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June 22nd 04, 03:43 AM
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Frank Dresser wrote: In article , dxAce wrote: Hardly... if there was indeed a market, then they would not be in the financial mess they appear to be in. There seems to be a market, at least right now. Al Franken beat Rush Limbaugh in New York. "For example, among listeners from 25 and 54, whom advertisers covet, the network estimates it drew an average listener share (roughly a percentage of listeners) of 3.4 on WLIB in April, from 10 a.m. and 3 p.m. on weekdays, according to the company's extrapolation of figures provided by Arbitron for the three months ended in April. (Arbitron, which does not provide ratings in monthly increments, said the network's methodology appeared sound, although such figures were too raw to translate to numbers of listeners.) " By contrast, according to Air America's figures, WABC-AM drew an average share of 3.2 during the same period in April for the same age group. That time period includes the three hours in which Mr. Limbaugh was pitted head to head against Mr. Franken. " http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0531-08.htm Air America is in poor financial condition because they were started up by nit-wits. They vastly overestimated their start up cash, they needlessly antagonized a station owner and they had some goofy plan in which they insisted they control all the programming on their affiliates. They paid a million bucks to the stations in Chicago and New York for almost nothing. They'd be raking in the dough through advertising. Maybe they are. Their start-up ratings look good. If the ratings hold, the money will be coming in. That doesn't mean they won't manage to spend more than they take in, though. But they're not, are they? How do you know they are not raking in the dough? Are you suggesting advertisers aren't interested in good ratings? Maybe they need to take lessons from Rush, Hannity, Boortz, etc..... now those guys are making money. Rush, Hannity and Boortz aren't running networks. They are backed by competent businessmen. If Air America fails, and that doesn't seem unlikely, I'm sure somebody will pick up the pieces and do it competently. Aye, there's the rub! There are no Liberal's who do anything whatsoever competently. Air America doesn't need to run a network either, all they need to do is sell a program, and to date, the program isn't selling, at least in mainstream America. It's nice to quote figures from New York City and environs, but they should be an easy sell there, right? The bottom line is and remains, they just ain't making it, as predicted. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
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#2
June 22nd 04, 03:56 AM
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dxAce wrote: Frank Dresser wrote: In article , dxAce wrote: Hardly... if there was indeed a market, then they would not be in the financial mess they appear to be in. There seems to be a market, at least right now. Al Franken beat Rush Limbaugh in New York. "For example, among listeners from 25 and 54, whom advertisers covet, the network estimates it drew an average listener share (roughly a percentage of listeners) of 3.4 on WLIB in April, from 10 a.m. and 3 p.m. on weekdays, according to the company's extrapolation of figures provided by Arbitron for the three months ended in April. (Arbitron, which does not provide ratings in monthly increments, said the network's methodology appeared sound, although such figures were too raw to translate to numbers of listeners.) " By contrast, according to Air America's figures, WABC-AM drew an average share of 3.2 during the same period in April for the same age group. That time period includes the three hours in which Mr. Limbaugh was pitted head to head against Mr. Franken. " http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0531-08.htm Air America is in poor financial condition because they were started up by nit-wits. They vastly overestimated their start up cash, they needlessly antagonized a station owner and they had some goofy plan in which they insisted they control all the programming on their affiliates. They paid a million bucks to the stations in Chicago and New York for almost nothing. They'd be raking in the dough through advertising. Maybe they are. Their start-up ratings look good. If the ratings hold, the money will be coming in. That doesn't mean they won't manage to spend more than they take in, though. But they're not, are they? How do you know they are not raking in the dough? Are you suggesting advertisers aren't interested in good ratings? Maybe they need to take lessons from Rush, Hannity, Boortz, etc..... now those guys are making money. Rush, Hannity and Boortz aren't running networks. They are backed by competent businessmen. If Air America fails, and that doesn't seem unlikely, I'm sure somebody will pick up the pieces and do it competently. Aye, there's the rub! There are no Liberal's who do anything whatsoever competently. Air America doesn't need to run a network either, all they need to do is sell a program, and to date, the program isn't selling, at least in mainstream America. It's nice to quote figures from New York City and environs, but they should be an easy sell there, right? The bottom line is and remains, they just ain't making it, as predicted. One thing I forgot to add, and that is, that I consider Air America to be like flatulence; it may be necessary, but it's not very nice! Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
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#3
July 2nd 04, 11:53 PM
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In article , dxAce
writes: Aye, there's the rub! There are no Liberal's who do anything whatsoever competently. Utter BS, Steve; Michael Moore has the Highest Grossing Film in The U.S. This week; - & he's NOT someone you'd call a neocon.. |
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#4
July 3rd 04, 02:50 AM
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Diverd4777 wrote: In article , dxAce writes: Aye, there's the rub! There are no Liberal's who do anything whatsoever competently. Utter BS, Steve; Michael Moore has the Highest Grossing Film in The U.S. This week; - & he's NOT someone you'd call a neocon.. Nope, I'd call him a liar and a fabricator. This week? I thought perhaps Spiderman was outselling him this week. At any rate, you are somehow trying to equate $$$ with the truth. Consider this: StarWars made a lot of money also, but it too had nothing to do with the truth. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
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July 4th 04, 05:40 AM
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In article , dxAce writes:
At any rate, you are somehow trying to equate $$$ with the truth. Consider this: StarWars made a lot of money also, but it too had nothing to do with the truth. & Our Amplifiers go up to Eleven..! ( This is Spinal Tap ) |
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#6
July 3rd 04, 12:10 AM
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In article , dxAce
writes: Aye, there's the rub! There are no Liberal's who do anything whatsoever competently. OK Steve, Here's The List.. " There are no Liberal's who do anything whatsoever competently. ( GONNNNNGGG ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ;-) Al Jourgensen Alec Baldwin Alyssa Milano Ani DiFranco Barbra Streisand Ben Affleck Bobby Fischer Bruce Springsteen Carlos Santana Cher Chrissie Hynde Danny Glover Dave Matthews David Clennon Dixie Chicks Dustin Hoffman Ed Asner Ed Harris Edward Norton Eminem Eric Roberts Ethan Hawke George Carlin George Clooney Gore Vidal Gwyneth Paltrow Harry Belafonte Jane Fonda Janeane Garofalo Jennifer Aniston Jessica Lange Jethro Tull John Cusack John Mellencamp Johnny Depp Joy Behar Julia Roberts Kate Hudson Larry Hagman Madonna Margaret Cho Martin Scorsese Martin Sheen Maynard Keenan Michael Moore Mike Farrell Moby Oliver Stone Pearl Jam Richard Gere Rickie Lee Jones Robert Altman Robin Williams Sandra Bernhard Sandy Duncan Sean Penn Spike Lee Susan Sarandon Tim Robbins Uma Thurman Viggo Mortensen Whoopi Goldberg Willie Nelson Woody Harrelson - Your words, not mine.. Dan |
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#7
July 3rd 04, 02:56 AM
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Diverd4777 wrote: In article , dxAce writes: Aye, there's the rub! There are no Liberal's who do anything whatsoever competently. OK Steve, Here's The List.. " There are no Liberal's who do anything whatsoever competently. ( GONNNNNGGG ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ;-) Al Jourgensen Alec Baldwin Alyssa Milano Ani DiFranco Barbra Streisand Ben Affleck Bobby Fischer Bruce Springsteen Carlos Santana Cher Chrissie Hynde Danny Glover Dave Matthews David Clennon Dixie Chicks Dustin Hoffman Ed Asner Ed Harris Edward Norton Eminem Eric Roberts Ethan Hawke George Carlin George Clooney Gore Vidal Gwyneth Paltrow Harry Belafonte Jane Fonda Janeane Garofalo Jennifer Aniston Jessica Lange Jethro Tull John Cusack John Mellencamp Johnny Depp Joy Behar Julia Roberts Kate Hudson Larry Hagman Madonna Margaret Cho Martin Scorsese Martin Sheen Maynard Keenan Michael Moore Mike Farrell Moby Oliver Stone Pearl Jam Richard Gere Rickie Lee Jones Robert Altman Robin Williams Sandra Bernhard Sandy Duncan Sean Penn Spike Lee Susan Sarandon Tim Robbins Uma Thurman Viggo Mortensen Whoopi Goldberg Willie Nelson Woody Harrelson - Your words, not mine.. Dan All whiney little liberals. Am I supposed to be impressed? Seems as though I spy one or two there who stated before that if George Bush won the election (past) that they'd leave the country. They lied, and that is just so typical of whiney little liberals. ( GONNNNNGGG ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ;-) |
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#8
July 3rd 04, 08:27 PM
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dxAce wrote:
Seems as though I spy one or two there who stated before that if George Bush won the election (past) that they'd leave the country. They lied, and that is just so typical of whiney little liberals. How did they lie? They didn't say that they'd leave if he was appointed, only if he was actually elected. -- Mike NAR #70953 - Sr/HPR Level-1 ~ BEMRC - NAR Section #627 NO Junk Email, please! Real email to: amphoto [at] blarg [dot] net. WANTED: Experienced Kamikaze Pilot |
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#9
July 3rd 04, 08:30 PM
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"Mike Pearson " wrote: dxAce wrote: Seems as though I spy one or two there who stated before that if George Bush won the election (past) that they'd leave the country. They lied, and that is just so typical of whiney little liberals. How did they lie? They didn't say that they'd leave if he was appointed, only if he was actually elected. And indeed he was, better go do some research, you whiney little liberal 'tard. |
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#10
July 3rd 04, 08:40 PM
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In article , dxAce
wrote: "Mike Pearson " wrote: dxAce wrote: Seems as though I spy one or two there who stated before that if George Bush won the election (past) that they'd leave the country. They lied, and that is just so typical of whiney little liberals. How did they lie? They didn't say that they'd leave if he was appointed, only if he was actually elected. And indeed he was, better go do some research, you whiney little liberal 'tard. Are the liberals in this group just posting crap for fun? Meaningful dialog is not possible if the facts can not be agreed on. The only way they make sense is if you "believe" their incorrect version of events. This is just a general observation. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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