wrote:
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 17:03:12 -0000, wrote:

Solar flare effects at ground level are magnetic effects.

Thanks. There's an all too common misconception that the engergetic
charged particles produced by solar flares, solar storms, solar wind,
CME's, etc somehow land on the power lines, which then appears as a DC
voltage on the lines. That's not how it works at ground level. This
explains it better than I could:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetically_induced_current

I can almost guarantee our babbling Polish idiot believes that solar
produced particles make it through the atmosphere, which they do not.

All that energetic crap from space winds up being trapped by the air in the
upper atmosphere, ionizing the air from about 85 km to 600 km in altitude,
which is why the ionosphere exists.

It occurs to me I should probably define the term "energetic crap from
space".

What is meant is any particle or EMR with sufficient energy to knock an
electron off of an atom.

For EMR, that starts in the UV region, which is the primary source for the
ionosphere under normal conditions.

During solar flares, there are LOTS of high energy particles being ejected
by the Sun of sufficient energy which add to the mix.

For an off topic amusement:

I did a search for our babbling Polish friend and the first thing I found
was a message posted to a Polish medical list where he claims all cancer
is a fungus and should be treated with Epsom salts.

It appears his idiocy is boundless.

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I did a search for our babbling Polish friend and the first thing I found
was a message posted to a Polish medical list where he claims all cancer
is a fungus and should be treated with Epsom salts.

Good to see he gets _some_ things right.

;-)
"Sal"

napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
...
wrote:

I did a search for our babbling Polish friend and the first thing I found
was a message posted to a Polish medical list where he claims all cancer
is a fungus and should be treated with Epsom salts.

Not me:
I have informed that somebody wrote:
"" I read Dr Simoncini's (oncologist) site at
http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/ that basal cell is a candida fungus, in
fact he claims ALL cancer is a fungus, and he recommended tincture of iodine
2x per day onto the basal cell. I tried that and had a major clearing but
could not get the entire thing removed plus an iodine stain is not exactly
wonderful on your head! I then pursued the candida angle and read that
magnesium sulphate (Epsom Salts) saturated solution in water is deadly to
almost any fungus/yeast. Well, after 1 week of applying this it has sorted
out my basal cell and removed it completely. That stuff is dirt cheap and
works."

Before I have read that J. Schneider used the Epsom salt to cancer cure.

Do you know same examples of using the Epsom salt?
S*

Szczepan Bialek wrote:
Do you know same examples of using the Epsom salt?

Yes.

http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2...2/sylvia-dies/

"Rob" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:
Do you know same examples of using the Epsom salt?

Yes.

http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2...2/sylvia-dies/

Is about the sodium bicarbonate. Epsom salt is a magnesium sulfate:

Somebody wrote:
"I then pursued the candida angle and read that
magnesium sulphate (Epsom Salts) saturated solution in water is deadly to
almost any fungus/yeast. Well, after 1 week of applying this it has sorted
out my basal cell and removed it completely. That stuff is dirt cheap and
works."

Before I have read that J. Schneider used the Epsom salt to cancer cure.
S*

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Rob" napisa? w wiadomo?ci
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:
Do you know same examples of using the Epsom salt?

Yes.

http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2...2/sylvia-dies/

Is about the sodium bicarbonate. Epsom salt is a magnesium sulfate:

Somebody wrote:
"I then pursued the candida angle and read that
magnesium sulphate (Epsom Salts) saturated solution in water is deadly to
almost any fungus/yeast. Well, after 1 week of applying this it has sorted
out my basal cell and removed it completely. That stuff is dirt cheap and
works."

Before I have read that J. Schneider used the Epsom salt to cancer cure.
S*

If you develop cancer, PLEASE refuse modern medical treatment and go with
epsom salts.

napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Rob" napisa? w wiadomo?ci
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:
Do you know same examples of using the Epsom salt?

Yes.

http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2...2/sylvia-dies/

Is about the sodium bicarbonate. Epsom salt is a magnesium sulfate:

Somebody wrote:
"I then pursued the candida angle and read that
magnesium sulphate (Epsom Salts) saturated solution in water is deadly to
almost any fungus/yeast. Well, after 1 week of applying this it has
sorted
out my basal cell and removed it completely. That stuff is dirt cheap and
works."

Before I have read that J. Schneider used the Epsom salt to cancer cure.
S*

If you develop cancer, PLEASE refuse modern medical treatment and go with
epsom salts.

J. Schnieder (GRAB SADDLE) did it. He was using the saturated solution of
Epsom salt +Vit C.
The National Center Institute Found that " it killed melanoma, renal, brain,
ovarian, leukemia, colon, CNS and 2 types of lung cancer".

I had the melanoma and "go with epsom salts." But I was sure that it is a
"modern medical treatment".
Of course the cancer disappeared after two weeks without a scar.

John Schneider discovered the cancer cure and Grab Saddle.
S*

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

napisa? w wiadomo?ci
...
wrote:

I did a search for our babbling Polish friend and the first thing I found
was a message posted to a Polish medical list where he claims all cancer
is a fungus and should be treated with Epsom salts.

Not me:
I have informed that somebody wrote:
"" I read Dr Simoncini's (oncologist) site at
http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/ that basal cell is a candida fungus, in
fact he claims ALL cancer is a fungus, and he recommended tincture of iodine
2x per day onto the basal cell. I tried that and had a major clearing but
could not get the entire thing removed plus an iodine stain is not exactly
wonderful on your head! I then pursued the candida angle and read that
magnesium sulphate (Epsom Salts) saturated solution in water is deadly to
almost any fungus/yeast. Well, after 1 week of applying this it has sorted
out my basal cell and removed it completely. That stuff is dirt cheap and
works."

Before I have read that J. Schneider used the Epsom salt to cancer cure.

Do you know same examples of using the Epsom salt?
S*

Yeah, sore feet.

On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 09:16:03 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:

Before I have read that J. Schneider used the Epsom salt to cancer cure.

Well, might as well go further off topic. I'll make it quick and
painless.

In about 2006, I discovered that I had prostate cancer. I had some
time, so I elected watchful waiting, while I shopped around for
alternatives to conventional cancer treatments. I settled on 3 rather
popular treatments and tried them all with religious adherence to
their recommended procedures and strictures. Nothing worked, and my
PSA score continued to climb:
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/psa.jpg
(The big peak in 2007 was from the effects of a kidney stone.) As I
approached meltdown, I finally elected to have my prostate surgically
removed. A year later, I had to go through radiation treatment to
clean up the mess because I had waited a bit too long.

During this exercise, I learned a few things about alternative
medicine and cancer.
1. There are plenty of people that do absolutely nothing and have the
cancer miraculously disappear. It's more common than I suspected. I
know two such people.
2. History is written by the survivors. The failures of any
alternative procedure is unlikely to write a report indicating that
they had died from the procedure. Those that survived, and where the
alternative treatment failed, are unlikely to report the failure. Of
course, the proponents of the alternative treatment are unlikely to
mention failures. The result is the overwhelming number of user
comments on alternative treatment web sites are positive.
3. There are huge number of scams and disreputable medical schemes on
the internet. There are also credible looking research reports, which
offer conclusions not substantiated by any data. Some reports go so
far as to be self-contradictory. I found one that couldn't even get
the arithmetic correct.
4. The way to separate the scams from real research is to determine
if the author has a financial interest in the procedure. If they're
selling a book, potion, drug, procedure, or have a political agenda,
then they should be ignored. What's left are usually government and
university financed studies.
5. Alternative medicine certainly has its benefits. In general, it's
a great way to clean up a bad lifestyle. Living on junk food, not
getting enough exercise, and high stress all have their effects.
However, the price of alternative medicine might be delaying
conventional treatment, which often has fatal results. That's roughly
what happened to Steve Jobs, who delayed pancreatic cancer surgery a
bit too long.

Feel free to try Mr Bialek's recommended treatments. However, have
your exit strategy ready in case they fail.

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

"Jeff Liebermann" napisal w wiadomosci
...
On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 09:16:03 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:

Before I have read that J. Schneider used the Epsom salt to cancer cure.

Well, might as well go further off topic. I'll make it quick and
painless.

In about 2006, I discovered that I had prostate cancer. I had some
time, so I elected watchful waiting, while I shopped around for
alternatives to conventional cancer treatments.

J. Schneider published his results in 2006 after 15 years of experiments.
The National Cancer Institute confirmed it.
Your "alternatives" were the old ones.

But J. Schneider wrote:
"I have no idea if my body was unique in its response to this agent
(saturated solution of Epsom salt + Vit C).
It is obvious that that much more laboratory and clinic testing is necessary
before anyone could recomended this agent to anyone else for their use".

Now I know that my body is also unique.

I settled on 3 rather
popular treatments and tried them all with religious adherence to
their recommended procedures and strictures. Nothing worked, and my
PSA score continued to climb:
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/psa.jpg
(The big peak in 2007 was from the effects of a kidney stone.) As I
approached meltdown, I finally elected to have my prostate surgically
removed. A year later, I had to go through radiation treatment to
clean up the mess because I had waited a bit too long.

During this exercise, I learned a few things about alternative
medicine and cancer.
1. There are plenty of people that do absolutely nothing and have the
cancer miraculously disappear. It's more common than I suspected. I
know two such people.
2. History is written by the survivors. The failures of any
alternative procedure is unlikely to write a report indicating that
they had died from the procedure. Those that survived, and where the
alternative treatment failed, are unlikely to report the failure. Of
course, the proponents of the alternative treatment are unlikely to
mention failures. The result is the overwhelming number of user
comments on alternative treatment web sites are positive.
3. There are huge number of scams and disreputable medical schemes on
the internet. There are also credible looking research reports, which
offer conclusions not substantiated by any data. Some reports go so
far as to be self-contradictory. I found one that couldn't even get
the arithmetic correct.
4. The way to separate the scams from real research is to determine
if the author has a financial interest in the procedure. If they're
selling a book, potion, drug, procedure, or have a political agenda,
then they should be ignored. What's left are usually government and
university financed studies.
5. Alternative medicine certainly has its benefits. In general, it's
a great way to clean up a bad lifestyle. Living on junk food, not
getting enough exercise, and high stress all have their effects.
However, the price of alternative medicine might be delaying
conventional treatment, which often has fatal results. That's roughly
what happened to Steve Jobs, who delayed pancreatic cancer surgery a
bit too long.

I agree with you in 100%.

But the J. Schneider cancer cure is not an alternative.
It is tested in the National Institutions.

Feel free to try Mr Bialek's recommended treatments. However, have
your exit strategy ready in case they fail.

Not my but John Schneider who discovered the cancer cure and Grab Saddle.
S*