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Faulty Chinese generators....
On 10/27/2011 6:30 PM, m II wrote:
I've had it with Chinese garbage. The amount of trash they produce each year staggers the imagination. What's even more amazing is that we continue to buy it. 'Customer' is quickly becoming synonymous with 'Stupid'. This is the starter solenoid from a 5kw Chinese diesel generator (Launtop powered): http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-1.jpg The machine has two hours TOTAL running time. Note the quality rubber boot. Also note the soldered connections. Those are the solenoid winding terminations. You can NOT get at the contacts until you de-solder the wires. I learned that when I had to clean the non-conducting starter contacts on another, similar, Launtop machine. This is the reason why the starter wouldn't crank the engine over: http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-2.jpg I'm lucky the broken piece didn't get caught in the flywheel ring gear. This is from the socket set I used to remove the battery terminal lug nuts with. http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-3.jpg Care to guess where they were made? This particular model of Launtop generator is sold under dozens of different names. There has been a recall on them. They have counterfeit ISO 2001, CE and Canadian Standards Association (like UL) decals on them. The breakers are also improperly marked. The Canadian Standards people are doing NOTHING to help me, despite the fraudulent use of their Trademarked logo. Launtop is also doing nothing. Red maple seems to be conveniently out of business. http://tinyurl.com/6zrfft Don't buy Chinese. mike The evil is a bit more hidden that what you see there, on the surface. Planned obsolescence causes you to purchase new items to replace the old. The costs in resources, energy, oil, creation of pollution/toxins, dumps fill with obnoxious wastes, etc. is slowly poisoning not only all of us, but the whole planet. The impetus should be placed on strong, durable, long lasting products, if possible, possessions which will last a lifetime, or even be handed down. The benefits in cost, heath and happiness would be astounding ... Instead, we are a bunch of "moronic consumers." Trained to buy products which wear our quickly, so we will consume more ... etc., the cycle is a very vicious one. Not only depriving us of wealth and happiness, but even our health and life. To turn this absurdity of "consumerism" around, at this point, looks like a monumental task bordering on the line of impossible! Indeed, laws are constructed to aid in the filling of dumps, and for questionable reasons and refusal to debate other alternatives ... Regards, JS |
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[.........] The evil is a bit more hidden that what you see there, on the surface. Planned obsolescence causes you to purchase new items to replace the old. The costs in resources, energy, oil, creation of pollution/toxins, dumps fill with obnoxious wastes, etc. is slowly poisoning not only all of us, but the whole planet. The impetus should be placed on strong, durable, long lasting products, if possible, possessions which will last a lifetime, or even be handed down. The benefits in cost, heath and happiness would be astounding ... Instead, we are a bunch of "moronic consumers." Trained to buy products which wear our quickly, so we will consume more ... etc., the cycle is a very vicious one. Not only depriving us of wealth and happiness, but even our health and life. To turn this absurdity of "consumerism" around, at this point, looks like a monumental task bordering on the line of impossible! Indeed, laws are constructed to aid in the filling of dumps, and for questionable reasons and refusal to debate other alternatives ... Regards, JS It was hard rubbish collection time in our suburb this week. The verges were lined with working TVs - everyone has upgraded to cheap LCD/Plasma. The other things that stuck out were hooded BBQ's. Almost every third or fourth house had one out the front. Cheap chinese crap rusting away, most only a year or two old. At between $200 and $400 each its a disgusting waste of money & resources. |
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Dennis expounded in
: Planned obsolescence causes you to purchase new items to replace the old. ... It was hard rubbish collection time in our suburb this week. .. The other things that stuck out were hooded BBQ's. Almost every third or fourth house had one out the front. Cheap chinese crap rusting away, most only a year or two old. At between $200 and $400 each its a disgusting waste of money & resources. When it comes to BBQs, I can understand the need to replace it from time to time. I never spend big bux on one because I plan on replacing it every few years anyway. So I don't need no honkin' Binford-5000 deluxo-bbq to start with. Who wants a fixed dirty old and rusting BBQ? Usually you end up having to spend $50 on a replacement carbourator for it in the spring (bugs like to get in it over winter). But when you can get a new one for $50 more (or less)? My wife once bought a toaster when the cashier asked if she wanted a protection plan for it. She said something to the effect "Are you kidding me?!?! Why would I want the crummy old one fixed? I'd rather get a new [clean] one!" I'm inclined to keep things more than my wife does. But if it smacks of needing cleaning or has "somebody else's germs on it" (used), then I've come to know where that is headed. $$ Warren |
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Warren wrote:
When it comes to BBQs, I can understand the need to replace it from time to time. I never spend big bux on one because I plan on replacing it every few years anyway. So I don't need no honkin' Binford-5000 deluxo-bbq to start with. Who wants a fixed dirty old and rusting BBQ? Usually you end up having to spend $50 on a replacement carbourator for it in the spring (bugs like to get in it over winter). But when you can get a new one for $50 more (or less)? Or use a 2 second blast from the air compressor. My wife once bought a toaster when the cashier asked if she wanted a protection plan for it. She said something to the effect "Are you kidding me?!?! Why would I want the crummy old one fixed? I'd rather get a new [clean] one!" Because the new one will last half as long? I'm inclined to keep things more than my wife does. But if it smacks of needing cleaning or has "somebody else's germs on it" (used), then I've come to know where that is headed. $$ Not me, but then, that allowed me to retire early. |
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Bob F expounded in :
Warren wrote: When it comes to BBQs, I can understand the need to replace it from time to time. I never spend big bux on one because I plan on replacing it every few years anyway. So I don't need no honkin' Binford-5000 deluxo-bbq to start with. Who wants a fixed dirty old and rusting BBQ? Usually you end up having to spend $50 on a replacement carbourator for it in the spring (bugs like to get in it over winter). But when you can get a new one for $50 more (or less)? Or use a 2 second blast from the air compressor. All kinds of nasty things happen to a bbq carbourator over a cdn winter. Believe me, if only it were that simple... My wife once bought a toaster when the cashier asked if she wanted a protection plan for it. She said something to the effect "Are you kidding me?!?! Why would I want the crummy old one fixed? I'd rather get a new [clean] one!" Because the new one will last half as long? For toasters, I'm with her on this one. Do you think that protection plan will make your toaster last longer? I'm inclined to keep things more than my wife does. But if it smacks of needing cleaning or has "somebody else's germs on it" (used), then I've come to know where that is headed. $$ Not me, but then, that allowed me to retire early. Either you have a "optimum wife" or you're single. ;-) Warren |
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Get some concrete blocks, lay them on the ground the way you want
them.Lay something on the top of the blocks for a grill, slap some paint on the blocks.That BBQ thangy will last a lonnnnnng time. I am going to Carl's sheet metal shop on Gallatin Street tomorrow morning and buy a large piece of sheet metal for something I am working on, I won't tell y'all what it is though, it is Top Secret.It isn't anything that would interest y'all all that much anyway. http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=Carl's+Sheet+Metal+Shop+Gallatin+Street +Jackson+Mississippi cuhulin, Sheet Metal R US |
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On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 14:23:22 -0500, J R wrote:
Get some concrete blocks, lay them on the ground the way you want them.Lay something on the top of the blocks for a grill, slap some paint on the blocks.That BBQ thangy will last a lonnnnnng time. I am going to Carl's sheet metal shop on Gallatin Street tomorrow morning and buy a large piece of sheet metal for something I am working on, I won't tell y'all what it is though, it is Top Secret.It isn't anything that would interest y'all all that much anyway. http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=Carl's+Sheet+Metal+Shop+Gallatin +Street+Jackson+Mississippi cuhulin, Sheet Metal R US Let me guess; you're going to cover your floor furnace? |
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I'm buying old electrical products from 2nd hand stores now. I got an
old 1940's Kirby all metal vacuum which still runs great! Got several old 1960's phones which work when the power goes out. Got an old 1950's sewing machine - all metal. Etc. And I have the money to buy brand new. I have bought brand new and the things don't last but a month sometimes! I'm fed up, so back to old for me... |
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Faulty Chinese generators....
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 00:23:22 -0700, "Bill"
wrote: I'm buying old electrical products from 2nd hand stores now. I got an old 1940's Kirby all metal vacuum which still runs great! Got several old 1960's phones which work when the power goes out. Got an old 1950's sewing machine - all metal. Etc. And I have the money to buy brand new. I have bought brand new and the things don't last but a month sometimes! I'm fed up, so back to old for me... Be careful. Longevity is one thing, but safety standards were not nearly as high in the old days-- both insulation safety standards and inclusion of things like approved thermal cutoffs. There used to be hundreds of people dying every year from fires caused by televisions, and I've been shocked a few times by the old metal power tools that developed internal shorts. Some old TVs and radios were "hot" chassis. |
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