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dave August 11th 10 01:21 PM

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wrote:
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Which BBC? Home Service? World Service? BBC America?

RHF August 11th 10 02:14 PM

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On Aug 11, 5:39*am, (David Kaye) wrote:
- - RHF wrote:
- - Maybe around 25% of the people in the SF Bay
- - Area that I retired with in the late 1990s are now
- - 'former' Californians.

- Don't let the door slam on your way out. *I'd be very happy if more
retirees
- left California, for several reasons: *(1) fewer people means less
congestion
- on the roads, on public transit, and in line at Safeway; (2) fewer
people
- means less wear and tear on the infrastructure, (3) fewer retired
people means
- more working people and a big savings in Medi-Cal payouts. *
-
- In short, everybody wins!

NO - More Current Documented US Citizen
California Tax Payers leave . . .

-and- More Un-Documented {Non-Tax-Paying}
Illegal Aliens come and the ever increasing Tax
Burden on the fewer remaining US Citizen Tax
Payers increases . . .

= Result=
Less Real Tax Payers {Tax Income}
+ plus +
Much/More People {Tax Spending}

That is NOT 'win-win' ~ RHF

[email protected] August 11th 10 02:58 PM

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Paul Gallo said, We have so many things to do here and so little time to
do them, I feel like Charley Rangel.
And there was an audio clip of Charley Rangel exclaiming,,,
Well, at the end of the day!!!
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cuhulin


tony sayer August 11th 10 07:23 PM

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In article , David Kaye
scribeth thus
RHF wrote:

Maybe around 25% of the people in the SF Bay
Area that I retired with in the late 1990s are now
'former' Californians.


Don't let the door slam on your way out. I'd be very happy if more retirees
left California, for several reasons: (1) fewer people means less congestion
on the roads, on public transit, and in line at Safeway; (2) fewer people
means less wear and tear on the infrastructure, (3) fewer retired people means
more working people and a big savings in Medi-Cal payouts.

In short, everybody wins!



And err, one day in years to come .. where are you gonna go Bro;?...
--
Tony Sayer




David Kaye August 11th 10 08:17 PM

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RHF wrote:

NO - More Current Documented US Citizen
California Tax Payers leave . . .

-and- More Un-Documented {Non-Tax-Paying}
Illegal Aliens come and the ever increasing Tax
Burden on the fewer remaining US Citizen Tax
Payers increases . . .


According to Wikipedia: "The IRS estimates that about 6 million unauthorized
immigrants file individual income tax returns each year.[3] Research reviewed
by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office indicates that between 50
percent and 75 percent of unauthorized immigrants pay federal, state, and
local taxes.[3] Illegal immigrants are estimated to pay in about $7 billion
per year into Social Security.[15]"

URL:
http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Economic_impact_of_illegal_immigrants_in_the_Unite d_States

If illegal immigration were such a big problem, the federal government would
have stopped it during any Republican or Democratic regime since the 1940s
when it first rose to public attention.


RHF August 11th 10 09:37 PM

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On Aug 11, 12:17*pm, (David Kaye) wrote:
RHF wrote:
NO - More Current Documented US Citizen
California Tax Payers leave . . .


-and- More Un-Documented {Non-Tax-Paying}
Illegal Aliens come and the ever increasing Tax
Burden on the fewer remaining US Citizen Tax
Payers increases . . .


- According to Wikipedia: *"The IRS estimates that about 6 million
unauthorized
- immigrants file individual income tax returns each year.[3] Research
reviewed
- by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office indicates that
between 50
- percent and 75 percent of unauthorized immigrants pay federal,
state, and
- local taxes.

=IF= these people are Illegal : Where Did these
Un-Documented Illegals get their [Forged] Papers to Work ?

=IF=IF= An Illegal has [Forged] Papers to Work
they could be an poor 'economic' immigrants from
south of the Border just looking for work
-or- an Islamic-Terrorist planning the Next 9/11.

- [3] Illegal immigrants are estimated to pay in about $7 billion
- per year into Social Security.[15]" *

Yeah by falsely using an American Citizens SS#.

-again- Where Did these Un-Documented Illegals
get their [Forged] Work Papers ?

- URL: *http://en.wikipedia.
- org/wiki/Economic_impact_of_illegal_immigrants_in_the_Unite d_States
-
- If illegal immigration were such a big problem, the federal
government would
- have stopped it during any Republican or Democratic regime since the
1940s
- when it first rose to public attention.

Sort of like the Feds stopper Bootlegging
during Prohibition . . .

Hey the Feds actually did by repealing it
and making it legal. ;-}

So that is why Prez Obama wants Amnesty
for the millions of Illegals.

Texas Governor Asks Prez Obama for US Troops
to Secure the US Borders and Protecting the
American Homeland from the Mexican Narco-Terrorists
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...d206775be24a9c

To Actively Enforce US Laws and Defend the USA
and Protect American Citizens Prez Obama must
use the US Military to Secure the US Border with
Mexico and Search-Out and Destroy the
Narco-Terrorists and their American Allies
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...6ab524afe91339

John Higdon[_2_] August 11th 10 11:29 PM

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In article ,
(David Kaye) wrote:

According to Wikipedia: "The IRS estimates that about 6 million unauthorized
immigrants file individual income tax returns each year.[3] Research reviewed
by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office indicates that between 50
percent and 75 percent of unauthorized immigrants pay federal, state, and
local taxes.[3] Illegal immigrants are estimated to pay in about $7 billion
per year into Social Security.[15]"


How do they file returns without SSNs? This sounds bogus.

If illegal immigration were such a big problem, the federal government would
have stopped it during any Republican or Democratic regime since the 1940s
when it first rose to public attention.


Hmm...the same thing could be said about Global Warming (tm). All we do
is talk about both issues and do absolutely nothing that has any glimmer
of effectiveness.

--
John Higdon
+1 408 ANdrews 6-4400
AT&T-Free At Last

SMS August 12th 10 12:22 AM

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On 11/08/10 12:17 PM, David Kaye wrote:
wrote:

NO - More Current Documented US Citizen
California Tax Payers leave . . .

-and- More Un-Documented {Non-Tax-Paying}
Illegal Aliens come and the ever increasing Tax
Burden on the fewer remaining US Citizen Tax
Payers increases . . .


According to Wikipedia: "The IRS estimates that about 6 million unauthorized
immigrants file individual income tax returns each year.[3] Research reviewed
by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office indicates that between 50
percent and 75 percent of unauthorized immigrants pay federal, state, and
local taxes.[3] Illegal immigrants are estimated to pay in about $7 billion
per year into Social Security.[15]"


Automatic F due to using Wikipedia as a reference.

Actually the illegal alien burden is mainly on the states who have to
comply with all the unfunded federal mandates.

I don't know about income tax, but the illegals are big contributors to
Social Security and Medicare even though they are ineligible for
benefits. "http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/05/business/05immigration.html".

Brenda Ann[_2_] August 12th 10 01:24 AM

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"John Higdon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
(David Kaye) wrote:

According to Wikipedia: "The IRS estimates that about 6 million
unauthorized
immigrants file individual income tax returns each year.[3] Research
reviewed
by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office indicates that between 50
percent and 75 percent of unauthorized immigrants pay federal, state, and
local taxes.[3] Illegal immigrants are estimated to pay in about $7
billion
per year into Social Security.[15]"


How do they file returns without SSNs? This sounds bogus.


Government statistics say the same. Also, the IRS issues noncitizen TIN's
that work the same as SSN's, except there are no benefits.. they're just for
tax purposes.

Also, think about this: even the ones using faked SSN's are paying into
Social Security. Those payments will not go to the person illegally using
that SSN, but to the person who actually owns the SSN. If nobody owns the
SSN, then the payments just go into the general fund to be distributed
later.




Peter August 12th 10 03:34 AM

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On 2010-08-11 17:24:52 -0700, "Brenda Ann"
said:

Also, think about this: even the ones using faked SSN's are paying into
Social Security. Those payments will not go to the person illegally using
that SSN, but to the person who actually owns the SSN. If nobody owns the
SSN, then the payments just go into the general fund to be distributed
later.


The benefits go into a suspense account where the money is immediately
used up anyway.

So, a real or a faked SSN/TIN doesn't matter as the receipts will be
spent on those who have a valid number and who file for benefits.

I am reminded that when I applied for early SS, do to a marked decline
in my investment portfolio income, I was supposedly required to supply
an official copy of my Certificate of Live Birth.

I actually DID obtain such a certificate from the State of Ohio, but
when I called the local SS office to for instructions, the official
said my COLB was NOT required as they had already verified it from
other sources.

Perhaps from my U.S. Passport data?

I HAD to provide a certified copy of my COLB to obtain my first
passport, but not on subsequent passport applications.

Incidentally, for those so-called "birthers" out there ... both
California and Ohio COLBs are facsimiles of the actual original
document, signed by the attending physician, but printed by
photographic means (Ohio) or xerographic means (California) on special
paper which is virtually impossible to counterfeit. Imbedded silk
threads, multi-color printing (intaglio in CA's case) and
micro-printing. The whole nine-yards. Also a raised seal of the state,
over the signature of the official who issued it ... an MD-MPH in CA's
case.




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