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June 21st 04, 04:31 AM
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PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article , Alun writes: (N2EY) wrote in : In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: Temper Fry, Was Able Baker Charlie From: (Steve Robeson K4CAP) Date: 15 Jun 2004 07:58:59 GMT Subject: Temper Fry, Was Able Baker Charlie From: (Len Over 21) Date: 6/14/2004 11:17 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: You are still going to claim that Brian "lost" his logs, aren't you? As long as he keeps refusing to post some sort of "evidence" for the claims he made, yes. Why? He may know just where they are. They may have been in a garage at one time and in a storage unit another. You don't really know either way, do you? Tsk, tsk. It's not what I know or don't know, Your Putziness....It's what PuppetBoy can produce to substantiate his claims. Can produce or will produce? Regardless of wether they are in his garage, a rental storage unit, his bathroom reading rack, or his imagination, they are NOT "here"...THAT is fact. So what's the problem? Anyone who reads these exchanges knows that Mr. Burke will simply avoid/refuse any sort of substantive answer on the subject. That's pretty much a given. So why bother about it? Brain knows that even if he produces some log with callsigns in it, it becomes a simple matter to contact the various persons to ascertain if they really DID work T5/N0IMD. Maybe. Or maybe those people will have moved, changed callsigns, passed away, etc. I am now sure that Jim was right. I am sure that Brain HAS a T5/N0IMD "logbook" somewhere. IIRC, the exact calim was "logs", not "logbooks". Could be some pieces of wood. It's just that it's empty. Or maybe there's one entry. Or two. Or three. Remember there were no claims as to number of QSOs, band, mode, rig, etc. One local VHF/UHF QSO would count as "operation" wouldn't it? Exactly. For example, I have operated from St Martin (FS) - one QSO on 2m FM. I probably have a log of it somewhere. Ironically, that QSO was with another country, St Martin (PJ7), but it doesn't count because it was via the local repeater in PJ7. Perfect example! Thanks, Alun! In point of fact, the alleged /T5 operation was allegedly on 10 meters, and at least two QSOs (OD5 and somewhere in Eastern Europe) were reportedly made. Given the state of 10 meters in 1993, such contact reports are quite credible, even with a very makeshift station. Good grief . . lotta burdensome worn out nonsense here. Ham radio is a licensed service everywhere on this particular planet except in the cases of some very rare spits of dry land over which no nation claims as it's soverign territory and/or, given the lack of civilian licensing authority, then it gets down to whatever military force happens to hold sway in the neighborhood, etc., etc., the Spratleys being a particulary oddball example. Which is basically irrelevant in this thread, we all know this. Apologies. In Alun's case he tripped to the isle of Saint Martin and worked into PJ7 as a G/FS or as a W/FS as a properly licsened alien. Alun being big on his alienism and all that. I'm assuming Alun had his paperwork right if any was required. The goverment of FS was/is the licensing authority when Alun operated there. Therefore his FS to PJ7 QSO was a legitimate amateur radio contact even if was a DXCC no-counter. Brainiac's alleged T5 operation is a whole different ballgame altogether. Giving him the benefit of the doubt and accepting his tales about having "worked" a couple "dx countries" from Somalia on ten meters while he was there was not an amateur radio operation. The ham radio licensing authority for members of the U.S. military of which he was a member was vested in the command structure of that expeditionary force. He did not have their explicit permission to operate an amateur radio station in T5. Therefore it's patently obvious that his "operation" was another simple case of freebanding, pirate radio, "extended CB" whatever ya wanna call it. For absolute certain he did not conduct a legitimate ham radio operation. It wasn't a T5 amateur radio station, Brainiac was just another unlicensed glom using some xcvr or another on 10M and did what they usually do. T5/NØmind's freebander logs and cards = ZIP everywhere. The real reality of this ongoing twisted bafflegab about Brainiac's "T5 ops" BS has nothing at all to do with ham radio except for the freqs on which he done it (maybe, but we'll never know) let alone ham radio policy. So take it to alt.dot.radio. freebanding or wherever his kind lurk and quit wasting the bandwidth here folks. *if* that were the case - wouldn't it make all of the claims true? And why get all upset about it? Nobody is claiming they worked T5/N0IMD. Nobody is complaining they didn't get a QSL card from the alleged operation. 73 de Jim, N2EY w3rv |
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June 21st 04, 11:57 AM
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In article ,
(Brian Kelly) writes: (N2EY) wrote in message ... In article , Alun writes: (N2EY) wrote in : In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: Temper Fry, Was Able Baker Charlie From: (Steve Robeson K4CAP) Date: 15 Jun 2004 07:58:59 GMT Subject: Temper Fry, Was Able Baker Charlie From: (Len Over 21) Date: 6/14/2004 11:17 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: You are still going to claim that Brian "lost" his logs, aren't you? As long as he keeps refusing to post some sort of "evidence" for the claims he made, yes. Why? He may know just where they are. They may have been in a garage at one time and in a storage unit another. You don't really know either way, do you? Tsk, tsk. It's not what I know or don't know, Your Putziness....It's what PuppetBoy can produce to substantiate his claims. Can produce or will produce? Regardless of wether they are in his garage, a rental storage unit, his bathroom reading rack, or his imagination, they are NOT "here"...THAT is fact. So what's the problem? Anyone who reads these exchanges knows that Mr. Burke will simply avoid/refuse any sort of substantive answer on the subject. That's pretty much a given. So why bother about it? Brain knows that even if he produces some log with callsigns in it, it becomes a simple matter to contact the various persons to ascertain if they really DID work T5/N0IMD. Maybe. Or maybe those people will have moved, changed callsigns, passed away, etc. I am now sure that Jim was right. I am sure that Brain HAS a T5/N0IMD "logbook" somewhere. IIRC, the exact calim was "logs", not "logbooks". Could be some pieces of wood. It's just that it's empty. Or maybe there's one entry. Or two. Or three. Remember there were no claims as to number of QSOs, band, mode, rig, etc. One local VHF/UHF QSO would count as "operation" wouldn't it? Exactly. For example, I have operated from St Martin (FS) - one QSO on 2m FM. I probably have a log of it somewhere. Ironically, that QSO was with another country, St Martin (PJ7), but it doesn't count because it was via the local repeater in PJ7. Perfect example! Thanks, Alun! In point of fact, the alleged /T5 operation was allegedly on 10 meters, and at least two QSOs (OD5 and somewhere in Eastern Europe) were reportedly made. Given the state of 10 meters in 1993, such contact reports are quite credible, even with a very makeshift station. Good grief . . lotta burdensome worn out nonsense here. Absolutely. Ham radio is a licensed service everywhere on this particular planet except in the cases of some very rare spits of dry land over which no nation claims as it's soverign territory and/or, given the lack of civilian licensing authority, then it gets down to whatever military force happens to hold sway in the neighborhood, etc., etc., the Spratleys being a particulary oddball example. Which is basically irrelevant in this thread, we all know this. Apologies. There seems to be some dispute as to what level in the military command structure can authorize amateur operation, and what level of paperwork is necessary. In Alun's case he tripped to the isle of Saint Martin and worked into PJ7 as a G/FS or as a W/FS as a properly licsened alien. Alun being big on his alienism and all that. I'm assuming Alun had his paperwork right if any was required. The goverment of FS was/is the licensing authority when Alun operated there. Therefore his FS to PJ7 QSO was a legitimate amateur radio contact even if was a DXCC no-counter. Absolutely agree. Brainiac's alleged T5 operation is a whole different ballgame altogether. Giving him the benefit of the doubt and accepting his tales about having "worked" a couple "dx countries" from Somalia on ten meters while he was there was not an amateur radio operation. The ham radio licensing authority for members of the U.S. military of which he was a member was vested in the command structure of that expeditionary force. He did not have their explicit permission to operate an amateur radio station in T5. How do we know this for sure? Therefore it's patently obvious that his "operation" was another simple case of freebanding, pirate radio, "extended CB" whatever ya wanna call it. For absolute certain he did not conduct a legitimate ham radio operation. Again - how do we *know* that the required authorization wasn't obtained? I agree 100% that if such authority wasn't obtained, it wasn't an amateur operation at all. In any event, the claimed operation allegedly took place on 10 meters and allegedly involved at least two QSOs. It wasn't a T5 amateur radio station, Brainiac was just another unlicensed glom using some xcvr or another on 10M and did what they usually do. T5/NØmind's freebander logs and cards = ZIP everywhere. The real reality of this ongoing twisted bafflegab about Brainiac's "T5 ops" BS has nothing at all to do with ham radio except for the freqs on which he done it (maybe, but we'll never know) let alone ham radio policy. So take it to alt.dot.radio. freebanding or wherever his kind lurk and quit wasting the bandwidth here folks. The thing I find interesting is the last paragraph of my post, below. *Nobody* is claiming to have worked T5/N0IMD, nor complaining about not getting a QSL card. In DX circles, that kinda says it all. *if* that were the case - wouldn't it make all of the claims true? And why get all upset about it? Nobody is claiming they worked T5/N0IMD. Nobody is complaining they didn't get a QSL card from the alleged operation. 73 de Jim, N2EY I want to be slim, but I don't want to be a slim. |
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June 21st 04, 10:41 PM
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In article , PAMNO
(N2EY) writes: In article , (Brian Kelly) writes: (N2EY) wrote in message ... In article , Alun writes: (N2EY) wrote in : In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: Temper Fry, Was Able Baker Charlie From: (Steve Robeson K4CAP) Date: 15 Jun 2004 07:58:59 GMT Subject: Temper Fry, Was Able Baker Charlie From: (Len Over 21) Date: 6/14/2004 11:17 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: You are still going to claim that Brian "lost" his logs, aren't you? As long as he keeps refusing to post some sort of "evidence" for the claims he made, yes. Why? He may know just where they are. They may have been in a garage at one time and in a storage unit another. You don't really know either way, do you? Tsk, tsk. It's not what I know or don't know, Your Putziness....It's what PuppetBoy can produce to substantiate his claims. Can produce or will produce? Regardless of wether they are in his garage, a rental storage unit, his bathroom reading rack, or his imagination, they are NOT "here"...THAT is fact. So what's the problem? Anyone who reads these exchanges knows that Mr. Burke will simply avoid/refuse any sort of substantive answer on the subject. That's pretty much a given. So why bother about it? Brain knows that even if he produces some log with callsigns in it, it becomes a simple matter to contact the various persons to ascertain if they really DID work T5/N0IMD. Maybe. Or maybe those people will have moved, changed callsigns, passed away, etc. I am now sure that Jim was right. I am sure that Brain HAS a T5/N0IMD "logbook" somewhere. IIRC, the exact calim was "logs", not "logbooks". Could be some pieces of wood. It's just that it's empty. Or maybe there's one entry. Or two. Or three. Remember there were no claims as to number of QSOs, band, mode, rig, etc. One local VHF/UHF QSO would count as "operation" wouldn't it? Exactly. For example, I have operated from St Martin (FS) - one QSO on 2m FM. I probably have a log of it somewhere. Ironically, that QSO was with another country, St Martin (PJ7), but it doesn't count because it was via the local repeater in PJ7. Perfect example! Thanks, Alun! In point of fact, the alleged /T5 operation was allegedly on 10 meters, and at least two QSOs (OD5 and somewhere in Eastern Europe) were reportedly made. Given the state of 10 meters in 1993, such contact reports are quite credible, even with a very makeshift station. Good grief . . lotta burdensome worn out nonsense here. Absolutely. Ham radio is a licensed service everywhere on this particular planet except in the cases of some very rare spits of dry land over which no nation claims as it's soverign territory and/or, given the lack of civilian licensing authority, then it gets down to whatever military force happens to hold sway in the neighborhood, etc., etc., the Spratleys being a particulary oddball example. Which is basically irrelevant in this thread, we all know this. Apologies. There seems to be some dispute as to what level in the military command structure can authorize amateur operation, and what level of paperwork is necessary. You two Veterans of the military can establish that, can't you? After all, another PCTA has flattly stated "MARS IS amateur radio." Since MARS is rather obviously military, defined by DoD and not the FCC, then it is a simple extension of such knowledge to say that military communications is also amateur. :-) Next time you two dine at the Captain's Table, bring it up. In Alun's case he tripped to the isle of Saint Martin and worked into PJ7 as a G/FS or as a W/FS as a properly licsened alien. Alun being big on his alienism and all that. I'm assuming Alun had his paperwork right if any was required. The goverment of FS was/is the licensing authority when Alun operated there. Therefore his FS to PJ7 QSO was a legitimate amateur radio contact even if was a DXCC no-counter. Absolutely agree. PCTA extras always agree. Brainiac's alleged T5 operation is a whole different ballgame altogether. Giving him the benefit of the doubt and accepting his tales about having "worked" a couple "dx countries" from Somalia on ten meters while he was there was not an amateur radio operation. The ham radio licensing authority for members of the U.S. military of which he was a member was vested in the command structure of that expeditionary force. He did not have their explicit permission to operate an amateur radio station in T5. How do we know this for sure? Kelly said so, therefore it be TRVTH! Therefore it's patently obvious that his "operation" was another simple case of freebanding, pirate radio, "extended CB" whatever ya wanna call it. For absolute certain he did not conduct a legitimate ham radio operation. Again - how do we *know* that the required authorization wasn't obtained? If Kelly say it be "freebanding or pirate," it BE so. I agree 100% that if such authority wasn't obtained, it wasn't an amateur operation at all. "MARS is amateur radio." :-) In any event, the claimed operation allegedly took place on 10 meters and allegedly involved at least two QSOs. Rev. Jimmie Who should write a big book expose' of this whole thing. It wasn't a T5 amateur radio station, Brainiac was just another unlicensed glom using some xcvr or another on 10M and did what they usually do. T5/NØmind's freebander logs and cards = ZIP everywhere. The real reality of this ongoing twisted bafflegab about Brainiac's "T5 ops" BS has nothing at all to do with ham radio except for the freqs on which he done it (maybe, but we'll never know) let alone ham radio policy. So take it to alt.dot.radio. freebanding or wherever his kind lurk and quit wasting the bandwidth here folks. The thing I find interesting is the last paragraph of my post, below. *Nobody* is claiming to have worked T5/N0IMD, nor complaining about not getting a QSL card. In DX circles, that kinda says it all. Right. You two military veterans ought to go to the VA for help, expose all that "illegal freebanding and piracy," even filing charges with the USAF Judge Advocate General's office! *if* that were the case - wouldn't it make all of the claims true? And why get all upset about it? Nobody is claiming they worked T5/N0IMD. Nobody is complaining they didn't get a QSL card from the alleged operation. 73 de Jim, N2EY I want to be slim, but I don't want to be a slim. You are PCTA, hear you ROAR! LHA / WMD |
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June 21st 04, 10:41 PM
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In article ,
(Brian Kelly) writes: (N2EY) wrote in message ... In article , Alun writes: (N2EY) wrote in : In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: Temper Fry, Was Able Baker Charlie From: (Steve Robeson K4CAP) Date: 15 Jun 2004 07:58:59 GMT Subject: Temper Fry, Was Able Baker Charlie From: (Len Over 21) Date: 6/14/2004 11:17 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: You are still going to claim that Brian "lost" his logs, aren't you? As long as he keeps refusing to post some sort of "evidence" for the claims he made, yes. Why? He may know just where they are. They may have been in a garage at one time and in a storage unit another. You don't really know either way, do you? Tsk, tsk. It's not what I know or don't know, Your Putziness....It's what PuppetBoy can produce to substantiate his claims. Can produce or will produce? Regardless of wether they are in his garage, a rental storage unit, his bathroom reading rack, or his imagination, they are NOT "here"...THAT is fact. So what's the problem? Anyone who reads these exchanges knows that Mr. Burke will simply avoid/refuse any sort of substantive answer on the subject. That's pretty much a given. So why bother about it? Brain knows that even if he produces some log with callsigns in it, it becomes a simple matter to contact the various persons to ascertain if they really DID work T5/N0IMD. Maybe. Or maybe those people will have moved, changed callsigns, passed away, etc. I am now sure that Jim was right. I am sure that Brain HAS a T5/N0IMD "logbook" somewhere. IIRC, the exact calim was "logs", not "logbooks". Could be some pieces of wood. It's just that it's empty. Or maybe there's one entry. Or two. Or three. Remember there were no claims as to number of QSOs, band, mode, rig, etc. One local VHF/UHF QSO would count as "operation" wouldn't it? Exactly. For example, I have operated from St Martin (FS) - one QSO on 2m FM. I probably have a log of it somewhere. Ironically, that QSO was with another country, St Martin (PJ7), but it doesn't count because it was via the local repeater in PJ7. Perfect example! Thanks, Alun! In point of fact, the alleged /T5 operation was allegedly on 10 meters, and at least two QSOs (OD5 and somewhere in Eastern Europe) were reportedly made. Given the state of 10 meters in 1993, such contact reports are quite credible, even with a very makeshift station. Good grief . . lotta burdensome worn out nonsense here. Ham radio is a licensed service everywhere on this particular planet except in the cases of some very rare spits of dry land over which no nation claims as it's soverign territory and/or, given the lack of civilian licensing authority, then it gets down to whatever military force happens to hold sway in the neighborhood, etc., etc., the Spratleys being a particulary oddball example. Which is basically irrelevant in this thread, we all know this. Apologies. In Alun's case he tripped to the isle of Saint Martin and worked into PJ7 as a G/FS or as a W/FS as a properly licsened alien. Alun being big on his alienism and all that. I'm assuming Alun had his paperwork right if any was required. The goverment of FS was/is the licensing authority when Alun operated there. Therefore his FS to PJ7 QSO was a legitimate amateur radio contact even if was a DXCC no-counter. Brainiac's alleged T5 operation is a whole different ballgame altogether. Giving him the benefit of the doubt and accepting his tales about having "worked" a couple "dx countries" from Somalia on ten meters while he was there was not an amateur radio operation. The ham radio licensing authority for members of the U.S. military of which he was a member was vested in the command structure of that expeditionary force. He did not have their explicit permission to operate an amateur radio station in T5. Kelly NEVER served in the armed forces of the United States. Kelly does NOT understand the military chain of command. Permission to do anything IN the military is granted by ranking officers. Didn't Kelly hear that at the Captain's Table while dining with all that rank? No? Tsk, tsk. Therefore it's patently obvious that his "operation" was another simple case of freebanding, pirate radio, "extended CB" whatever ya wanna call it. For absolute certain he did not conduct a legitimate ham radio operation. It wasn't a T5 amateur radio station, Brainiac was just another unlicensed glom using some xcvr or another on 10M and did what they usually do. Amazing at the range and scope of rationalization for HATING another newsgroup poster by the high-society ham extras. Kelly should explain his "superiority" in not only radio but relative to the rest of society. [Kelly is "superior" only because he claims that while busy inflating past claims to a greatness never before seen by hamkind] T5/NØmind's freebander logs and cards = ZIP everywhere. Kelly has taken on a new role...that of International Regulator And Punisher of anything an NCTA says. Yawn. The real reality of this ongoing twisted bafflegab about Brainiac's "T5 ops" BS has nothing at all to do with ham radio except for the freqs on which he done it (maybe, but we'll never know) let alone ham radio policy. So take it to alt.dot.radio. freebanding or wherever his kind lurk and quit wasting the bandwidth here folks. Kelly is allowed to inflate his single patent to 26. Kelly is PCTA. [proof is with the U.S. Patent Office and several patent websites, showing only one...and that one as co-inventor]] Kelli is allowed to shoot bears from an aircraft carrier. Kelly is PCTA. [there is no proof of this but Kelly will damn anyone who disputes it] Kelly claims knowledge of WW2 military vehicles and their radios as absolute truths. Kelly is PCTA. [proof is in many places, including old documents of the U.S. military disputing that] Kelly has repeatedly damned others opposing his fish stories. Kelly is PCTA. That is approved under the ROE of this news- group trying to be dominated by PCTA. They are PCTA, hear them ROAR! :-) LHA / WMD |
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June 22nd 04, 10:51 AM
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (Brian Kelly) writes: (N2EY) wrote in message ... In article , Alun writes: (N2EY) wrote in : In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: Temper Fry, Was Able Baker Charlie From: (Steve Robeson K4CAP) Date: 15 Jun 2004 07:58:59 GMT Subject: Temper Fry, Was Able Baker Charlie From: (Len Over 21) Date: 6/14/2004 11:17 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: You are still going to claim that Brian "lost" his logs, aren't you? As long as he keeps refusing to post some sort of "evidence" for the claims he made, yes. Why? He may know just where they are. They may have been in a garage at one time and in a storage unit another. You don't really know either way, do you? Tsk, tsk. It's not what I know or don't know, Your Putziness....It's what PuppetBoy can produce to substantiate his claims. Can produce or will produce? Regardless of wether they are in his garage, a rental storage unit, his bathroom reading rack, or his imagination, they are NOT "here"...THAT is fact. So what's the problem? Anyone who reads these exchanges knows that Mr. Burke will simply avoid/refuse any sort of substantive answer on the subject. That's pretty much a given. So why bother about it? Brain knows that even if he produces some log with callsigns in it, it becomes a simple matter to contact the various persons to ascertain if they really DID work T5/N0IMD. Maybe. Or maybe those people will have moved, changed callsigns, passed away, etc. I am now sure that Jim was right. I am sure that Brain HAS a T5/N0IMD "logbook" somewhere. IIRC, the exact calim was "logs", not "logbooks". Could be some pieces of wood. It's just that it's empty. Or maybe there's one entry. Or two. Or three. Remember there were no claims as to number of QSOs, band, mode, rig, etc. One local VHF/UHF QSO would count as "operation" wouldn't it? Exactly. For example, I have operated from St Martin (FS) - one QSO on 2m FM. I probably have a log of it somewhere. Ironically, that QSO was with another country, St Martin (PJ7), but it doesn't count because it was via the local repeater in PJ7. Perfect example! Thanks, Alun! In point of fact, the alleged /T5 operation was allegedly on 10 meters, and at least two QSOs (OD5 and somewhere in Eastern Europe) were reportedly made. Given the state of 10 meters in 1993, such contact reports are quite credible, even with a very makeshift station. Good grief . . lotta burdensome worn out nonsense here. Ham radio is a licensed service everywhere on this particular planet except in the cases of some very rare spits of dry land over which no nation claims as it's soverign territory and/or, given the lack of civilian licensing authority, then it gets down to whatever military force happens to hold sway in the neighborhood, etc., etc., the Spratleys being a particulary oddball example. Which is basically irrelevant in this thread, we all know this. Apologies. In Alun's case he tripped to the isle of Saint Martin and worked into PJ7 as a G/FS or as a W/FS as a properly licsened alien. Alun being big on his alienism and all that. I'm assuming Alun had his paperwork right if any was required. The goverment of FS was/is the licensing authority when Alun operated there. Therefore his FS to PJ7 QSO was a legitimate amateur radio contact even if was a DXCC no-counter. Brainiac's alleged T5 operation is a whole different ballgame altogether. Giving him the benefit of the doubt and accepting his tales about having "worked" a couple "dx countries" from Somalia on ten meters while he was there was not an amateur radio operation. The ham radio licensing authority for members of the U.S. military of which he was a member was vested in the command structure of that expeditionary force. He did not have their explicit permission to operate an amateur radio station in T5. Kelly NEVER served in the armed forces of the United States. Kelly does NOT understand the military chain of command. Permission to do anything IN the military is granted by ranking officers. Didn't Kelly hear that at the Captain's Table while dining with all that rank? No? Tsk, tsk. Therefore it's patently obvious that his "operation" was another simple case of freebanding, pirate radio, "extended CB" whatever ya wanna call it. For absolute certain he did not conduct a legitimate ham radio operation. It wasn't a T5 amateur radio station, Brainiac was just another unlicensed glom using some xcvr or another on 10M and did what they usually do. Amazing at the range and scope of rationalization for HATING another newsgroup poster by the high-society ham extras. Kelly should explain his "superiority" in not only radio but relative to the rest of society. [Kelly is "superior" only because he claims that while busy inflating past claims to a greatness never before seen by hamkind] T5/NØmind's freebander logs and cards = ZIP everywhere. Kelly has taken on a new role...that of International Regulator And Punisher of anything an NCTA says. Yawn. The real reality of this ongoing twisted bafflegab about Brainiac's "T5 ops" BS has nothing at all to do with ham radio except for the freqs on which he done it (maybe, but we'll never know) let alone ham radio policy. So take it to alt.dot.radio. freebanding or wherever his kind lurk and quit wasting the bandwidth here folks. Kelly is allowed to inflate his single patent to 26. Kelly is PCTA. [proof is with the U.S. Patent Office and several patent websites, showing only one...and that one as co-inventor]] Kelli is allowed to shoot bears from an aircraft carrier. Kelly is PCTA. [there is no proof of this but Kelly will damn anyone who disputes it] Kelly claims knowledge of WW2 military vehicles and their radios as absolute truths. Kelly is PCTA. [proof is in many places, including old documents of the U.S. military disputing that] Kelly has repeatedly damned others opposing his fish stories. Kelly is PCTA. That is approved under the ROE of this news- group trying to be dominated by PCTA. They are PCTA, hear them ROAR! :-) LHA / WMD All that and more from a guy who was so confused that he thought I was putting up an antenna at -his- house. Yup, he's got "real" military experience and never been in uniform. Another Walter Mitty wannabe. |
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June 22nd 04, 10:26 PM
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In article ,
(William) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (Brian Kelly) writes: (N2EY) wrote in message ... In article , Alun writes: (N2EY) wrote in : In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: Temper Fry, Was Able Baker Charlie From: (Steve Robeson K4CAP) Date: 15 Jun 2004 07:58:59 GMT Subject: Temper Fry, Was Able Baker Charlie From: (Len Over 21) Date: 6/14/2004 11:17 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: You are still going to claim that Brian "lost" his logs, aren't you? As long as he keeps refusing to post some sort of "evidence" for the claims he made, yes. Why? He may know just where they are. They may have been in a garage at one time and in a storage unit another. You don't really know either way, do you? Tsk, tsk. It's not what I know or don't know, Your Putziness....It's what PuppetBoy can produce to substantiate his claims. Can produce or will produce? Regardless of wether they are in his garage, a rental storage unit, his bathroom reading rack, or his imagination, they are NOT "here"...THAT is fact. So what's the problem? Anyone who reads these exchanges knows that Mr. Burke will simply avoid/refuse any sort of substantive answer on the subject. That's pretty much a given. So why bother about it? Brain knows that even if he produces some log with callsigns in it, it becomes a simple matter to contact the various persons to ascertain if they really DID work T5/N0IMD. Maybe. Or maybe those people will have moved, changed callsigns, passed away, etc. I am now sure that Jim was right. I am sure that Brain HAS a T5/N0IMD "logbook" somewhere. IIRC, the exact calim was "logs", not "logbooks". Could be some pieces of wood. It's just that it's empty. Or maybe there's one entry. Or two. Or three. Remember there were no claims as to number of QSOs, band, mode, rig, etc. One local VHF/UHF QSO would count as "operation" wouldn't it? Exactly. For example, I have operated from St Martin (FS) - one QSO on 2m FM. I probably have a log of it somewhere. Ironically, that QSO was with another country, St Martin (PJ7), but it doesn't count because it was via the local repeater in PJ7. Perfect example! Thanks, Alun! In point of fact, the alleged /T5 operation was allegedly on 10 meters, and at least two QSOs (OD5 and somewhere in Eastern Europe) were reportedly made. Given the state of 10 meters in 1993, such contact reports are quite credible, even with a very makeshift station. Good grief . . lotta burdensome worn out nonsense here. Ham radio is a licensed service everywhere on this particular planet except in the cases of some very rare spits of dry land over which no nation claims as it's soverign territory and/or, given the lack of civilian licensing authority, then it gets down to whatever military force happens to hold sway in the neighborhood, etc., etc., the Spratleys being a particulary oddball example. Which is basically irrelevant in this thread, we all know this. Apologies. In Alun's case he tripped to the isle of Saint Martin and worked into PJ7 as a G/FS or as a W/FS as a properly licsened alien. Alun being big on his alienism and all that. I'm assuming Alun had his paperwork right if any was required. The goverment of FS was/is the licensing authority when Alun operated there. Therefore his FS to PJ7 QSO was a legitimate amateur radio contact even if was a DXCC no-counter. Brainiac's alleged T5 operation is a whole different ballgame altogether. Giving him the benefit of the doubt and accepting his tales about having "worked" a couple "dx countries" from Somalia on ten meters while he was there was not an amateur radio operation. The ham radio licensing authority for members of the U.S. military of which he was a member was vested in the command structure of that expeditionary force. He did not have their explicit permission to operate an amateur radio station in T5. Kelly NEVER served in the armed forces of the United States. Kelly does NOT understand the military chain of command. Permission to do anything IN the military is granted by ranking officers. Didn't Kelly hear that at the Captain's Table while dining with all that rank? No? Tsk, tsk. Therefore it's patently obvious that his "operation" was another simple case of freebanding, pirate radio, "extended CB" whatever ya wanna call it. For absolute certain he did not conduct a legitimate ham radio operation. It wasn't a T5 amateur radio station, Brainiac was just another unlicensed glom using some xcvr or another on 10M and did what they usually do. Amazing at the range and scope of rationalization for HATING another newsgroup poster by the high-society ham extras. Kelly should explain his "superiority" in not only radio but relative to the rest of society. [Kelly is "superior" only because he claims that while busy inflating past claims to a greatness never before seen by hamkind] T5/NØmind's freebander logs and cards = ZIP everywhere. Kelly has taken on a new role...that of International Regulator And Punisher of anything an NCTA says. Yawn. The real reality of this ongoing twisted bafflegab about Brainiac's "T5 ops" BS has nothing at all to do with ham radio except for the freqs on which he done it (maybe, but we'll never know) let alone ham radio policy. So take it to alt.dot.radio. freebanding or wherever his kind lurk and quit wasting the bandwidth here folks. Kelly is allowed to inflate his single patent to 26. Kelly is PCTA. [proof is with the U.S. Patent Office and several patent websites, showing only one...and that one as co-inventor]] Kelli is allowed to shoot bears from an aircraft carrier. Kelly is PCTA. [there is no proof of this but Kelly will damn anyone who disputes it] Kelly claims knowledge of WW2 military vehicles and their radios as absolute truths. Kelly is PCTA. [proof is in many places, including old documents of the U.S. military disputing that] Kelly has repeatedly damned others opposing his fish stories. Kelly is PCTA. That is approved under the ROE of this news- group trying to be dominated by PCTA. They are PCTA, hear them ROAR! :-) LHA / WMD All that and more from a guy who was so confused that he thought I was putting up an antenna at -his- house. Yup, he's got "real" military experience and never been in uniform. Another Walter Mitty wannabe. But...he DID dine at the Captain's Table! :-) :-) :-) He comes from a higher class than us "drudges!" :-) Marie called me, offered a cake to send him. Maybe I will. Trouble is, Marie is another snooty, emotional type. She loses her head easily... LHA / WMD |
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In article , (William) writes: All that and more from a guy who was so confused that he thought I was putting up an antenna at -his- house. Yup, he's got "real" military experience and never been in uniform. Another Walter Mitty wannabe. But...he DID dine at the Captain's Table! :-) :-) :-) Arrrgh! Without photographic evidence, it never happened. He comes from a higher class than us "drudges!" :-) Highly doubtful. He talks pretty low class most of the time, which I find amazing for someone who'se supposed to be an engineer. Marie called me, offered a cake to send him. Maybe I will. He prefers the Dolly Madison cakes, especially the crumb cakes. Trouble is, Marie is another snooty, emotional type. She loses her head easily... "Hup, twoah, treah, fourah. My boots are heavy, My head is Lite..." |
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