On Sep 25, 6:48 am, Steve wrote:


Not according to iBiquity, which maintains that the BA Receptor was
the best HD AM portable achievable.

Probably using the current chip design. Which is still not saying
much.

Supposedly they're still working on a second generation design. Maybe
they should have waited a bit more till the receivers were perfected
before rolling this stuff out on the consumer market.

Stephanie Weil
New York City, USA

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On Sep 25, 6:48 am, Steve wrote:


Not according to iBiquity, which maintains that the BA Receptor was
the best HD AM portable achievable.

Probably using the current chip design. Which is still not saying
much.

The receptor, of course, is not portable.

Supposedly they're still working on a second generation design. Maybe
they should have waited a bit more till the receivers were perfected
before rolling this stuff out on the consumer market.

We are headed towards a 4th generation chipset next year.

On Sep 25, 10:42 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Stephanie Weil" wrote in message

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On Sep 25, 6:48 am, Steve wrote:

Not according to iBiquity, which maintains that the BA Receptor was
the best HD AM portable achievable.

Probably using the current chip design. Which is still not saying
much.

The receptor, of course, is not portable.



Supposedly they're still working on a second generation design. Maybe
they should have waited a bit more till the receivers were perfected
before rolling this stuff out on the consumer market.

We are headed towards a 4th generation chipset next year.

It's too late - consumers do not buy radios anymore, cell phone
companies will not be interested in HD Radio because of WiFi/WiMAX,
and automakers are not interested in HD Radio.

On Sep 25, 10:42 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Stephanie Weil" wrote in message

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On Sep 25, 6:48 am, Steve wrote:

Not according to iBiquity, which maintains that the BA Receptor was
the best HD AM portable achievable.

Probably using the current chip design. Which is still not saying
much.

The receptor, of course, is not portable.

Explain that to iBiquity and report back.




Supposedly they're still working on a second generation design. Maybe
they should have waited a bit more till the receivers were perfected
before rolling this stuff out on the consumer market.

We are headed towards a 4th generation chipset next year.

Right. That's the one that Samsung says will be extremely expensive.

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On Sep 25, 10:42 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Sep 25, 6:48 am, Steve wrote:

Not according to iBiquity, which maintains that the BA Receptor was
the best HD AM portable achievable.

Probably using the current chip design. Which is still not saying
much.

The receptor, of course, is not portable.

Explain that to iBiquity and report back.




Supposedly they're still working on a second generation design. Maybe
they should have waited a bit more till the receivers were perfected
before rolling this stuff out on the consumer market.

We are headed towards a 4th generation chipset next year.

Right. That's the one that Samsung says will be extremely expensive.

Everything released says that the chip will be lower cost, and nothing says
anything to the contrary.

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On Sep 25, 10:42 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Sep 25, 6:48 am, Steve wrote:

Not according to iBiquity, which maintains that the BA Receptor was
the best HD AM portable achievable.

Probably using the current chip design. Which is still not saying
much.

The receptor, of course, is not portable.

Explain that to iBiquity and report back.




Supposedly they're still working on a second generation design. Maybe
they should have waited a bit more till the receivers were perfected
before rolling this stuff out on the consumer market.

We are headed towards a 4th generation chipset next year.

Right. That's the one that Samsung says will be extremely expensive.

Everything released says that the chip will be lower cost, and nothing says
anything to the contrary.

You don't understand the ASIC semiconductor industry at all do you.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

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news:telamon_spamshield-.
Everything released says that the chip will be lower cost, and nothing
says
anything to the contrary.

You don't understand the ASIC semiconductor industry at all do you.

I do not need to understand the industry as a whole to understand the
reports that the investors in iBiquity receive regarding the developments in
chip development, receiver manufacturer interest, etc. Any individual in any
business at some point has to rely on trustworthy sources of data as it is
impossible to know all the details of every service, technology or process
we buy, hire, rent, use or are dependent on.

I doubt Jack Welch did GE's taxes while he was CEO and I am sure he did not
insert blades in jet turbines. His success was finding the best people to do
those things under his direction.

I've known some fine DXers who could not open a receiver ant tell if it was
hollow state or solid state; they trusted a good manufacturer and the advice
of fellow DXers... they had no need to know.

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
news:telamon_spamshield-.
Everything released says that the chip will be lower cost, and nothing
says
anything to the contrary.

You don't understand the ASIC semiconductor industry at all do you.

I do not need to understand the industry as a whole to understand the
reports that the investors in iBiquity receive regarding the developments in
chip development, receiver manufacturer interest, etc. Any individual in any
business at some point has to rely on trustworthy sources of data as it is
impossible to know all the details of every service, technology or process
we buy, hire, rent, use or are dependent on.

Snip

Great let me straighten you out then. It costs big bucks to develop the
ASIC. The more you sell of those ASICS the sooner you recover the costs
and start making a profit. If you don't sell many you have to charge a
higher price. That is a little over simplified but you should get the
drift of it.

So, the chips will start out expensive and HD will half to take off big
time for the price to drop... over time.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

On Sep 25, 10:42 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

We are headed towards a 4th generation chipset next year.

So, I take it the Radiosophy currently on the market is a "third
generation" set?

Reviews have been mixed on that one, although some say the tuner is
better than the HD-Recepter.

Stephanie Weil
New York City, USA

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On Sep 25, 6:48 am, Steve wrote:


Not according to iBiquity, which maintains that the BA Receptor was
the best HD AM portable achievable.

Probably using the current chip design. Which is still not saying
much.

The receptor, of course, is not portable.

Supposedly they're still working on a second generation design. Maybe
they should have waited a bit more till the receivers were perfected
before rolling this stuff out on the consumer market.

We are headed towards a 4th generation chipset next year.

I see, so what you are saying is that it took them 4 freaking times to
get it right. That raises the question of just how good this 4th
generation is going to be.

iBiquity, with the nth generation HD chip set, which expires in six
months.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California