"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in
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A good CW operator could out operate a phone operator with less
power, less equipment, and worse propagation.

Dan/W4NTI




A good operator (CW or any other kind) wouldn't say "(insert mode
here) operators are lids".

Again Alun you are not qualified to judge. Since you are only half a
ham. You have no experience to enable you able to judge anything about
CW. You need to just admit that before you have the whole USENET
laughing at your ignorance on the subject.

Dan/W4NTI




Dan, you are not only a lid, you lack even the rudiments of logical
reasoning. I was _not_ judging anything about CW. I don't even care to do
so. What I was saying, since you evidently fail to understand, is that
anyone who says that users of a particular mode are lids just because they
use or prefer that mode is not a considerate person, i.e. you aren't.

There is a valid place for each mode that we use in the amateur service,
and if anyone wants to do all of their operating using one mode, whether it
be CW, or slow-scan, or PSK, or SSB, they should be left in peace and not
maligned by the likes of you. IMO none of them should be labelled as 'half
a ham'. What should we count you as? One quarter of a ham? One eighth?

"Alun" wrote in message
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"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in
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A good CW operator could out operate a phone operator with less
power, less equipment, and worse propagation.

Dan/W4NTI




A good operator (CW or any other kind) wouldn't say "(insert mode
here) operators are lids".

Again Alun you are not qualified to judge. Since you are only half a
ham. You have no experience to enable you able to judge anything about
CW. You need to just admit that before you have the whole USENET
laughing at your ignorance on the subject.

Dan/W4NTI




Dan, you are not only a lid, you lack even the rudiments of logical
reasoning. I was _not_ judging anything about CW. I don't even care to do
so. What I was saying, since you evidently fail to understand, is that
anyone who says that users of a particular mode are lids just because they
use or prefer that mode is not a considerate person, i.e. you aren't.


I never made the claim of being considerate. That is your choice of words.

There is a valid place for each mode that we use in the amateur service,
and if anyone wants to do all of their operating using one mode, whether
it
be CW, or slow-scan, or PSK, or SSB, they should be left in peace and not
maligned by the likes of you. IMO none of them should be labelled as 'half
a ham'. What should we count you as? One quarter of a ham? One eighth?

A real ham is the proper answer.

You know one that paid his dues, passed his tests in front of the FCC.
Demonstrated his abilty to not only receive....but to SEND CW in front of
the FCC examiners. And has 43 years of experience since then. You
know....a real ham.

Make of that what you must.

Dan/W4NTI

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Dan A real ham is the proper answer.

Dan You know one that paid his dues, passed his tests in front of the
Dan FCC. Demonstrated his abilty to not only receive....but to SEND
Dan CW in front of the FCC examiners. And has 43 years of experience
Dan since then. You know....a real ham.

Dan Make of that what you must.

Huh. I'm so glad I'm not an old, bitter, frustrated person. I might
run the risk of being a real ham.

Dan Dan/W4NTI

Jack.
(I'm happier being me, thanks.)
- --
Jack Twilley
jmt at twilley dot org
http colon slash slash www dot twilley dot org slash tilde jmt slash
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From: Jack Twilley

I'm so glad I'm not an old, bitter, frustrated person. I might
run the risk of being a real ham.


There are young hams, and old hams (and all ages in between). Not all hams are
old. I don't know any hams that are bitter.I don't think hams are frustrated
either. (They seem to be comfortable with who they are).

I don't know any "real" hams that are old, bitter, or frustrated. Okay. I know
some that are old. But, your'e saying all real hams are old.

Subject: Morse and Contests
From: (Lumushahs)
Date: 5/7/2004 10:45 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

There are young hams, and old hams (and all ages in between). Not all hams
are
old. I don't know any hams that are bitter.

I know a couple, unfortunately....KB1HMW and N0IMD come to mind right off
the bat...

I don't think hams are frustrated
either.

Haven't found any "preety fems" yet, Vippy?

(They seem to be comfortable with who they are).

We are.

You seem to have a problem, however. Most of your "posts" lament your
exposure to most of us at one level or another...

Steve, K4YZ

"Lumushahs" wrote in message
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From: Jack Twilley

I'm so glad I'm not an old, bitter, frustrated person. I might
run the risk of being a real ham.


There are young hams, and old hams (and all ages in between). Not all hams
are
old. I don't know any hams that are bitter.I don't think hams are
frustrated
either. (They seem to be comfortable with who they are).

I don't know any "real" hams that are old, bitter, or frustrated. Okay. I
know
some that are old. But, your'e saying all real hams are old.


Nor do I thing my age of 57 is 'OLD'. I'm no spring chicken but I sure hear
a LOT of older folks on the air than I am.

Dan/W4NTI

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"Dan" == w4nti Dan writes:

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Dan A real ham is the proper answer.

Dan You know one that paid his dues, passed his tests in front of the
Dan FCC. Demonstrated his abilty to not only receive....but to SEND
Dan CW in front of the FCC examiners. And has 43 years of experience
Dan since then. You know....a real ham.

Dan Make of that what you must.

Huh. I'm so glad I'm not an old, bitter, frustrated person. I might
run the risk of being a real ham.

Dan Dan/W4NTI

Jack.
(I'm happier being me, thanks.)
- --
Jack Twilley
jmt at twilley dot org

And I'm so happy that I'm not a know it all, but learned nothing newguy that
thinks he is the cats meow.

Dan/W4NTI

"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in
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"Jack Twilley" wrote in message
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"Dan" == w4nti Dan writes:

[...]

Dan A real ham is the proper answer.

Dan You know one that paid his dues, passed his tests in front of the
Dan FCC. Demonstrated his abilty to not only receive....but to SEND
Dan CW in front of the FCC examiners. And has 43 years of experience
Dan since then. You know....a real ham.

Dan Make of that what you must.

Huh. I'm so glad I'm not an old, bitter, frustrated person. I might
run the risk of being a real ham.

Dan Dan/W4NTI

Jack.
(I'm happier being me, thanks.)
- --
Jack Twilley
jmt at twilley dot org

And I'm so happy that I'm not a know it all, but learned nothing newguy
that thinks he is the cats meow.

Dan/W4NTI




Jack may be relatively new, but I've been a ham for 24 years, 'real' or
otherwise, and I'm also glad that I'm me and not you.

"Alun" wrote in message
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"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in
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"Jack Twilley" wrote in message
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"Dan" == w4nti Dan writes:

[...]

Dan A real ham is the proper answer.

Dan You know one that paid his dues, passed his tests in front of the
Dan FCC. Demonstrated his abilty to not only receive....but to SEND
Dan CW in front of the FCC examiners. And has 43 years of experience
Dan since then. You know....a real ham.

Dan Make of that what you must.

Huh. I'm so glad I'm not an old, bitter, frustrated person. I might
run the risk of being a real ham.

Dan Dan/W4NTI

Jack.
(I'm happier being me, thanks.)
- --
Jack Twilley
jmt at twilley dot org

And I'm so happy that I'm not a know it all, but learned nothing newguy
that thinks he is the cats meow.

Dan/W4NTI




Jack may be relatively new, but I've been a ham for 24 years, 'real' or
otherwise, and I'm also glad that I'm me and not you.

Dang Alun....one more thing we agree on.

Dan/W4NTI

"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message nk.net...


A real ham is the proper answer.

You know one that paid his dues, passed his tests in front of the FCC.
Demonstrated his abilty to not only receive....but to SEND CW in front of
the FCC examiners. And has 43 years of experience since then. You
know....a real ham.

Make of that what you must.

Dan/W4NTI

That would be an anachronism. It can't be done for real anymore, but
you're welcome to petition the SCA to start a chapter where you can
play at it.

One day QST will run that article in their April issue.