On Jun 22, 9:12*am, John Smith wrote:
On 6/22/2011 8:56 AM, American wrote:









On Jun 22, 7:35 am, John *wrote:
On 6/22/2011 1:55 AM, HVAC wrote:

...
Why do you god believers have such a hard-on for ether?

Is it because neither actually exists? Is that it?

No.

It is because they would have to be willing to look like you, a complete
moron, to deny this is all a creation of a creator, and something can
exist within nothing ... it takes a mind of certain capabilities to be
able to use logic and reason, and allowing the individual(s) in question
the ability to conventionalize the complexities ... to realize what
platforms are necessary to set this all in motion, to have it in
existence ...

To morons, the answer is simple, "It all just happened." *And, "It just
did it on its' own." *Such doesn't bother complete idiots ... indeed,
this serves as good enough explanation to them, works on children and
retards too, and for good reasons!

It is obvious, Einstein was on to something ...

Regards,
JS

If an aetherist really wanted to throw an iron in the fire, he could
validate himself first by claiming that Einstein's Theory of
Relativity is not a Law, but just a theory. In that sense, a theory
cannot be proven. But there are other ways of stating the formula:
E=m_e(c^2)=lambda_e(W_k)(W_x)=e(W_x), where lambda_e represents the
wavelength of the electron, W_k represents the wave intrinsic to the
particle (or to the linear momentum carried by the massfree particle,
usu. equal to de Broglie's pilot or group wave, with W_x representing
the particle, or "extrinsic" to momentum, that is analogous to de
Broglie's phase wave, and "e" representing the charge of the
electron).

Thus the Einstein equation offers only the electromagnetic portion of
mass-energy, and must be taken into consideration with the fine
structure of the mass-energy, as the fine structure relates to the
condensate of the "aether", and not the electromagnetic field.

Enter scalar electromagnetics, where the electron represents a
spherical standing wave with an "in" portion and "out" portion. Each
of their "potential" amplitudes are actually infinite at the center of
the spherical standing wave, but when both opposites are forced to
combine, they form a standing wave of finite amplitude. That amplitude
is a scalar, and not an electromagnetic vector.

Thus the speed of light is not so much a barrier as it is a speed of
energy exchange.

American

"Feynman died in 1988 before his partner John Wheeler met
* Peter Lynds who is now promoting an ancient Greek theory
* on Infinity."

* - The Brodericks, on the movie "Infinity - Feynman"

The truth is open to the eyes ...

"Any fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It
takes a touch of genius-and a lot of courage-to move in the opposite
direction." -- Albert Einstein

In a truly empty box, there is no room -- there is no "space", only an
idiot could possibly call any container "empty" which contains
"spacetime" or the ether, there simply would be nothing to hold the
sides, top and bottom apart!

You fall prey to the same mistake most make, if your ideas have been in
error long enough, they become truth! *However, on close examination,
that is false, in itself ...

Regards,
JS

Ever heard of John Archibald Wheeler? There's the "Participatory
Anthropic Principle" that formulates that it was other observers
that create our reality. If so, is that why humans pray to a
higher form of intelligence, i.e. "God, YHWH, Lord", rather
than hope that we'll have enough money to pay the
humanist piper?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Archibald_Wheeler

The multinationalist banking, unions, and (non-aetheric) fundamen-
talist colonialists are left having to explain for themselves why
things should always continue as they have been, since the days
of Woodrow Wilson (Father of Modern Progressivism). IMO
presidents Lincoln through Wilson, with the possible exception
of Taft, proved that most political parties since Tesla, remained
in the back pockets of the wealthy transnationalists, who would
use fear, uncertainty, and death (FUD) to serve their own,
metered energy needs.

Who are people like Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul, Romney, Cain,
Palin, Pawlenty, and Bachmann? They're all just in the front of
a very long line of puppets and ponzi schemes, designed to
rip off the population at the expense of the multinationalists.
Yeah, the problem is deep and runs through treacherous
waters. America is being set up for another "Greece",
even after Einstein himself (1921) was quoted as saying:

"It strikes me as unfair, and even in bad taste, to select a few
individuals for boundless admiration, attributing superhuman
powers of mind and character to them. This has been my
fate, and the contrast between the popular assessment of
my powers and achievements and the reality is simply
grotesque."

What ever happened to "Realville", as opposed to "Literalville"?
With data skewed based upon political agendas, and status-
quo agendas based upon everything that has been done
before, all the while what's left of the heathen, gets taxed
and spent to death without a single squeak about the massive
lie being perpetrated inside the iron beltway.

American

"Paul Revere of Boston, in the Colony of the Massachusetts
Bay in New England; of Lawfull Age, doth testify an say;
that I was sent for by Docr. Joseph Warren, of said Boston,
on the evening of the 18th of April, about 10 oClock; When
he desired me, "to go to Lexington, and inform Mr Samuel
Adams, and the Honl. John Hancock Esqr. that there
was a number of Soldiers, composed of Light troops, &
Grenadiers, marching to the bottom of the Common, where
was a number of Boat to receive them; it was supposed, that
they were going to Lexington, by the way of Cambridge River,
to take them, or go to Concord, to distroy the Colony Stores."

- Part of the Paul Revere, Deposition [Fair copy], c. 1775,
Special Collections Revere, Massachusetts

On Jun 22, 9:12*am, John Smith wrote:
On 6/22/2011 8:56 AM, American wrote:





On Jun 22, 7:35 am, John *wrote:
On 6/22/2011 1:55 AM, HVAC wrote:

...
Why do you god believers have such a hard-on for ether?

Is it because neither actually exists? Is that it?

No.

It is because they would have to be willing to look like you, a complete
moron, to deny this is all a creation of a creator, and something can
exist within nothing ... it takes a mind of certain capabilities to be
able to use logic and reason, and allowing the individual(s) in question
the ability to conventionalize the complexities ... to realize what
platforms are necessary to set this all in motion, to have it in
existence ...

To morons, the answer is simple, "It all just happened." *And, "It just
did it on its' own." *Such doesn't bother complete idiots ... indeed,
this serves as good enough explanation to them, works on children and
retards too, and for good reasons!

It is obvious, Einstein was on to something ...

Regards,
JS

If an aetherist really wanted to throw an iron in the fire, he could
validate himself first by claiming that Einstein's Theory of
Relativity is not a Law, but just a theory. In that sense, a theory
cannot be proven. But there are other ways of stating the formula:
E=m_e(c^2)=lambda_e(W_k)(W_x)=e(W_x), where lambda_e represents the
wavelength of the electron, W_k represents the wave intrinsic to the
particle (or to the linear momentum carried by the massfree particle,
usu. equal to de Broglie's pilot or group wave, with W_x representing
the particle, or "extrinsic" to momentum, that is analogous to de
Broglie's phase wave, and "e" representing the charge of the
electron).

Thus the Einstein equation offers only the electromagnetic portion of
mass-energy, and must be taken into consideration with the fine
structure of the mass-energy, as the fine structure relates to the
condensate of the "aether", and not the electromagnetic field.

Enter scalar electromagnetics, where the electron represents a
spherical standing wave with an "in" portion and "out" portion. Each
of their "potential" amplitudes are actually infinite at the center of
the spherical standing wave, but when both opposites are forced to
combine, they form a standing wave of finite amplitude. That amplitude
is a scalar, and not an electromagnetic vector.

Thus the speed of light is not so much a barrier as it is a speed of
energy exchange.

American

"Feynman died in 1988 before his partner John Wheeler met
* Peter Lynds who is now promoting an ancient Greek theory
* on Infinity."

* - The Brodericks, on the movie "Infinity - Feynman"

The truth is open to the eyes ...

"Any fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It
takes a touch of genius-and a lot of courage-to move in the opposite
direction." -- Albert Einstein

In a truly empty box, there is no room -- there is no "space", only an
idiot could possibly call any container "empty" which contains
"spacetime" or the ether, there simply would be nothing to hold the
sides, top and bottom apart!

You fall prey to the same mistake most make, if your ideas have been in
error long enough, they become truth! *However, on close examination,
that is false, in itself ...

Regards,
JS- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ever heard of John Archibald Wheeler? There's the "Participatory
Anthropic Principle" that formulates that it was other observers
that create our reality. If so, is that why humans pray to a
higher form of intelligence, i.e. "God, YHWH, Lord", rather
than hope that we'll have enough money to pay the
humanist piper?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Archibald_Wheeler

The multinationalist banking, unions, and (non-aetheric) fundamen-
talist colonialists are left having to explain for themselves why
things should always continue as they have been, since the days
of Woodrow Wilson (Father of Modern Progressivism). IMO
presidents Lincoln through Wilson, with the possible exception
of Taft, proved that most political parties since Tesla, remained
in the back pockets of the wealthy transnationalists, who would
use fear, uncertainty, and death (FUD) to serve their own,
metered energy needs.

Who are people like Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul, Romney, Cain,
Palin, Pawlenty, and Bachmann? They're all just in the front of
a very long line of puppets and ponzi schemes, designed to
rip off the population at the expense of the multinationalists.
Yeah, the problem is deep and runs through treacherous
waters. America is being set up for another "Greece",
even after Einstein himself (1921) was quoted as saying:

"It strikes me as unfair, and even in bad taste, to select a few
individuals for boundless admiration, attributing superhuman
powers of mind and character to them. This has been my
fate, and the contrast between the popular assessment of
my powers and achievements and the reality is simply
grotesque."

What ever happened to "Realville", as opposed to "Literalville"?
With data skewed based upon political agendas, and status-
quo agendas based upon everything that has been done
before, all the while what's left for the "heathen", gets taxed
and spent to death without a single squeak about the massive
lie being perpetrated inside the iron beltway.

American

"Paul Revere of Boston, in the Colony of the Massachusetts
Bay in New England; of Lawfull Age, doth testify an say;
that I was sent for by Docr. Joseph Warren, of said Boston,
on the evening of the 18th of April, about 10 oClock; When
he desired me, "to go to Lexington, and inform Mr Samuel
Adams, and the Honl. John Hancock Esqr. that there
was a number of Soldiers, composed of Light troops, &
Grenadiers, marching to the bottom of the Common, where
was a number of Boat to receive them; it was supposed, that
they were going to Lexington, by the way of Cambridge River,
to take them, or go to Concord, to distroy the Colony Stores."

- Part of the Paul Revere, Deposition [Fair copy], c. 1775,
Special Collections Revere, Massachusetts

On 6/22/2011 10:36 AM, American wrote:

...
"It strikes me as unfair, and even in bad taste, to select a few
individuals for boundless admiration, attributing superhuman
powers of mind and character to them. This has been my
fate, and the contrast between the popular assessment of
my powers and achievements and the reality is simply
grotesque."
...

.... exactly ... and why I said:

The truth is open to the eyes ...

"Any fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It
takes a touch of genius-and a lot of courage-to move in the opposite
direction." -- Albert Einstein

The only people deserving of picking out of a crowd and listening to
have the foundation facts, which everything else is being constructed
on, correct ...

Before you can lay something on a table, you have to have the table ...
before a universe can be constructed, you have to have the space for it
to exist, into ... ether is the platform that everything else exists
within and upon ... indeed, it is the very substance which all matter we
can touch and see is constructed from ...

It is really quite easy to build "something", once you have "something"
to build it from ...

Regards,
JS

On 6/22/2011 10:26 AM, American wrote:
On Jun 22, 9:12 am, John wrote:
On 6/22/2011 8:56 AM, American wrote:









On Jun 22, 7:35 am, John wrote:
On 6/22/2011 1:55 AM, HVAC wrote:

...
Why do you god believers have such a hard-on for ether?

Is it because neither actually exists? Is that it?

No.

It is because they would have to be willing to look like you, a complete
moron, to deny this is all a creation of a creator, and something can
exist within nothing ... it takes a mind of certain capabilities to be
able to use logic and reason, and allowing the individual(s) in question
the ability to conventionalize the complexities ... to realize what
platforms are necessary to set this all in motion, to have it in
existence ...

To morons, the answer is simple, "It all just happened." And, "It just
did it on its' own." Such doesn't bother complete idiots ... indeed,
this serves as good enough explanation to them, works on children and
retards too, and for good reasons!

It is obvious, Einstein was on to something ...

Regards,
JS

If an aetherist really wanted to throw an iron in the fire, he could
validate himself first by claiming that Einstein's Theory of
Relativity is not a Law, but just a theory. In that sense, a theory
cannot be proven. But there are other ways of stating the formula:
E=m_e(c^2)=lambda_e(W_k)(W_x)=e(W_x), where lambda_e represents the
wavelength of the electron, W_k represents the wave intrinsic to the
particle (or to the linear momentum carried by the massfree particle,
usu. equal to de Broglie's pilot or group wave, with W_x representing
the particle, or "extrinsic" to momentum, that is analogous to de
Broglie's phase wave, and "e" representing the charge of the
electron).

Thus the Einstein equation offers only the electromagnetic portion of
mass-energy, and must be taken into consideration with the fine
structure of the mass-energy, as the fine structure relates to the
condensate of the "aether", and not the electromagnetic field.

Enter scalar electromagnetics, where the electron represents a
spherical standing wave with an "in" portion and "out" portion. Each
of their "potential" amplitudes are actually infinite at the center of
the spherical standing wave, but when both opposites are forced to
combine, they form a standing wave of finite amplitude. That amplitude
is a scalar, and not an electromagnetic vector.

Thus the speed of light is not so much a barrier as it is a speed of
energy exchange.

American

"Feynman died in 1988 before his partner John Wheeler met
Peter Lynds who is now promoting an ancient Greek theory
on Infinity."

- The Brodericks, on the movie "Infinity - Feynman"

The truth is open to the eyes ...

"Any fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It
takes a touch of genius-and a lot of courage-to move in the opposite
direction." -- Albert Einstein

In a truly empty box, there is no room -- there is no "space", only an
idiot could possibly call any container "empty" which contains
"spacetime" or the ether, there simply would be nothing to hold the
sides, top and bottom apart!

You fall prey to the same mistake most make, if your ideas have been in
error long enough, they become truth! However, on close examination,
that is false, in itself ...

Regards,
JS

Ever heard of John Archibald Wheeler? There's the "Participatory
Anthropic Principle" that formulates that it was other observers
that create our reality. If so, is that why humans pray to a
higher form of intelligence, i.e. "God, YHWH, Lord", rather
than hope that we'll have enough money to pay the
humanist piper?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Archibald_Wheeler

The multinationalist banking, unions, and (non-aetheric) fundamen-
talist colonialists are left having to explain for themselves why
things should always continue as they have been, since the days
of Woodrow Wilson (Father of Modern Progressivism). IMO
presidents Lincoln through Wilson, with the possible exception
of Taft, proved that most political parties since Tesla, remained
in the back pockets of the wealthy transnationalists, who would
use fear, uncertainty, and death (FUD) to serve their own,
metered energy needs.

Who are people like Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul, Romney, Cain,
Palin, Pawlenty, and Bachmann? They're all just in the front of
a very long line of puppets and ponzi schemes, designed to
rip off the population at the expense of the multinationalists.
Yeah, the problem is deep and runs through treacherous
waters. America is being set up for another "Greece",
even after Einstein himself (1921) was quoted as saying:

"It strikes me as unfair, and even in bad taste, to select a few
individuals for boundless admiration, attributing superhuman
powers of mind and character to them. This has been my
fate, and the contrast between the popular assessment of
my powers and achievements and the reality is simply
grotesque."

What ever happened to "Realville", as opposed to "Literalville"?
With data skewed based upon political agendas, and status-
quo agendas based upon everything that has been done
before, all the while what's left of the heathen, gets taxed
and spent to death without a single squeak about the massive
lie being perpetrated inside the iron beltway.

American

"Paul Revere of Boston, in the Colony of the Massachusetts
Bay in New England; of Lawfull Age, doth testify an say;
that I was sent for by Docr. Joseph Warren, of said Boston,
on the evening of the 18th of April, about 10 oClock; When
he desired me, "to go to Lexington, and inform Mr Samuel
Adams, and the Honl. John Hancock Esqr. that there
was a number of Soldiers, composed of Light troops,&
Grenadiers, marching to the bottom of the Common, where
was a number of Boat to receive them; it was supposed, that
they were going to Lexington, by the way of Cambridge River,
to take them, or go to Concord, to distroy the Colony Stores."

- Part of the Paul Revere, Deposition [Fair copy], c. 1775,
Special Collections Revere, Massachusetts

Some things are relevant to radio, gravity, ether, energies, etc.,
politicians and forefathers are not, with the exception of Benjamin
Franklin who "discovered" electricity ...

Regards,
JS

On 6/22/2011 8:07 AM, Colanth wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 19:08:23 -0500, Free
wrote:

It wasn't "the social agenda", you just had an insane teacher.

Insane religious teacher.

But they were allowed to do that back when. Teaching religious belief
in public schools wasn't only allowed, it was completely legal. (And
if you were a different religion than the one being taught to your
kids, that was tough. Move.)

The documents which grant us franchise on the form of American
government, and our way of life are given us, mainly, in three
documents, The Declaration of Independence, The Constitution and The
Bill of Rights. Each preceding document serving as a platform for the
rights and powers granted to the people by each succeeding document.
They give us "creator granted rights" with are inalienable -- they can
neither be given away nor taken away -- they simply can never be "lost",
they are ours for the duration of the life of the universe, as long as
the human race and its' progeny exist. If they are ever forcefully
taken, limited, or harmed, in any way, it our duty, our responsibility
to have no rest until they are firmly regained and established in full
.... this responsibility demands that we be willing to lay down our very
lives in this pursuit, if necessary, and to repay such debts as we owe
to those before us who made such sacrifices for us.

A platform of rules, laws and logic underlays all these, there are very
much inline with "Christian principles", you can play with that anyway
you like ...

Regards,
JS

Larry Taylor Blog News.Super Solar Flare.
http://www.standeyo.com

I know a Larry Taylor guy who lives in Shreveport.He is originally from
Jackson,Missy Sippy, we went to the same school, he moved to Shreveport
back in the 1960s.I don't think he has a blog site.
cuhulin

On Jun 22, 10:49*am, John Smith wrote:
On 6/22/2011 10:36 AM, American wrote:

...
"It strikes me as unfair, and even in bad taste, to select a few
* individuals for boundless admiration, attributing superhuman
* powers of mind and character to them. This has been my
* fate, and the contrast between the popular assessment of
* my powers and achievements and the reality is simply
* grotesque."
...

... exactly ... and why I said:

The truth is open to the eyes ...

"Any fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It
takes a touch of genius-and a lot of courage-to move in the opposite
direction." -- Albert Einstein

The only people deserving of picking out of a crowd and listening to
have the foundation facts, which everything else is being constructed
on, correct ...

Before you can lay something on a table, you have to have the table ...
before a universe can be constructed, you have to have the space for it
to exist, into ... ether is the platform that everything else exists
within and upon ... indeed, it is the very substance which all matter we
can touch and see is constructed from ...

It is really quite easy to build "something", once you have "something"
to build it from ...

Regards,
JS

The truth is unseen. If the whole truth were to be revealed all at
once, then Moses would have seen the face of God. Certain rules have
to be laid down before the truth can be revealed. The "picture" alone
is not enough to validate the truth, unless those who are perpetrating
the "foundation" or "table" that you mention, are doing it for the
cause of the "truth", i.e. righteousness, survival, defense, etc.
Engineering drawings IMO become self-perpetrating, once the original
architect's idea comes more into focus. Even the architect may gain
his understanding from other sources, which could be science fiction
(originally science "faction, circa Disney's "Tomorrowland", 1955,
which later became "Star Tours: The Adventures Continue" in 2011).

How much this is based in reality, rather than "escapism", will
probably result in the latter for most. If anyone else has any better
ideas available - ideas that will guarantee to put money in the
pockets of millions of potential entrepreneurs, then it would have to
be accomplished outside of the current FUD complex of master/slave
economics. In other words, the "driver" of the economy should become
based upon a new form of energy, but not completely outside of the oil
markets. That would have to be in the heavier earth-to-orbit industry,
in addition to many things having already been invented, but forced
into subterfuge, by the FUD masters.

One can listen to Wheeler's invective "Participatory Anthropic
Principle" and wonder if he (Wheeler) was falling prey to those who
will legislate, rather than put into practice, true scientific
intuitive principles - principles that will always have to be at the
expense of the FUD masters, rather than with those who are faithful
for some off-world cause that doesn't depend upon liquid or solid
propellent rockets getting us there. (Even if they were a product of
the Apollo years, they still carried with them the ideas and interests
of a more advanced technology, which I can't explain fully at the
present time).

Rather than propose some form of individual, non-solid or non-liquid
propellent-less vehicle, as if it were all the rage of the Star Wars
enthusiasts, it would seem even more beneficial to propose several
"attaching propulsive components", each with their own method singular
propulsion, into a massive superstructure, such as the one I've
mentioned in another thread. That would have to be the answer to
anything attempting to force its "escapist" FUD master/slave kind of
entertainment, upon the masses of yet-earthbound "believers" in this
economy, at face value against whatever "entertainment" has now
become.

American

"All our dreams can come true, if we have the courage to
pursue them."

- Walt Disney

On 6/22/2011 12:16 PM, American wrote:
On Jun 22, 10:49 am, John wrote:
On 6/22/2011 10:36 AM, American wrote:

...
"It strikes me as unfair, and even in bad taste, to select a few
individuals for boundless admiration, attributing superhuman
powers of mind and character to them. This has been my
fate, and the contrast between the popular assessment of
my powers and achievements and the reality is simply
grotesque."
...

... exactly ... and why I said:

The truth is open to the eyes ...

"Any fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It
takes a touch of genius-and a lot of courage-to move in the opposite
direction." -- Albert Einstein

The only people deserving of picking out of a crowd and listening to
have the foundation facts, which everything else is being constructed
on, correct ...

Before you can lay something on a table, you have to have the table ...
before a universe can be constructed, you have to have the space for it
to exist, into ... ether is the platform that everything else exists
within and upon ... indeed, it is the very substance which all matter we
can touch and see is constructed from ...

It is really quite easy to build "something", once you have "something"
to build it from ...

Regards,
JS

The truth is unseen. If the whole truth were to be revealed all at
once, then Moses would have seen the face of God. Certain rules have
to be laid down before the truth can be revealed. The "picture" alone
is not enough to validate the truth, unless those who are perpetrating
the "foundation" or "table" that you mention, are doing it for the
cause of the "truth", i.e. righteousness, survival, defense, etc.
Engineering drawings IMO become self-perpetrating, once the original
architect's idea comes more into focus. Even the architect may gain
his understanding from other sources, which could be science fiction
(originally science "faction, circa Disney's "Tomorrowland", 1955,
which later became "Star Tours: The Adventures Continue" in 2011).

How much this is based in reality, rather than "escapism", will
probably result in the latter for most. If anyone else has any better
ideas available - ideas that will guarantee to put money in the
pockets of millions of potential entrepreneurs, then it would have to
be accomplished outside of the current FUD complex of master/slave
economics. In other words, the "driver" of the economy should become
based upon a new form of energy, but not completely outside of the oil
markets. That would have to be in the heavier earth-to-orbit industry,
in addition to many things having already been invented, but forced
into subterfuge, by the FUD masters.

One can listen to Wheeler's invective "Participatory Anthropic
Principle" and wonder if he (Wheeler) was falling prey to those who
will legislate, rather than put into practice, true scientific
intuitive principles - principles that will always have to be at the
expense of the FUD masters, rather than with those who are faithful
for some off-world cause that doesn't depend upon liquid or solid
propellent rockets getting us there. (Even if they were a product of
the Apollo years, they still carried with them the ideas and interests
of a more advanced technology, which I can't explain fully at the
present time).

Rather than propose some form of individual, non-solid or non-liquid
propellent-less vehicle, as if it were all the rage of the Star Wars
enthusiasts, it would seem even more beneficial to propose several
"attaching propulsive components", each with their own method singular
propulsion, into a massive superstructure, such as the one I've
mentioned in another thread. That would have to be the answer to
anything attempting to force its "escapist" FUD master/slave kind of
entertainment, upon the masses of yet-earthbound "believers" in this
economy, at face value against whatever "entertainment" has now
become.

American

"All our dreams can come true, if we have the courage to
pursue them."

- Walt Disney

Gobs of text, saying very little of substance, espousing very
questionable concepts/ideas, which are vague in direction and purpose,
is ... well, it just is ... ROFLOL!

Regards,
JS

"HVAC" wrote in message
...
On 6/21/2011 7:15 AM, herbert glazier wrote:


I wonder how many buck balls are in our solar system and between the
stars? Should we call them 'Liz Taylors" (diamonds). Space has a
continual flow of neutrinos and photons. Space is hot with microwaves
It is tachrons giving their energy to give life to virtual space
particles,and their waves. Tachrons make the aether the universe's
most dynamic place. TreBert



Bert: PLEASE tell me you were drunk when you wrote that.

The only other assumption one could draw from you post is
that you suffer from Down's Syndrome. In other words, you're
a ****ing retard.

No offense, of course.


He's right up there with that Missoura hillbilly noTroll and his
homesick trailer and Gubmint free cheese dreams. They
probably had the same father, Alley Oop.

On Jun 22, 10:59*am, John Smith wrote:
On 6/22/2011 10:26 AM, American wrote:









On Jun 22, 9:12 am, John *wrote:
On 6/22/2011 8:56 AM, American wrote:

On Jun 22, 7:35 am, John * *wrote:
On 6/22/2011 1:55 AM, HVAC wrote:

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Why do you god believers have such a hard-on for ether?

Is it because neither actually exists? Is that it?

No.

It is because they would have to be willing to look like you, a complete
moron, to deny this is all a creation of a creator, and something can
exist within nothing ... it takes a mind of certain capabilities to be
able to use logic and reason, and allowing the individual(s) in question
the ability to conventionalize the complexities ... to realize what
platforms are necessary to set this all in motion, to have it in
existence ...

To morons, the answer is simple, "It all just happened." *And, "It just
did it on its' own." *Such doesn't bother complete idiots ... indeed,
this serves as good enough explanation to them, works on children and
retards too, and for good reasons!

It is obvious, Einstein was on to something ...

Regards,
JS

If an aetherist really wanted to throw an iron in the fire, he could
validate himself first by claiming that Einstein's Theory of
Relativity is not a Law, but just a theory. In that sense, a theory
cannot be proven. But there are other ways of stating the formula:
E=m_e(c^2)=lambda_e(W_k)(W_x)=e(W_x), where lambda_e represents the
wavelength of the electron, W_k represents the wave intrinsic to the
particle (or to the linear momentum carried by the massfree particle,
usu. equal to de Broglie's pilot or group wave, with W_x representing
the particle, or "extrinsic" to momentum, that is analogous to de
Broglie's phase wave, and "e" representing the charge of the
electron).

Thus the Einstein equation offers only the electromagnetic portion of
mass-energy, and must be taken into consideration with the fine
structure of the mass-energy, as the fine structure relates to the
condensate of the "aether", and not the electromagnetic field.

Enter scalar electromagnetics, where the electron represents a
spherical standing wave with an "in" portion and "out" portion. Each
of their "potential" amplitudes are actually infinite at the center of
the spherical standing wave, but when both opposites are forced to
combine, they form a standing wave of finite amplitude. That amplitude
is a scalar, and not an electromagnetic vector.

Thus the speed of light is not so much a barrier as it is a speed of
energy exchange.

American

"Feynman died in 1988 before his partner John Wheeler met
* *Peter Lynds who is now promoting an ancient Greek theory
* *on Infinity."

* *- The Brodericks, on the movie "Infinity - Feynman"

The truth is open to the eyes ...

"Any fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It
takes a touch of genius-and a lot of courage-to move in the opposite
direction." -- Albert Einstein

In a truly empty box, there is no room -- there is no "space", only an
idiot could possibly call any container "empty" which contains
"spacetime" or the ether, there simply would be nothing to hold the
sides, top and bottom apart!

You fall prey to the same mistake most make, if your ideas have been in
error long enough, they become truth! *However, on close examination,
that is false, in itself ...

Regards,
JS

Ever heard of John Archibald Wheeler? There's the "Participatory
Anthropic Principle" that formulates that it was other observers
that create our reality. If so, is that why humans pray to a
higher form of intelligence, i.e. "God, YHWH, Lord", rather
than hope that we'll have enough money to pay the
humanist piper?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Archibald_Wheeler

The multinationalist banking, unions, and (non-aetheric) fundamen-
talist colonialists are left having to explain for themselves why
things should always continue as they have been, since the days
of Woodrow Wilson (Father of Modern Progressivism). IMO
presidents Lincoln through Wilson, with the possible exception
of Taft, proved that most political parties since Tesla, remained
in the back pockets of the wealthy transnationalists, who would
use fear, uncertainty, and death (FUD) to serve their own,
metered energy needs.

Who are people like Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul, Romney, Cain,
Palin, Pawlenty, and Bachmann? They're all just in the front of
a very long line of puppets and ponzi schemes, designed to
rip off the population at the expense of the multinationalists.
Yeah, the problem is deep and runs through treacherous
waters. America is being set up for another "Greece",
even after Einstein himself (1921) was quoted as saying:

"It strikes me as unfair, and even in bad taste, to select a few
* individuals for boundless admiration, attributing superhuman
* powers of mind and character to them. This has been my
* fate, and the contrast between the popular assessment of
* my powers and achievements and the reality is simply
* grotesque."

What ever happened to "Realville", as opposed to "Literalville"?
With data skewed based upon political agendas, and status-
quo agendas based upon everything that has been done
before, all the while what's left of the heathen, gets taxed
and spent to death without a single squeak about the massive
lie being perpetrated inside the iron beltway.

American

"Paul Revere of Boston, in the Colony of the Massachusetts
* Bay in New England; of Lawfull Age, doth testify an say;
* that I was sent for by Docr. Joseph Warren, of said Boston,
* on the evening of the 18th of April, about 10 oClock; When
* he desired me, "to go to Lexington, and inform Mr Samuel
* Adams, and the Honl. John Hancock Esqr. that there
* was a number of Soldiers, composed of Light troops,&
* Grenadiers, marching to the bottom of the Common, where
* was a number of Boat to receive them; it was supposed, that
* they were going to Lexington, by the way of Cambridge River,
* to take them, or go to Concord, to distroy the Colony Stores."

* - Part of the Paul Revere, Deposition [Fair copy], c. 1775,
* * Special Collections Revere, Massachusetts

Some things are relevant to radio, gravity, ether, energies, etc.,
politicians and forefathers are not, with the exception of Benjamin
Franklin who "discovered" electricity ...

Regards,
JS

One has to mention forefathers, as they relate to the original intent
of the Constitution of the U.S. Major corporations have created a
monster out of the Corporate State, disqualifying the present
Constitution as a non-organic one, replacing the Thirteenth
Amendment "If any citizen of the United States shall accept,
claim, receive, or retain, any title of nobility or honor, or shall,
without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present,
pension, office or emolument of any kind whatever, from any
emperor, king, prince, or foreign power, such person shall
cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be
incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them,
or either of them", and adding fraudulent amendments to
replace it. The 14th and 16th amendments were never
ratified by the states!

http://www.uhuh.com/constitution/am13-fgd.htm

Democracy replaces Republicanism with "mob rule" rather
than "government of the people and by the people", and "we
the people". If you follow the paper trail, it is rule by the
Vatican,
which utilizes the "mob rule" principle. The "Crown" is the king's
corporation, setup to do the King's business and protect the
King from any liability (Anyone say "B.P.'?). The bankers and
the crown dress up their candidates for office, help them obtain
election, and then control them while in office. Supposedly,
one is supposed to have a choice, when both major political
parties and other political parties are controlled by them.

Where are all of the new ideas being generated? Not in
the current FUD state - that one's owned by most lobbyists.
Major media is used to direct and control public opinion,
that lies somewhere between the two hammers of the
current Republican and Democratic "establishments".

American

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me
and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country.
Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in
high places will follow, and the money power of the country
will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices
of the people, until the wealth of the nation is aggregated in
a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed."

- Abraham Lincoln, commenting after the passage of the
National Banking Act of 1863 - the forerunner of the Federal
Reserve Act of 1913.