On 3/25/2010 9:54 AM, BDK wrote:
In article 6ea33013-6657-4dc1-86da-
, says...
On Mar 23, 10:34 am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/22/2010 11:02 PM, wy wrote:





On Mar 22, 9:46 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/22/2010 9:25 PM, wy wrote:

On Mar 22, 8:54 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/22/2010 8:26 PM, bpnjensen wrote:

On Mar 22, 5:20 pm, Paul Briskette wrote:
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:26:42 -0600, vict0r wrote:
Posted: March 22nd, 2010 12:00 PM ET

Washington (CNN) - A majority of Americans have a dim view of the
sweeping health care bill passed by the House, saying it gives
Washington too much clout and won't do much to reduce their own health
care costs or federal deficits, according to a new poll released Monday.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...mericans-dont-

like-health-care-bill/?fbid=SrzW3C7j_y

That means the bill is very good. The way politics work is that "Nobody
won".

Look it up!

This bill will help my family considerably. My %^$%#^%$ insurance
company already has been raising my rates constantly, and trying to
give us the runaround. This thing, as odd as it is, will make a
difference in several important salient health-related details, cost
not being a big deal among them.

Bruce

You can fire them, up until Obama signs it into law. Then you are
forced to have insurance or accept government health care.

Too bad, you're forced by Obama to pay someone you hate.

You make it sound like you'll never ever, ever never need health care
for as long as you live. Which is an impossibility, of course. So
just cough up the cash and stop being an idiot about it.

Never...

I will go to Obama-land Prison first.

Where you will pay for food, water, sewer, Cable, clothes and electric
and room and board....

So you're a socialist.

NO... it makes me stubborn, and principled, and expensive for tax payers
like you.

Do you drive without car insurance, or do your principles end there?


Maybe he's like my neighbors down the road. They paid cash for their
house, almost $200K in 1994, and never got insurance. In early 2007, it
burned to the ground, due to an electrical problem in the attic, they
lost 50 years of family pics and everything else they owned. They said
on TV, =3FWe never thought we would need it!=3F. Morons. How cheap do you
have to be to not have homeowner=3Fs insurance? I went by the empty lot a
few minutes ago, and there they were, sitting in their car, like they
usually are. There=3Fs nothing there, so I have no idea why they do this.
Doesn=3Ft matter how bad the weather is, most days, they are sitting there
in the car, or on nicer days, folding chairs.


It appears that they are finally going to start rebuilding soon, as
there are stakes that were put in recently.

And all this changed your life how?


I've only had insurance on one house, my first house that I stupidly got
a loan to purchase.... I never made that mistake again. I didn't need
insurance on a house "I" lived in, I am a very careful person, but if
you're an idiot.... you may want it. Why would I want to take on risk
of your careless lifestyle, also there are people that burn their house
down to get the money, why do I want to be in "business" with that kind.
Do you think you can win with those people?


I never had a fire or any other disaster that was able to destroy the
homes I bought.

Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:

I've only had insurance on one house, my first house that I stupidly got
a loan to purchase.... I never made that mistake again. I didn't need
insurance on a house "I" lived in, I am a very careful person, but if
you're an idiot.... you may want it.

Well, IMHO you are very lucky, very naive or both.

As the old saying goes: "Stuff happens".

A defective appliance (with a counterfeit UL seal), a good appliance
that legitimately fails, lightning. Or like my neighbor across the
street -- they were not at home, they had baked goods on a plastic
cutting board on the stove, the dog jumped up to try and get the food,
accidentally turned on the stove and caused severe fire damage to the
home. Furthermore, had the fire been worse than it was and had it been
windy, the flames could have jumped to the house of an innocent neighbor
next door -- who would hopefully have insurance.

There are literally a million -unforeseen- things that could happen that
are beyond -your- control. You can be the most careful person in the
world, but that won't stop a runaway car from smashing into your house
nor will it keep lightning from striking. I don't know what state you
live in, but how about tornadoes, floods, hurricanes, heavy snow that
collapses your roof? You do not have to be an "idiot" to need insurance.
Quite the opposite, as a matter of fact. You would be an idiot to think
that you -don't- need insurance, either that or be a heck of a gambler.

I never had a fire or any other disaster that was able to destroy the
homes I bought.

All that proves is that you were very lucky. For your sake, I hope your
luck continues. But I STILL think you are being incredibly naive and are
taking a big gamble.

On 3/25/2010 12:44 AM, bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 24, 7:20 pm, Wexford wrote:
On Mar 23, 11:07 am, bpnjensen wrote:





On Mar 23, 7:31 am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-

wrote:
On 3/22/2010 11:12 PM, bpnjensen wrote:

On Mar 22, 5:54 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/22/2010 8:26 PM, bpnjensen wrote:

On Mar 22, 5:20 pm, Paul Briskette wrote:
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:26:42 -0600, vict0r wrote:
Posted: March 22nd, 2010 12:00 PM ET

Washington (CNN) - A majority of Americans have a dim view of the
sweeping health care bill passed by the House, saying it gives
Washington too much clout and won't do much to reduce their own health
care costs or federal deficits, according to a new poll released Monday.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...mericans-dont-

like-health-care-bill/?fbid=SrzW3C7j_y

That means the bill is very good. The way politics work is that "Nobody
won".

Look it up!

This bill will help my family considerably. My %^$%#^%$ insurance
company already has been raising my rates constantly, and trying to
give us the runaround. This thing, as odd as it is, will make a
difference in several important salient health-related details, cost
not being a big deal among them.

Bruce

You can fire them, up until Obama signs it into law. Then you are
forced to have insurance or accept government health care.

Too bad, you're forced by Obama to pay someone you hate.

Right now, I have no choice *anyway* - if I don't pay installments to
some bloodsucking insurer, I run the risk of my family - both of whom
have highly treatable preexisting conditions - dying needlessly. If
Obama and I really had our way, the government-run single payer option
- used VERY successfully by numerous more civilized nations around the
world - would obviate the need to pay any private for-profit company
whose sole goal is to milk me out of money and support me as little as
possible in my time of need.

You go to them they don't come to you. You get out your wallet freely,
but Obama wants to hold a gun to your head.

I don't especially care if you like the government option or not - the
proof is in the pudding, and the substantial majority of people I have

If you want to live in France/Canada.... then just do it.

spoken with from those nations have good cause to believe that their
systems work well. Many cannot believe the barbaric system we are
still stuck with here in the States.

I have an English Girlfriend..... they don't like or get good health
care, her girlfriend died 20 years ago, killed by the National health
care who didn't tell her she had stomach cancer until it was too
late.... she came here to America and the doctors said that, had she
only come here earlier, it was treatable.

That's your good government care.

Nice and pretty, and her name was Chris.

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Well, that's one. To set and match it - my Dad, depending on US
medicine, did not know he had stomach cancer until it was too late,
thanks to 40 years of inept Americam medicine. Another - my Mom had
cancer for three years, died of it, and the doctors never did figure
out what kind of cancer it was! So don't give me any bull**** about
the British medical system failing its patients - the US fails as
often if not more, and the life expectancy in the UK, despite what can
only be described as a horrible diet, is a year longer than the US.
Same with about 30 other nations who all have socialized medicine.

We ourselves spend a good deal of time wondering if my wife's asthma
is going to be effectively treated next month or year. Something they
do not fear in Britain.

I have plenty of stories from Brits who would not trade their system
for the third-world system we have in the States. People with chronic
diseases and disabilities, people who have immediate problems in their
homes, get medical attention when they need it, day or night, at their
homes, and they pay not a penny OOP. They have plenty of $$$ for
travel, hobbies, nice homes and fun.

Bruce

I happen to know a fellow (a co-worker) who took a job in one of
offices in England. He's a former Army officer, a hard-over right
winger. He had a heart attack while in England and gave himself over
to the British medical system. He never had a bad word to say about
it. His treatment was good, the doctors and nurses caring and
professional and the hospital -- if a bit old -- was clean. It was
also cheap and he didn't have to bicker with an insurance company
about what was covered.

I hear stories like this one from a half-dozen Brits I know - but as I
said, I apparently know the wrong ones - you know, the ones who are
HAPPY with their system.


Obviously getting descent health care in England is a crap shoot!

What a great F*cking System.

..
So you're a socialist.
..
The exact opposite...he's principled.

On 3/25/2010 10:25 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:

I've only had insurance on one house, my first house that I stupidly got
a loan to purchase.... I never made that mistake again. I didn't need
insurance on a house "I" lived in, I am a very careful person, but if
you're an idiot.... you may want it.

Well, IMHO you are very lucky, very naive or both.

As the old saying goes: "Stuff happens".

A defective appliance (with a counterfeit UL seal), a good appliance
that legitimately fails, lightning. Or like my neighbor across the
street -- they were not at home, they had baked goods on a plastic
cutting board on the stove, the dog jumped up to try and get the food,

I'm not like your neighbor.....

accidentally turned on the stove and caused severe fire damage to the
home. Furthermore, had the fire been worse than it was and had it been
windy, the flames could have jumped to the house of an innocent neighbor
next door -- who would hopefully have insurance.

Why I buy my houses with different criteria than you or your neighbor.


There are literally a million -unforeseen- things that could happen that

And yet I have never had a fire of any kind in my houses in over 35
years of ownership....


are beyond -your- control. You can be the most careful person in the
world, but that won't stop a runaway car from smashing into your house

Don't buy at the end of a street.

nor will it keep lightning from striking. I don't know what state you

Lived in several, never had lightening hit my house, it's NOT the
tallest structure around.

live in, but how about tornadoes, floods, hurricanes, heavy snow that

Been there, I bought at the top of a hill, in an area where tornadoes
typically went around. 15 years there, never had a tornado near the house.

collapses your roof? You do not have to be an "idiot" to need insurance.

I built the Barn and the roof was 2x6 truss.... the house was built
well enough with enough pitch.

Quite the opposite, as a matter of fact. You would be an idiot to think
that you -don't- need insurance, either that or be a heck of a gambler.

I don't gamble, it's not very entertaining, I never bet on sports or any
game of chance.... well unless I am really really bored.


I never had a fire or any other disaster that was able to destroy the
homes I bought.

All that proves is that you were very lucky. For your sake, I hope your
luck continues. But I STILL think you are being incredibly naive and are
taking a big gamble.

I was in an earth quake.... I was renting and happy not to own anything
in that area. I have minimal belongings so losing my "stuff" is not an
issue.


**** happens, but it usually happens to people that haven't learned
anything.

PACCAR has a new engine factory in Columbus,Mississippi.Diesel engines
for Peterbilt and Kenworth and DAF trucks.Because PACCAR wants the
PACCAR name/brand on those diesel engines.

Unlike what Patrick Swayze said in that movie, I Say,,, PACCAR!
cuhulin

I have home insurance too.

That B HO ButtKisser who lives catty corner across the street from
doggy's couch,,, I told him a couple of years ago one or more of those
tall trees over there are someday going to fall over on his house.I see
that those trees are leaning closer and closer and closer,,,,,, I bet he
doesn't have insurance on that house either.

About a year ago, I built a wooden fence along both sides of my yard, to
keep those B HO ButtKissers from driving and parking on my yard.That
B HO ButtKisser across the street came over here when I was building
my fence.He put his damn mitts on my fence, he said,,, The first strong
wind that comes along is going to blow that fence down!!!
2'' by 4'' wood posts I hammered into the ground with my sledge hammer
and two rows of 1'' by 6'' boards (it is all pressurized wood) I nailed
to those posts,, and he (''he'') told me, The first strong wind that
comes along is going to blow that fence down!!!

Looka here,, if those trees over there DO fall over on his house,,, do
y'all think I will care???
I WILL NOT CARE AT ALL!
cuhulin

"Beam Me Up Scotty" wrote in
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On 3/25/2010 10:25 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:

There are literally a million -unforeseen- things that could happen that

And yet I have never had a fire of any kind in my houses in over 35
years of ownership....

The saying goes: "There's a first time for everything."

are beyond -your- control. You can be the most careful person in the
world, but that won't stop a runaway car from smashing into your house

Don't buy at the end of a street.

Doesn't matter whether you are at the end of a street or not. I've
personally seen people running from the cops crash their cars into homes in
the middle of the street. This can happen ANYWHERE.

nor will it keep lightning from striking. I don't know what state you

Lived in several, never had lightening hit my house, it's NOT the
tallest structure around.

The tallest structure thing is a myth. It may make some degree of difference
what the height of an object is, but it's not a given. Take a golfer out on
a course that gets hit when there are tall trees nearby.

live in, but how about tornadoes, floods, hurricanes, heavy snow that

Been there, I bought at the top of a hill, in an area where tornadoes
typically went around. 15 years there, never had a tornado near the
house.


They didn't USED TO have tornados in the LA basin, either.. but recently
there have been some. In Portland, we had never had one in my lifetime until
1981, they just didn't happen there (hilly area, usually prone to strong
east or west winds), but we had one nonetheless.

Nobody is without the chance of a disaster happening to them. It's not a
safe planet. Insurance is a good idea, where possible and feasible.

On Mar 25, 5:56*pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/25/2010 7:27 PM, BDK wrote:





In article fa86fc24-128d-4d50-8ba0-a6a4eea55d99
@w39g2000prd.googlegroups.com, says...
On Mar 25, 6:41 am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/25/2010 8:30 AM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:

Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:

I have no car but I drive others cars, and I can legally ride a
motorcycle without any insurance.

Pardon me for asking, but why don't you have a car? Economic reasons or
other reasons?

Because I want to F*ck your Socialist Society as much as possible....
The cost is taxed and taxed again, SO the government is taking a big hit
with each person that quits driving. * I have a bicycle and live close
to most anything I want.

For better or for worse, our society is pretty much based on the
automobile (generally speaking, lousy public transportation, spread out
suburban areas, etc).

Yes I know And I was OK with it 30 years ago but then I had kids and
started fighting the Government encroachment into my family and my life
and I've been at it ever since. * I'm chuckling at people just catching
on to the fact that your society has become a Socialist society.

Talk about asleep at the wheel, Socialism has been growing in teh
education system since I was a student and I have seen what 40 years of
indoctrination has done to the Nation. *So I take every chance I can get
to F*ck the government out of a dime. *It seems so much better than
letting things come to a point where civil war breaks out and people
start shooting at each other.

I could be out spending money and enjoying Society, but that would be
less than living up to my commitment to freedom and a bit hypocritical,
so I give up some things to try to make a better life for my children,
freedom is always better than planned indoctrination and tax slavery.

Wow, what a bitter, angry person you must be. *You want to make life
better for your children, and I do not fault you for that, but such an
attitude passed onto them will fill their lives with a lot of
anguish. *Oh well, they're your kids - do with them what you will.

The idea of his being a parent scares the hell out of me. I bet those
kids are real basket cases.

I feel sorry for you kids!

You must be some worthless parents, I'd die for my kids if need be. *A
little scrapping for them to have freedom is nothing, to me it's just
like any other challenge..... * you can run and hide or hit the ground
running and meet it head on.

Did you teach your kids to roll over and play dead like you every time
government wants to screw them?

Do you hear voices inside your head?!?!? Or screws rattling around?

I think we need to contact Child Protective Services...

On Mar 25, 6:48*pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/25/2010 9:54 AM, BDK wrote:





In article 6ea33013-6657-4dc1-86da-
, says...
On Mar 23, 10:34 am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/22/2010 11:02 PM, wy wrote:

On Mar 22, 9:46 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/22/2010 9:25 PM, wy wrote:

On Mar 22, 8:54 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/22/2010 8:26 PM, bpnjensen wrote:

On Mar 22, 5:20 pm, Paul Briskette wrote:
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:26:42 -0600, vict0r wrote:
Posted: March 22nd, 2010 12:00 PM ET

Washington (CNN) - A majority of Americans have a dim view of the
sweeping health care bill passed by the House, saying it gives
Washington too much clout and won't do much to reduce their own health
care costs or federal deficits, according to a new poll released Monday.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...mericans-dont-

like-health-care-bill/?fbid=SrzW3C7j_y

That means the bill is very good. The way politics work is that "Nobody
won".

Look it up!

This bill will help my family considerably. *My %^$%#^%$ insurance
company already has been raising my rates constantly, and trying to
give us the runaround. *This thing, as odd as it is, will make a
difference in several important salient health-related details, cost
not being a big deal among them.

Bruce

You can fire them, up until Obama signs it into law. *Then you are
forced to have insurance or accept government health care.

Too bad, you're forced by Obama to pay someone you hate.

You make it sound like you'll never ever, ever never need health care
for as long as you live. *Which is an impossibility, of course. *So
just cough up the cash and stop being an idiot about it.

Never...

I will go to Obama-land Prison first.

Where you will pay for food, water, sewer, Cable, clothes and electric
and room and board....

So you're a socialist.

NO... it makes me stubborn, and principled, and expensive for tax payers
like you.

Do you drive without car insurance, or do your principles end there?

Maybe he's like my neighbors down the road. They paid cash for their
house, almost $200K in 1994, and never got insurance. In early 2007, it
burned to the ground, due to an electrical problem in the attic, they
lost 50 years of family pics and everything else they owned. They said
on TV, =3FWe never thought we would need it!=3F. Morons. How cheap do you
have to be to not have homeowner=3Fs insurance? I went by the empty lot a
few minutes ago, and there they were, sitting in their car, like they
usually are. There=3Fs nothing there, so I have no idea why they do this.
Doesn=3Ft matter how bad the weather is, most days, they are sitting there
in the car, or on nicer days, folding chairs.

It appears that they are finally going to start rebuilding soon, as
there are stakes that were put in recently.

And all this changed your life how?

I've only had insurance on one house, my first house that I stupidly got
a loan to purchase.... *I never made that mistake again. *I didn't need
insurance on a house "I" lived in, I am a very careful person, but if
you're an idiot.... *you may want it. Why would I want to take on risk
of your careless lifestyle, also there are people that burn their house
down to get the money, why do I want to be in "business" with that kind.
*Do you think you can win with those people?

I never had a fire or any other disaster that was able to destroy the
homes I bought.

There's a thunderstorm right around the corner with your name and
address on it...