"HD Radio Farce" wrote in message
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"HD Radio Farce" wrote in
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On Oct 19, 1:15?pm, "Jo Jo Gunn" wrote:





"HD Radio Farce" wrote in
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On Oct 17, 2:39?am, "Jo Jo Gunn" wrote:

"HD Radio Farce" wrote in
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On Oct 13, 1:35?am, "Jo Jo Gunn" wrote:

Jo Jo Gunn wrote:

There has been no widespread interference complaints from the
public...and virtually all stations are protected within their
contours.

That doesn't mean there's no interference. ?It's amazing how the
proponents of HD Radio assume that receivers magically quit
receiving
a
signal once they leave a station's protected contour.

No, the FCC has made a judgement on how far and how long a stations
signal
would be protected.

That's the established standard. ?The days of clear-channels being
protected
nationwide are over.

Plus, to the average listener an HD carrier sounds like white
noise
&
they
think it's weak signal. ?Nobody thinks to complain about
interference.
They just move on to something else.

The large broadcast companies do engineering research and audience
research.
There has been no widespread complaints (if any at all), and there
is
no
indication that people "move onto something else".

I've heard on and on about how great the HD-2 formats are going to
be,
but
all I've observed is more lame cookie-cutter radio taking away the
reception that I once enjoyed.

THe formats on HD are quiite similar to what was on FM in the early
to
mid
60's. ?Music intensive, non-commercial, some simulcasting to improve
coverage, and mostly automated.

The audio quality is nothing to write home about either.

The public has had no complaints about HD audio quality. ?And like
the
qualities of MP3's, which is "nothing to write home about" either,
it's
"good enough" and the public isn't complaining.

But HD radio has caused us to adapt. ?My wife & I listen to web
radio
more
than terrestrial radio now, since there are fewer choices on the
dial.

I'd be interested in knowing where you are, and what station(s) you
can
no
longer listen too due to HD radio.

"Dave Barnett" wrote in message

...

Jo Jo Gunn wrote:

There has been no widespread interference complaints from the
public...and virtually all stations are protected within their
contours.

That doesn't mean there's no interference. ?It's amazing how the
proponents of HD Radio assume that receivers magically quit
receiving
a
signal once they leave a station's protected contour. ?Plus, to
the
average listener an HD carrier sounds like white noise & they
think
it's
weak signal. ?Nobody thinks to complain about interference. ?They
just
move on to something else.

I've heard on and on about how great the HD-2 formats are going to
be,
but
all I've observed is more lame cookie-cutter radio taking away the
reception that I once enjoyed. ?The audio quality is nothing to
write
home
about either. ?But HD radio has caused us to adapt. ?My wife & I
listen
to
web radio more than terrestrial radio now, since there are fewer
choices
on the dial.

Dave B.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
?Do you work for iBiquity, the NAB, or the HD Radio Alliance?

Is this directed at me?

Nope. ?None of them. ?I have no allegiances. ?I just get a kick out of
playing rope-a-dope with the HD haters like you. ?;-)

Now a question for you:

-Do you have a job?

-Do you have a life?

-Do you have a family...or a spouse...or are you simply obsessivbely
compulsively living in the wake of iBiquity and Struble? ?;-)- Hide
quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

I love all of this attention! Typical of IBOC boosters to launch a
series of personal attacks, when they have no counter-arguments. I've
heard it all - LOL!

I love this denial of reality! ?Typical of HD radio nutcakes to ignore
the
arguments put forth and the realies presented and launch a series of
cut/pastes when they can't engage in a discussion. ?Post a& run!

Oh wait, you're tending to that "blog" that thousands of bots read each
day!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Are those "bots" from Clear Channel, General Motros, Ford, DOJ, FCC,
etc, etc..? ?LOL!

No, these are people curious to know who the nutcake spammer is! ?LOL!

And I looked at your analyticals....most of your visitors are no from the
above names companies! ?LMFAO!

Also, I went to your web page...am I considered one of your followers?
?LOL!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My, my, I am making you pretty angry.

i think he's laughing out loud lol.....not angry. hes laughing at you.

Can you state a broadcaster that is being interfered with in their
protected
contours?

Again, if this is so prevailent, why isn't there a pile of listeners
complaints at the FCC?
Bob Savage WYSL for one.

#1...he is not a listener.

#2....why is he the only example that gets brought up when someone asks
about the so-called intereference.

#3.....WYSL is a badly designed facility that is attempting to service a
market from 25 miles out of town with, what, 500 watts?

but dont let the truth get in the way.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"No End in Sight in IBOC Interference Dispute Between Two AMs"

"Midwest Television, licensee of KFMB(AM), a Class B in San Diego, has
submitted a second interference complaint to the commission about
Kiertron, licensee of KBRT(AM), a Class D in Avalon, Calif.,

could it be because of the waiver it was granted in 1962?

this facility is faulty and was allowed to operate under a waiver

wysl the other station people often cite is another facility that was built
with faulty expectations as stated by jo jo

Watchin & Waitin' wrote:


"Midwest Television, licensee of KFMB(AM), a Class B in San Diego, has
submitted a second interference complaint to the commission about
Kiertron, licensee of KBRT(AM), a Class D in Avalon, Calif.,

could it be because of the waiver it was granted in 1962?

this facility is faulty and was allowed to operate under a waiver

wysl the other station people often cite is another facility that was built
with faulty expectations as stated by jo jo


1140 in Sacramento and 1160 in Salt Lake City kill 1150 in Los Angeles
during Critical Hours.

On Oct 27, 12:32�pm, "Watchin & Waitin'" wrote:
"HD Radio Farce" wrote in ...
On Oct 26, 1:45?pm, "Jo Jo Gunn" wrote:





"HD Radio Farce" wrote in
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On Oct 19, 1:15?pm, "Jo Jo Gunn" wrote:

"HD Radio Farce" wrote in
...
On Oct 17, 2:39?am, "Jo Jo Gunn" wrote:

"HD Radio Farce" wrote in
...
On Oct 13, 1:35?am, "Jo Jo Gunn" wrote:

Jo Jo Gunn wrote:

There has been no widespread interference complaints from the
public...and virtually all stations are protected within their
contours.

That doesn't mean there's no interference. ?It's amazing how the
proponents of HD Radio assume that receivers magically quit
receiving
a
signal once they leave a station's protected contour.

No, the FCC has made a judgement on how far and how long a stations
signal
would be protected.

That's the established standard. ?The days of clear-channels being
protected
nationwide are over.

Plus, to the average listener an HD carrier sounds like white
noise
&
they
think it's weak signal. ?Nobody thinks to complain about
interference.
They just move on to something else.

The large broadcast companies do engineering research and audience
research.
There has been no widespread complaints (if any at all), and there
is
no
indication that people "move onto something else".

I've heard on and on about how great the HD-2 formats are going to
be,
but
all I've observed is more lame cookie-cutter radio taking away the
reception that I once enjoyed.

THe formats on HD are quiite similar to what was on FM in the early
to
mid
60's. ?Music intensive, non-commercial, some simulcasting to improve
coverage, and mostly automated.

The audio quality is nothing to write home about either.

The public has had no complaints about HD audio quality. ?And like
the
qualities of MP3's, which is "nothing to write home about" either,
it's
"good enough" and the public isn't complaining.

But HD radio has caused us to adapt. ?My wife & I listen to web
radio
more
than terrestrial radio now, since there are fewer choices on the
dial.

I'd be interested in knowing where you are, and what station(s) you
can
no
longer listen too due to HD radio.

"Dave Barnett" wrote in message

...

Jo Jo Gunn wrote:

There has been no widespread interference complaints from the
public...and virtually all stations are protected within their
contours.

That doesn't mean there's no interference. ?It's amazing how the
proponents of HD Radio assume that receivers magically quit
receiving
a
signal once they leave a station's protected contour. ?Plus, to
the
average listener an HD carrier sounds like white noise & they
think
it's
weak signal. ?Nobody thinks to complain about interference. ?They
just
move on to something else.

I've heard on and on about how great the HD-2 formats are going to
be,
but
all I've observed is more lame cookie-cutter radio taking away the
reception that I once enjoyed. ?The audio quality is nothing to
write
home
about either. ?But HD radio has caused us to adapt. ?My wife & I
listen
to
web radio more than terrestrial radio now, since there are fewer
choices
on the dial.

Dave B.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
?Do you work for iBiquity, the NAB, or the HD Radio Alliance?

Is this directed at me?

Nope. ?None of them. ?I have no allegiances. ?I just get a kick out of
playing rope-a-dope with the HD haters like you. ?;-)

Now a question for you:

-Do you have a job?

-Do you have a life?

-Do you have a family...or a spouse...or are you simply obsessivbely
compulsively living in the wake of iBiquity and Struble? ?;-)- Hide
quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

I love all of this attention! Typical of IBOC boosters to launch a
series of personal attacks, when they have no counter-arguments. I've
heard it all - LOL!

I love this denial of reality! ?Typical of HD radio nutcakes to ignore
the
arguments put forth and the realies presented and launch a series of
cut/pastes when they can't engage in a discussion. ?Post a& run!

Oh wait, you're tending to that "blog" that thousands of bots read each
day!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Are those "bots" from Clear Channel, General Motros, Ford, DOJ, FCC,
etc, etc..? ?LOL!

No, these are people curious to know who the nutcake spammer is! ?LOL!

And I looked at your analyticals....most of your visitors are no from the
above names companies! ?LMFAO!

Also, I went to your web page...am I considered one of your followers?
?LOL!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My, my, I am making you pretty angry.

i think he's laughing out loud lol.....not angry. �hes laughing at you.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ha! Ha! We may have just helped to derail iBiquity's fraudulant IPO -
LOL!

"HD Radio Farce" wrote in message
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On Oct 27, 12:32?pm, "Watchin & Waitin'" wrote:
"HD Radio Farce" wrote in
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On Oct 26, 1:45?pm, "Jo Jo Gunn" wrote:





"HD Radio Farce" wrote in
...
On Oct 19, 1:15?pm, "Jo Jo Gunn" wrote:

"HD Radio Farce" wrote in
...
On Oct 17, 2:39?am, "Jo Jo Gunn" wrote:

"HD Radio Farce" wrote in
...
On Oct 13, 1:35?am, "Jo Jo Gunn" wrote:

Jo Jo Gunn wrote:

There has been no widespread interference complaints from the
public...and virtually all stations are protected within their
contours.

That doesn't mean there's no interference. ?It's amazing how the
proponents of HD Radio assume that receivers magically quit
receiving
a
signal once they leave a station's protected contour.

No, the FCC has made a judgement on how far and how long a
stations
signal
would be protected.

That's the established standard. ?The days of clear-channels being
protected
nationwide are over.

Plus, to the average listener an HD carrier sounds like white
noise
&
they
think it's weak signal. ?Nobody thinks to complain about
interference.
They just move on to something else.

The large broadcast companies do engineering research and audience
research.
There has been no widespread complaints (if any at all), and there
is
no
indication that people "move onto something else".

I've heard on and on about how great the HD-2 formats are going
to
be,
but
all I've observed is more lame cookie-cutter radio taking away
the
reception that I once enjoyed.

THe formats on HD are quiite similar to what was on FM in the
early
to
mid
60's. ?Music intensive, non-commercial, some simulcasting to
improve
coverage, and mostly automated.

The audio quality is nothing to write home about either.

The public has had no complaints about HD audio quality. ?And like
the
qualities of MP3's, which is "nothing to write home about" either,
it's
"good enough" and the public isn't complaining.

But HD radio has caused us to adapt. ?My wife & I listen to web
radio
more
than terrestrial radio now, since there are fewer choices on the
dial.

I'd be interested in knowing where you are, and what station(s)
you
can
no
longer listen too due to HD radio.

"Dave Barnett" wrote in message

...

Jo Jo Gunn wrote:

There has been no widespread interference complaints from the
public...and virtually all stations are protected within their
contours.

That doesn't mean there's no interference. ?It's amazing how the
proponents of HD Radio assume that receivers magically quit
receiving
a
signal once they leave a station's protected contour. ?Plus, to
the
average listener an HD carrier sounds like white noise & they
think
it's
weak signal. ?Nobody thinks to complain about interference.
?They
just
move on to something else.

I've heard on and on about how great the HD-2 formats are going
to
be,
but
all I've observed is more lame cookie-cutter radio taking away
the
reception that I once enjoyed. ?The audio quality is nothing to
write
home
about either. ?But HD radio has caused us to adapt. ?My wife & I
listen
to
web radio more than terrestrial radio now, since there are fewer
choices
on the dial.

Dave B.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
?Do you work for iBiquity, the NAB, or the HD Radio Alliance?

Is this directed at me?

Nope. ?None of them. ?I have no allegiances. ?I just get a kick out
of
playing rope-a-dope with the HD haters like you. ?;-)

Now a question for you:

-Do you have a job?

-Do you have a life?

-Do you have a family...or a spouse...or are you simply obsessivbely
compulsively living in the wake of iBiquity and Struble? ?;-)- Hide
quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

I love all of this attention! Typical of IBOC boosters to launch a
series of personal attacks, when they have no counter-arguments. I've
heard it all - LOL!

I love this denial of reality! ?Typical of HD radio nutcakes to ignore
the
arguments put forth and the realies presented and launch a series of
cut/pastes when they can't engage in a discussion. ?Post a& run!

Oh wait, you're tending to that "blog" that thousands of bots read
each
day!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Are those "bots" from Clear Channel, General Motros, Ford, DOJ, FCC,
etc, etc..? ?LOL!

No, these are people curious to know who the nutcake spammer is! ?LOL!

And I looked at your analyticals....most of your visitors are no from
the
above names companies! ?LMFAO!

Also, I went to your web page...am I considered one of your followers?
?LOL!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My, my, I am making you pretty angry.

i think he's laughing out loud lol.....not angry. ?hes laughing at you.-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ha! Ha! We may have just helped to derail iBiquity's fraudulant IPO -LOL!

cuz we know wall street is busy checking usenet and anonymous blogs lol!

On Oct 30, 1:52�am, "Watchin & Waitin'" wrote:
"HD Radio Farce" wrote in ...
On Oct 27, 12:32?pm, "Watchin & Waitin'" wrote:





"HD Radio Farce" wrote in
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On Oct 26, 1:45?pm, "Jo Jo Gunn" wrote:

"HD Radio Farce" wrote in
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On Oct 19, 1:15?pm, "Jo Jo Gunn" wrote:

"HD Radio Farce" wrote in
...
On Oct 17, 2:39?am, "Jo Jo Gunn" wrote:

"HD Radio Farce" wrote in
...
On Oct 13, 1:35?am, "Jo Jo Gunn" wrote:

Jo Jo Gunn wrote:

There has been no widespread interference complaints from the
public...and virtually all stations are protected within their
contours.

That doesn't mean there's no interference. ?It's amazing how the
proponents of HD Radio assume that receivers magically quit
receiving
a
signal once they leave a station's protected contour.

No, the FCC has made a judgement on how far and how long a
stations
signal
would be protected.

That's the established standard. ?The days of clear-channels being
protected
nationwide are over.

Plus, to the average listener an HD carrier sounds like white
noise
&
they
think it's weak signal. ?Nobody thinks to complain about
interference.
They just move on to something else.

The large broadcast companies do engineering research and audience
research.
There has been no widespread complaints (if any at all), and there
is
no
indication that people "move onto something else".

I've heard on and on about how great the HD-2 formats are going
to
be,
but
all I've observed is more lame cookie-cutter radio taking away
the
reception that I once enjoyed.

THe formats on HD are quiite similar to what was on FM in the
early
to
mid
60's. ?Music intensive, non-commercial, some simulcasting to
improve
coverage, and mostly automated.

The audio quality is nothing to write home about either.

The public has had no complaints about HD audio quality. ?And like
the
qualities of MP3's, which is "nothing to write home about" either,
it's
"good enough" and the public isn't complaining.

But HD radio has caused us to adapt. ?My wife & I listen to web
radio
more
than terrestrial radio now, since there are fewer choices on the
dial.

I'd be interested in knowing where you are, and what station(s)
you
can
no
longer listen too due to HD radio.

"Dave Barnett" wrote in message

...

Jo Jo Gunn wrote:

There has been no widespread interference complaints from the
public...and virtually all stations are protected within their
contours.

That doesn't mean there's no interference. ?It's amazing how the
proponents of HD Radio assume that receivers magically quit
receiving
a
signal once they leave a station's protected contour. ?Plus, to
the
average listener an HD carrier sounds like white noise & they
think
it's
weak signal. ?Nobody thinks to complain about interference.
?They
just
move on to something else.

I've heard on and on about how great the HD-2 formats are going
to
be,
but
all I've observed is more lame cookie-cutter radio taking away
the
reception that I once enjoyed. ?The audio quality is nothing to
write
home
about either. ?But HD radio has caused us to adapt. ?My wife & I
listen
to
web radio more than terrestrial radio now, since there are fewer
choices
on the dial.

Dave B.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
?Do you work for iBiquity, the NAB, or the HD Radio Alliance?

Is this directed at me?

Nope. ?None of them. ?I have no allegiances. ?I just get a kick out
of
playing rope-a-dope with the HD haters like you. ?;-)

Now a question for you:

-Do you have a job?

-Do you have a life?

-Do you have a family...or a spouse...or are you simply obsessivbely
compulsively living in the wake of iBiquity and Struble? ?;-)- Hide
quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

I love all of this attention! Typical of IBOC boosters to launch a
series of personal attacks, when they have no counter-arguments. I've
heard it all - LOL!

I love this denial of reality! ?Typical of HD radio nutcakes to ignore
the
arguments put forth and the realies presented and launch a series of
cut/pastes when they can't engage in a discussion. ?Post a& run!

Oh wait, you're tending to that "blog" that thousands of bots read
each
day!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Are those "bots" from Clear Channel, General Motros, Ford, DOJ, FCC,
etc, etc..? ?LOL!

No, these are people curious to know who the nutcake spammer is! ?LOL!

And I looked at your analyticals....most of your visitors are no from
the
above names companies! ?LMFAO!

Also, I went to your web page...am I considered one of your followers?
?LOL!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My, my, I am making you pretty angry.

i think he's laughing out loud lol.....not angry. ?hes laughing at you.-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Ha! Ha! We may have just helped to derail iBiquity's fraudulant IPO -LOL!

cuz we know wall street is busy checking usenet and anonymous blogs �lol!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yup, a number of hits from Wall Street firms. Funny, how Price
Waterhouse searched on "iBiquity IPO" just after this story was leaked
- wonder, if they are involved? Da!

"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
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On Oct 30, 1:52?am, "Watchin & Waitin'" wrote:
"HD Radio Farce" wrote in
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On Oct 27, 12:32?pm, "Watchin & Waitin'" wrote:





"HD Radio Farce" wrote in
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On Oct 26, 1:45?pm, "Jo Jo Gunn" wrote:

"HD Radio Farce" wrote in
...
On Oct 19, 1:15?pm, "Jo Jo Gunn" wrote:

"HD Radio Farce" wrote in
...
On Oct 17, 2:39?am, "Jo Jo Gunn" wrote:

"HD Radio Farce" wrote in
...
On Oct 13, 1:35?am, "Jo Jo Gunn" wrote:

Jo Jo Gunn wrote:

There has been no widespread interference complaints from the
public...and virtually all stations are protected within
their
contours.

That doesn't mean there's no interference. ?It's amazing how
the
proponents of HD Radio assume that receivers magically quit
receiving
a
signal once they leave a station's protected contour.

No, the FCC has made a judgement on how far and how long a
stations
signal
would be protected.

That's the established standard. ?The days of clear-channels
being
protected
nationwide are over.

Plus, to the average listener an HD carrier sounds like white
noise
&
they
think it's weak signal. ?Nobody thinks to complain about
interference.
They just move on to something else.

The large broadcast companies do engineering research and
audience
research.
There has been no widespread complaints (if any at all), and
there
is
no
indication that people "move onto something else".

I've heard on and on about how great the HD-2 formats are
going
to
be,
but
all I've observed is more lame cookie-cutter radio taking away
the
reception that I once enjoyed.

THe formats on HD are quiite similar to what was on FM in the
early
to
mid
60's. ?Music intensive, non-commercial, some simulcasting to
improve
coverage, and mostly automated.

The audio quality is nothing to write home about either.

The public has had no complaints about HD audio quality. ?And
like
the
qualities of MP3's, which is "nothing to write home about"
either,
it's
"good enough" and the public isn't complaining.

But HD radio has caused us to adapt. ?My wife & I listen to
web
radio
more
than terrestrial radio now, since there are fewer choices on
the
dial.

I'd be interested in knowing where you are, and what station(s)
you
can
no
longer listen too due to HD radio.

"Dave Barnett" wrote in message

...

Jo Jo Gunn wrote:

There has been no widespread interference complaints from the
public...and virtually all stations are protected within
their
contours.

That doesn't mean there's no interference. ?It's amazing how
the
proponents of HD Radio assume that receivers magically quit
receiving
a
signal once they leave a station's protected contour. ?Plus,
to
the
average listener an HD carrier sounds like white noise & they
think
it's
weak signal. ?Nobody thinks to complain about interference.
?They
just
move on to something else.

I've heard on and on about how great the HD-2 formats are
going
to
be,
but
all I've observed is more lame cookie-cutter radio taking away
the
reception that I once enjoyed. ?The audio quality is nothing
to
write
home
about either. ?But HD radio has caused us to adapt. ?My wife &
I
listen
to
web radio more than terrestrial radio now, since there are
fewer
choices
on the dial.

Dave B.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
?Do you work for iBiquity, the NAB, or the HD Radio Alliance?

Is this directed at me?

Nope. ?None of them. ?I have no allegiances. ?I just get a kick
out
of
playing rope-a-dope with the HD haters like you. ?;-)

Now a question for you:

-Do you have a job?

-Do you have a life?

-Do you have a family...or a spouse...or are you simply
obsessivbely
compulsively living in the wake of iBiquity and Struble? ?;-)-
Hide
quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

I love all of this attention! Typical of IBOC boosters to launch a
series of personal attacks, when they have no counter-arguments.
I've
heard it all - LOL!

I love this denial of reality! ?Typical of HD radio nutcakes to
ignore
the
arguments put forth and the realies presented and launch a series of
cut/pastes when they can't engage in a discussion. ?Post a& run!

Oh wait, you're tending to that "blog" that thousands of bots read
each
day!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Are those "bots" from Clear Channel, General Motros, Ford, DOJ, FCC,
etc, etc..? ?LOL!

No, these are people curious to know who the nutcake spammer is! ?LOL!

And I looked at your analyticals....most of your visitors are no from
the
above names companies! ?LMFAO!

Also, I went to your web page...am I considered one of your followers?
?LOL!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My, my, I am making you pretty angry.

i think he's laughing out loud lol.....not angry. ?hes laughing at you.-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Ha! Ha! We may have just helped to derail iBiquity's fraudulant
IPO -LOL!

cuz we know wall street is busy checking usenet and anonymous blogs ?lol!-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yup, a number of hits from Wall Street firms. Funny, how Price
Waterhouse searched on "iBiquity IPO" just after this story was leaked
- wonder, if they are involved? Da!

Like the others they want to see who the HD nutcake is.

Once they see your anonymous opinions...I'm sure they realize that they are
from a disgruntled and mentally unstable person.

Ta-Da!

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"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

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"HD Radio Farce" wrote in
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"HD Radio Farce" wrote in
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On Oct 19, 1:15?pm, "Jo Jo Gunn" wrote:

"HD Radio Farce" wrote in
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On Oct 17, 2:39?am, "Jo Jo Gunn" wrote:

"HD Radio Farce" wrote in
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On Oct 13, 1:35?am, "Jo Jo Gunn" wrote:

Jo Jo Gunn wrote:

There has been no widespread interference complaints from the
public...and virtually all stations are protected within
their
contours.

That doesn't mean there's no interference. ?It's amazing how
the
proponents of HD Radio assume that receivers magically quit
receiving
a
signal once they leave a station's protected contour.

No, the FCC has made a judgement on how far and how long a
stations
signal
would be protected.

That's the established standard. ?The days of clear-channels
being
protected
nationwide are over.

Plus, to the average listener an HD carrier sounds like white
noise
&
they
think it's weak signal. ?Nobody thinks to complain about
interference.
They just move on to something else.

The large broadcast companies do engineering research and
audience
research.
There has been no widespread complaints (if any at all), and
there
is
no
indication that people "move onto something else".

I've heard on and on about how great the HD-2 formats are
going
to
be,
but
all I've observed is more lame cookie-cutter radio taking away
the
reception that I once enjoyed.

THe formats on HD are quiite similar to what was on FM in the
early
to
mid
60's. ?Music intensive, non-commercial, some simulcasting to
improve
coverage, and mostly automated.

The audio quality is nothing to write home about either.

The public has had no complaints about HD audio quality. ?And
like
the
qualities of MP3's, which is "nothing to write home about"
either,
it's
"good enough" and the public isn't complaining.

But HD radio has caused us to adapt. ?My wife & I listen to
web
radio
more
than terrestrial radio now, since there are fewer choices on
the
dial.

I'd be interested in knowing where you are, and what station(s)
you
can
no
longer listen too due to HD radio.

"Dave Barnett" wrote in message

...

Jo Jo Gunn wrote:

There has been no widespread interference complaints from the
public...and virtually all stations are protected within
their
contours.

That doesn't mean there's no interference. ?It's amazing how
the
proponents of HD Radio assume that receivers magically quit
receiving
a
signal once they leave a station's protected contour. ?Plus,
to
the
average listener an HD carrier sounds like white noise & they
think
it's
weak signal. ?Nobody thinks to complain about interference.
?They
just
move on to something else.

I've heard on and on about how great the HD-2 formats are
going
to
be,
but
all I've observed is more lame cookie-cutter radio taking away
the
reception that I once enjoyed. ?The audio quality is nothing
to
write
home
about either. ?But HD radio has caused us to adapt. ?My wife &
I
listen
to
web radio more than terrestrial radio now, since there are
fewer
choices
on the dial.

Dave B.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
?Do you work for iBiquity, the NAB, or the HD Radio Alliance?

Is this directed at me?

Nope. ?None of them. ?I have no allegiances. ?I just get a kick
out
of
playing rope-a-dope with the HD haters like you. ?;-)

Now a question for you:

-Do you have a job?

-Do you have a life?

-Do you have a family...or a spouse...or are you simply
obsessivbely
compulsively living in the wake of iBiquity and Struble? ?;-)-
Hide
quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

I love all of this attention! Typical of IBOC boosters to launch a
series of personal attacks, when they have no counter-arguments.
I've
heard it all - LOL!

I love this denial of reality! ?Typical of HD radio nutcakes to
ignore
the
arguments put forth and the realies presented and launch a series of
cut/pastes when they can't engage in a discussion. ?Post a& run!

Oh wait, you're tending to that "blog" that thousands of bots read
each
day!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Are those "bots" from Clear Channel, General Motros, Ford, DOJ, FCC,
etc, etc..? ?LOL!

No, these are people curious to know who the nutcake spammer is! ?LOL!

And I looked at your analyticals....most of your visitors are no from
the
above names companies! ?LMFAO!

Also, I went to your web page...am I considered one of your followers?
?LOL!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My, my, I am making you pretty angry.

i think he's laughing out loud lol.....not angry. ?hes laughing at you.-
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- Show quoted text -
Ha! Ha! We may have just helped to derail iBiquity's fraudulant
IPO -LOL!

cuz we know wall street is busy checking usenet and anonymous blogs ?lol!-
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- Show quoted text -
Yup, a number of hits from Wall Street firms. Funny, how Price
Waterhouse searched on "iBiquity IPO" just after this story was leaked
- wonder, if they are involved? Da!

Like the others they want to see who the HD nutcake is.

Once they see your anonymous opinions...I'm sure they realize that they are
from a disgruntled and mentally unstable person.

Ta-Da!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What I fund amusing, is that everytime I post, you counter-post with
nothing but personal attacks. Your lack of understanding of technology
is readily apparent.

On Oct 30, 1:52�am, "Watchin & Waitin'" wrote:
"HD Radio Farce" wrote in ...
On Oct 27, 12:32?pm, "Watchin & Waitin'" wrote:





"HD Radio Farce" wrote in
...
On Oct 26, 1:45?pm, "Jo Jo Gunn" wrote:

"HD Radio Farce" wrote in
...
On Oct 19, 1:15?pm, "Jo Jo Gunn" wrote:

"HD Radio Farce" wrote in
...
On Oct 17, 2:39?am, "Jo Jo Gunn" wrote:

"HD Radio Farce" wrote in
...
On Oct 13, 1:35?am, "Jo Jo Gunn" wrote:

Jo Jo Gunn wrote:

There has been no widespread interference complaints from the
public...and virtually all stations are protected within their
contours.

That doesn't mean there's no interference. ?It's amazing how the
proponents of HD Radio assume that receivers magically quit
receiving
a
signal once they leave a station's protected contour.

No, the FCC has made a judgement on how far and how long a
stations
signal
would be protected.

That's the established standard. ?The days of clear-channels being
protected
nationwide are over.

Plus, to the average listener an HD carrier sounds like white
noise
&
they
think it's weak signal. ?Nobody thinks to complain about
interference.
They just move on to something else.

The large broadcast companies do engineering research and audience
research.
There has been no widespread complaints (if any at all), and there
is
no
indication that people "move onto something else".

I've heard on and on about how great the HD-2 formats are going
to
be,
but
all I've observed is more lame cookie-cutter radio taking away
the
reception that I once enjoyed.

THe formats on HD are quiite similar to what was on FM in the
early
to
mid
60's. ?Music intensive, non-commercial, some simulcasting to
improve
coverage, and mostly automated.

The audio quality is nothing to write home about either.

The public has had no complaints about HD audio quality. ?And like
the
qualities of MP3's, which is "nothing to write home about" either,
it's
"good enough" and the public isn't complaining.

But HD radio has caused us to adapt. ?My wife & I listen to web
radio
more
than terrestrial radio now, since there are fewer choices on the
dial.

I'd be interested in knowing where you are, and what station(s)
you
can
no
longer listen too due to HD radio.

"Dave Barnett" wrote in message

...

Jo Jo Gunn wrote:

There has been no widespread interference complaints from the
public...and virtually all stations are protected within their
contours.

That doesn't mean there's no interference. ?It's amazing how the
proponents of HD Radio assume that receivers magically quit
receiving
a
signal once they leave a station's protected contour. ?Plus, to
the
average listener an HD carrier sounds like white noise & they
think
it's
weak signal. ?Nobody thinks to complain about interference.
?They
just
move on to something else.

I've heard on and on about how great the HD-2 formats are going
to
be,
but
all I've observed is more lame cookie-cutter radio taking away
the
reception that I once enjoyed. ?The audio quality is nothing to
write
home
about either. ?But HD radio has caused us to adapt. ?My wife & I
listen
to
web radio more than terrestrial radio now, since there are fewer
choices
on the dial.

Dave B.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
?Do you work for iBiquity, the NAB, or the HD Radio Alliance?

Is this directed at me?

Nope. ?None of them. ?I have no allegiances. ?I just get a kick out
of
playing rope-a-dope with the HD haters like you. ?;-)

Now a question for you:

-Do you have a job?

-Do you have a life?

-Do you have a family...or a spouse...or are you simply obsessivbely
compulsively living in the wake of iBiquity and Struble? ?;-)- Hide
quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

I love all of this attention! Typical of IBOC boosters to launch a
series of personal attacks, when they have no counter-arguments. I've
heard it all - LOL!

I love this denial of reality! ?Typical of HD radio nutcakes to ignore
the
arguments put forth and the realies presented and launch a series of
cut/pastes when they can't engage in a discussion. ?Post a& run!

Oh wait, you're tending to that "blog" that thousands of bots read
each
day!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Are those "bots" from Clear Channel, General Motros, Ford, DOJ, FCC,
etc, etc..? ?LOL!

No, these are people curious to know who the nutcake spammer is! ?LOL!

And I looked at your analyticals....most of your visitors are no from
the
above names companies! ?LMFAO!

Also, I went to your web page...am I considered one of your followers?
?LOL!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My, my, I am making you pretty angry.

i think he's laughing out loud lol.....not angry. ?hes laughing at you.-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Ha! Ha! We may have just helped to derail iBiquity's fraudulant IPO -LOL!

cuz we know wall street is busy checking usenet and anonymous blogs �lol!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Apparently, they are, including most of the other major firms,
including iBiquity investor JP Morgan.

HD Radio Farce wrote:
What I fund amusing, is that everytime I post, you counter-post with
nothing but personal attacks. Your lack of understanding of technology
is readily apparent.

*Learn to snip*

It would be nice to see an HD 'build your own' from Radio Shack.
Never gonna happen.
Understanding a technology and *wanting* it are two very different things.
Back to my tubes.

Bill Baka