working on anti-gravity. Something is holding me down, though. So you said earlier. Your purloined lines weren't very funny the first time. Now sit down in front of your orion, snarly dave. Amaze yourself. I do that quite frequently, Leonid. Herr Robust, you need to get some radio technology EDUCATION. ....and YOU'RE JUST THE GUY to give it to me, I'll bet. (much of your crap snipped because it was, well, crap) Success is yours ahead. Just not at the rate you are going. Amateur radio success has been mine for over 40 years now. Would you like to ruminate on your liklihood of joining the fun on the ham bands, given the rate you are going? Dave K8MN |
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February 9th 04, 09:59 PM
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
After having commited himself in public with the assertion "I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue, Leonard H. Anderson embarrassed his family name with the following: In article , Dave Heil robust oberst auf das sandbox writes: No, I don't think so. You got the formaldehyde before assuming room temperature. Dr. Frankenstein would be proud...he created a Ham Monster! "...it's Alive! It's Alive!...it beeped morse code!" [from an unpublished Mary Shelley manuscript] :-) (much of your crap snipped because it was, well, crap) Right, straight talk from a Newington Charm School dropout. See 97.1 (e), something about "good will" and "uniqueness." What next? Shouts of "Drop and give me twenty, maggot?" The gunnery nurse have a cue-so with you or something? Amateur radio success has been mine for over 40 years now. Wonderful. Any time soon you will be ready to be a true professional. With another forty years of radio theory study, that is... Keep up the good work. Temper fry! Not that we're surprised. Leonard H. Anderson is a known pathological liar with a penchant for overstated accomplishments in radio communication and blatant lies about the character of his military service. Just another day on RRAP for him. Steve, K4YZ |
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