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Old December 14th 03, 08:00 PM
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It probably was no longer cost effective to sell it on newstands.

If the ARRL is making money (a no-no for a non-profit corp) then report them
to the IRS. If they are not making money, then no matter how big they are,
it is not about money since no one is making a profit.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



Creative book keeping and Yankee lawyers keeps them out of trouble.
Are they making a profit? Hell yes. No profit, No ARRL. Can they
legally hide their profit? Well sure. With all of the books, CD's,
DVD's, tapes and magazines they sell every year you know there is a
profit. They are no different than GoodWill when it comes to making a
profit except that Goodwill actually helps people. ARRL only helps
itself!

We will probably see QST being hawked in Publishers Clearing House
before too long. Get a magazine and win a million
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Old December 14th 03, 08:26 PM
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JEP wrote:
It probably was no longer cost effective to sell it on newstands.

If the ARRL is making money (a no-no for a non-profit corp) then report them
to the IRS. If they are not making money, then no matter how big they are,
it is not about money since no one is making a profit.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE




Creative book keeping and Yankee lawyers keeps them out of trouble.


Hey! You forgot to call them liberals!


Are they making a profit? Hell yes. No profit, No ARRL. Can they
legally hide their profit? Well sure. With all of the books, CD's,
DVD's, tapes and magazines they sell every year you know there is a
profit. They are no different than GoodWill when it comes to making a
profit except that Goodwill actually helps people. ARRL only helps
itself!


Lessee, just from their website, I've looked up exam dates and
locations, Contest dates and rules, Hamfest dates and locations. I've
downloaded project and info PDF's from them, looked up callsigns and
matched names with callsigns. Looked through the swap section of the
site, and been informed and sometimes entertained by the FCC enforcement
news. Off the web, I've used their hints and kinks books, and I'd be
lost without the Handbook.

And those are just the superficial things, not counting the spectrum
work and really critical stuff such as BPL.

Yup, sure signs of an organization that only helps itself!

Good luck with this one now!

- Mike KB3EIA -

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Old December 15th 03, 01:59 AM
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"JEP" wrote in message
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It probably was no longer cost effective to sell it on newstands.

If the ARRL is making money (a no-no for a non-profit corp) then report

them
to the IRS. If they are not making money, then no matter how big they

are,
it is not about money since no one is making a profit.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



Creative book keeping and Yankee lawyers keeps them out of trouble.
Are they making a profit? Hell yes. No profit, No ARRL. Can they
legally hide their profit? Well sure. With all of the books, CD's,
DVD's, tapes and magazines they sell every year you know there is a
profit. They are no different than GoodWill when it comes to making a
profit except that Goodwill actually helps people. ARRL only helps
itself!

We will probably see QST being hawked in Publishers Clearing House
before too long. Get a magazine and win a million



If they are making a profit, then who is getting the money?? It's got to be
going somewhere. There are no stockholders receiving dividends. It doesn't
do any good just to sit on the money. And don't say salaries as that is
fully documented in the financial records and is not profit. If you believe
the salaries are too high, get on the board that makes the decisions and
reduce them.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



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Old December 14th 03, 08:05 PM
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"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message igy.com...

It probably was no longer cost effective to sell it on newstands.

If the ARRL is making money (a no-no for a non-profit corp) then report them
to the IRS. If they are not making money, then no matter how big they are,
it is not about money since no one is making a profit.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Un-friggin-believable.

Non-profits aren't about profit. They're about salaries.
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"Brian" wrote in message
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"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message

igy.com...

It probably was no longer cost effective to sell it on newstands.

If the ARRL is making money (a no-no for a non-profit corp) then report

them
to the IRS. If they are not making money, then no matter how big they

are,
it is not about money since no one is making a profit.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Un-friggin-believable.

Non-profits aren't about profit. They're about salaries.


If the salaries are too high, get on the board and get them reduced.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

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Old December 15th 03, 06:41 AM
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"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message igy.com...
"Brian" wrote in message
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"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message

igy.com...

It probably was no longer cost effective to sell it on newstands.

If the ARRL is making money (a no-no for a non-profit corp) then report

them
to the IRS. If they are not making money, then no matter how big they

are,
it is not about money since no one is making a profit.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Un-friggin-believable.

Non-profits aren't about profit. They're about salaries.


If the salaries are too high, get on the board and get them reduced.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Who said they were too high?

They have to balance their books somehow (to avoid the appearance of
profit), and the salary is the most convenient place to dump the
excess.

It's about your ignorance of what a non-profit really is.
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Old December 15th 03, 10:22 AM
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"Brian" wrote in message
om...
"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message

igy.com...
"Brian" wrote in message
om...
"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message

igy.com...

It probably was no longer cost effective to sell it on newstands.

If the ARRL is making money (a no-no for a non-profit corp) then

report
them
to the IRS. If they are not making money, then no matter how big

they
are,
it is not about money since no one is making a profit.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Un-friggin-believable.

Non-profits aren't about profit. They're about salaries.


If the salaries are too high, get on the board and get them reduced.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Who said they were too high?

They have to balance their books somehow (to avoid the appearance of
profit), and the salary is the most convenient place to dump the
excess.

It's about your ignorance of what a non-profit really is.


Oh yeah...non-profit is the best place to be...And, the greates exploiter of
human emotion, etc. With little effort, the dollars churn in--most people
don't file for the donation they are entitled to (only large donations whose
contributors are also playing the non-profit game).

That's why I'd like to see the tax structure change to some kind of
percentage across the board. The *only* entity that would not have to pay
any would be a church--and that only for the church building, its parking
lot, and its parish. If they've got a private school, nursing home, etc.,
they pay. And, no deductions for *anyone* or *anything* across the board.
Colgate, Mr. Bates, and me all pay the same percentage of tax out of our
income; that's it--end of game.

Kim W5TIT

Kim W5TIT


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"Kim W5TIT" wrote:

(snip) The *only* entity that would not
have to pay any would be a church--
and that only for the church building, its
parking lot, and its parish. If they've
got a private school, nursing home, etc.,
they pay. (snip)



Why limit any exclusion to just the church building, parking lot, and
parish? Since churches have been running schools, colleges, homeless
shelters, women and youth shelters, food kitchens, youth camps and sports
activities, hospitals, nursing homes, and so on, for many years (some long
before this country was created and each requiring buildings, land, or
equipment), such a limit would have a serious impact on many traditional
church activities.

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Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

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