"Don Kirkman" wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 20:58:29 +0000 (UTC), Gray Guest
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[. . .]

But to change the subject and the subject line....
I am looking for a good and readable intro to US Civics for a friend who
is going to become a US citizen.
He wants more than just to pass the test - which he's already fully
qualified to do
He wants more in depth analysis and commentary
In a way, I wish that Isaac Asimov had written a book on this comparable
to his Guide to the Bible..
it would have been a hell of a read...

Democracy In America by De Tocqueville.

de Tocqueville wrote his opus magnus almost 30 years before the Civil
War; it is not a civics book but a commentary/critique of the American
mind and culture at that time. It might be classed as sociology or
anthropology, but not contemporary political science.

Your friend needs a good book on the structure and mechanics of the
American version of a republic within a democracy, as a late 19th
century creed called it. I don't have one to offer; de Tocqueville
would be an interesting read but it doesn't deal with topics like the
effects of the Civil War, the additional amendments to the
Constitution, the wars since 1835, the relationships among
industrialization, massive immigration, the end of slavery and the
subsequent civil rights legislation.


Good points
I believe he's already read De Tocqueville
(But clearly, I need to read him).
So we need something more recent.

"SaPeIsMa" wrote in message
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Good points
I believe he's already read De Tocqueville
(But clearly, I need to read him).
So we need something more recent.


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Kind of nice to see that there are at least some folks who admit they don't
know everything, and are willing to learn.

Brenda Ann wrote:

Kind of nice to see that there are at least some folks who admit they
don't know everything, and are willing to learn.

No, they're not.

John Smith and his moronic cross posting entourage are too stupid to
even try limiting their responses to their own groups.

They are idiots all, and Smith is their leader.


mike



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On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 11:13:15 -0600, m II wrote:

Brenda Ann wrote:

Kind of nice to see that there are at least some folks who admit they
don't know everything, and are willing to learn.

No, they're not.

John Smith and his moronic cross posting entourage are too stupid to
even try limiting their responses to their own groups.

They are idiots all, and Smith is their leader.


mike

Truer words were never posted.

On 9/30/2011 10:28 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 11:13:15 -0600, m wrote:

Brenda Ann wrote:

Kind of nice to see that there are at least some folks who admit they
don't know everything, and are willing to learn.

No, they're not.

John Smith and his moronic cross posting entourage are too stupid to
even try limiting their responses to their own groups.

They are idiots all, and Smith is their leader.


mike

Truer words were never posted.

Truer morons have never been agreed with!

Regards,
JS

On Oct 1, 12:25*pm, John Smith stamped out:

Cross posting MORONS...

"What a Maroon!
Will ya get a load of this Maroon?"
--Bugs Bunny

ROTFLMAO!!! ;D

Hey, numbnuts; it's YOU who started this Cross-posted thread in:

rec.radio.shortwave, talk.politics.guns, rec.sport.golf,
alt.conspiracy

Q. Does Usenet help stamp out ignorance?
A. That depends on whether by `stamp out' you mean
`eliminate' or `reproduce rapidly in great quantity.'
-- Dr. Roger M. Firestone

"If Ignorance is Bliss, then Liberalism must be Nirvana"

On 10/1/2011 10:35 AM, JohnJohnsn wrote:
On Oct 1, 12:25 pm, John stamped out:

Cross posting MORONS...

"What a Maroon!
Will ya get a load of this Maroon?"
--Bugs Bunny

ROTFLMAO!!! ;D

Hey, numbnuts; it's YOU who started this Cross-posted thread in:

rec.radio.shortwave, talk.politics.guns, rec.sport.golf,
alt.conspiracy

Q. Does Usenet help stamp out ignorance?
A. That depends on whether by `stamp out' you mean
`eliminate' or `reproduce rapidly in great quantity.'
-- Dr. Roger M. Firestone

"If Ignorance is Bliss, then Liberalism must be Nirvana"

ROFLOL ... uh, make up a list, post it in response to my post here, when
I get a chance, I will review, can't make you any more promises that ...
I am sure you understand ...

grin

Regards,
JS

On Sep 30, 10:13*am, m II wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote:
Kind of nice to see that there are at least some folks who admit they
don't know everything, and are willing to learn.

No, they're not.

John Smith and his moronic cross posting entourage are too stupid to
even try limiting their responses to their own groups.

They are idiots all, and Smith is their leader.

mike

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"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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"SaPeIsMa" wrote in message
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Good points
I believe he's already read De Tocqueville
(But clearly, I need to read him).
So we need something more recent.


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Kind of nice to see that there are at least some folks who admit they
don't know everything, and are willing to learn.



My grandfather's rule was that the day you stop learning is the day you
start dying.
And life is short.

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