Am 05.10.2011 15:43, schrieb SaPeIsMa:

"John Smith" wrote in message
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On 10/4/2011 7:30 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:

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No, I don't agree. In a democracy the government is 'We, the people...'.
These governments should never be a thread to their own people. That
seems to be an American speciality, that we don't have in Germany.

TH

Oh no, you are confused, the royalty of england had it just the way
they liked it, before our forefathers pointed out what real freedom
is, and insisted upon having it ... a thing which has been stolen
away, in the last few decades, buy the would-be-royalty now inhabiting
our public servant offices ... our gangsters, like the one in the
white house, have their corresponding counterparts in your country ...


Not to mention that the Euros have lived with that kind of "specialty"
for far longer than Americans have.
Which is why poor TH is so confused about who is what.

OK. But if you are so happy with the government, what do you need these
'small guns, the serious protection you need ...' for?

TH

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 18:40:06 +0200, Thomas Heger wrote:


OK. But if you are so happy with the government, what do you need these
'small guns, the serious protection you need ...' for?

TH

Bears and coyotes mainly. Sometimes puma come down from the hills.

dave wrote:

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 18:40:06 +0200, Thomas Heger wrote:


OK. But if you are so happy with the government, what do you need these
'small guns, the serious protection you need ...' for?

TH


Bears and coyotes mainly. Sometimes puma come down from the hills.


Or... if you live in Detroit, or Trenton, NJ!

And again, I never had a "need" for a gun, so far.
I just "want" them in case.

For instance, NOBODY said you MUST have fire extinguishers or smoke
detectors in certain dwellings.

Sure glad I had plenty of both in '95 when our dryer decided to go
ballistic due to a faulty electrical malfunction INSIDE the dryer.

Took 20 minutes for the Fire Dept to show up after we called 911, and
the FD was only 3/4 miles away!

And I already killed the power, and put the fire out!

In all fairness, the FD did provide me with some really cool Oxygen when
they eventually showed up.

Never had that bottled stuff before!

I suggested that they add something "minty".

http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?...nd+ Bear+Arms

Second Admendment.
Firearms, Shootin Irons.

Go to U.K.and what will you see? The 'imprints' of Firearms used as
rebar (steel reinforcement for concrete) in concrete sidewalks and
concrete walls of buildings.Go see for yourself.
cuhulin

dave wrote in
m:

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 18:40:06 +0200, Thomas Heger wrote:


OK. But if you are so happy with the government, what do you need these
'small guns, the serious protection you need ...' for?

TH

Bears and coyotes mainly. Sometimes puma come down from the hills.


Bears and pumas require bigger guns than a Seacamp .32.

--
Sleep well tonight.........RD (The Sandman)

Witnessing Republicans and Democrats bickering over
the National Debt is like watching two drunks argue
over a bar bill on the Titanic.....

Thomas Heger wrote:

Am 05.10.2011 15:43, schrieb SaPeIsMa:


"John Smith" wrote in message
...

On 10/4/2011 7:30 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:

...
No, I don't agree. In a democracy the government is 'We, the
people...'.
These governments should never be a thread to their own people. That
seems to be an American speciality, that we don't have in Germany.

TH


Oh no, you are confused, the royalty of england had it just the way
they liked it, before our forefathers pointed out what real freedom
is, and insisted upon having it ... a thing which has been stolen
away, in the last few decades, buy the would-be-royalty now inhabiting
our public servant offices ... our gangsters, like the one in the
white house, have their corresponding counterparts in your country ...


Not to mention that the Euros have lived with that kind of "specialty"
for far longer than Americans have.
Which is why poor TH is so confused about who is what.

OK. But if you are so happy with the government, what do you need these
'small guns, the serious protection you need ...' for?

Don't confuse being "Happy with our form of Government" VS RELYING on a
Government/Police Force that can't ensure/insure our PERSONAL SAFETY.

Because they CAN not, HAVE not, WILL not, AND ARE not obligated to do so.

Police are merely "a thing" you call AFTER a crime is committed, or is
taking place.

Normal people are allowed to defend themselves AS IT TAKES PLACE!

Therefore, I LOVE my "form of Government" that allows me as a citizen,
to protect my life, my wifes life, our childrens and neighbors and other
others lives, so that that "we" can live on, work, and pay silly taxes.

Thomas Heger wrote in
:

Am 05.10.2011 15:43, schrieb SaPeIsMa:

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
On 10/4/2011 7:30 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:

...
No, I don't agree. In a democracy the government is 'We, the
people...'. These governments should never be a thread to their own
people. That seems to be an American speciality, that we don't have
in Germany.

TH

Oh no, you are confused, the royalty of england had it just the way
they liked it, before our forefathers pointed out what real freedom
is, and insisted upon having it ... a thing which has been stolen
away, in the last few decades, buy the would-be-royalty now
inhabiting our public servant offices ... our gangsters, like the
one in the white house, have their corresponding counterparts in
your country ...


Not to mention that the Euros have lived with that kind of
"specialty" for far longer than Americans have.
Which is why poor TH is so confused about who is what.

OK. But if you are so happy with the government, what do you need
these 'small guns, the serious protection you need ...' for?

Are you an idiot? What makes you think I have a gun to defend myself
against my government? I don't.....I have a gun to defend myself and
family against street predators. So far......so good.


--
Sleep well tonight.........RD (The Sandman)

Witnessing Republicans and Democrats bickering over
the National Debt is like watching two drunks argue
over a bar bill on the Titanic.....

On 10/6/2011 2:50 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
Thomas wrote in
:

Am 05.10.2011 15:43, schrieb SaPeIsMa:

"John wrote in message
...
On 10/4/2011 7:30 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:

...
No, I don't agree. In a democracy the government is 'We, the
people...'. These governments should never be a thread to their own
people. That seems to be an American speciality, that we don't have
in Germany.

TH

Oh no, you are confused, the royalty of england had it just the way
they liked it, before our forefathers pointed out what real freedom
is, and insisted upon having it ... a thing which has been stolen
away, in the last few decades, buy the would-be-royalty now
inhabiting our public servant offices ... our gangsters, like the
one in the white house, have their corresponding counterparts in
your country ...


Not to mention that the Euros have lived with that kind of
"specialty" for far longer than Americans have.
Which is why poor TH is so confused about who is what.

OK. But if you are so happy with the government, what do you need
these 'small guns, the serious protection you need ...' for?

Are you an idiot? What makes you think I have a gun to defend myself
against my government? I don't.....I have a gun to defend myself and
family against street predators. So far......so good.



You are going to need more ... more guns ...

Regards,
JS

John Smith wrote in :

On 10/6/2011 2:50 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
Thomas wrote in
:

Am 05.10.2011 15:43, schrieb SaPeIsMa:

"John wrote in message
...
On 10/4/2011 7:30 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:

...
No, I don't agree. In a democracy the government is 'We, the
people...'. These governments should never be a thread to their
own
people. That seems to be an American speciality, that we don't
have
in Germany.

TH

Oh no, you are confused, the royalty of england had it just the way
they liked it, before our forefathers pointed out what real freedom
is, and insisted upon having it ... a thing which has been stolen
away, in the last few decades, buy the would-be-royalty now
inhabiting our public servant offices ... our gangsters, like the
one in the white house, have their corresponding counterparts in
your country ...


Not to mention that the Euros have lived with that kind of
"specialty" for far longer than Americans have.
Which is why poor TH is so confused about who is what.

OK. But if you are so happy with the government, what do you need
these 'small guns, the serious protection you need ...' for?

Are you an idiot? What makes you think I have a gun to defend myself
against my government? I don't.....I have a gun to defend myself and
family against street predators. So far......so good.



You are going to need more ... more guns ...

I already have more.....more guns....

--
Sleep well tonight.........RD (The Sandman)

Witnessing Republicans and Democrats bickering over
the National Debt is like watching two drunks argue
over a bar bill on the Titanic.....

On 10/6/2011 2:50 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
... ..I have a gun to defend myself and
family against street predators. So far......so good.
...

Well, the Constitution guarantees you the right to own a gun\weapons for
protections against the government ... but, I think most rational men
would extend that to including what your use is.

Regards,
JS