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Keith ) writes:
On 25 Jul 2003 20:01:38 GMT, (Michael Black) wrote: What has changed is that the treaty agreement whereby all countries issuing amateur radio licenses are obliged to have a code test of some sort for operating below 30MHz (or, was it a higher frequency?) is now gone. Read the regulation. The regulation indicates that according to international morse code requirements the CW requirement is required. Well the international regulations do not require a morse code proficiency for HF access. 97.301(e) I guess it all boils down to what "IS IS". BTW, what do you care about US regs if you live in Canada? By your interpretation, every ham in the world can start operating on HF, no matter what their license restricts them to, merely because the international agreement on this matter has been rescinded. Your false interpretation would therefore apply to all countries. Besides, you posted in newsgroups that are read by people in many countries, so why shouldn't I comment. The international agreement does not set the rules. While except for Japan with their low power license I can't think of any country that did not respect the treaty agreement, there wasn't much to keep countries from not honoring the treaty, other than on a diplomatic level. If someone operated on HF without passing a code test, they weren't prosecuted by an international body, they were pursued by their own country's enforcement body, which also set the rules that the person was violating. Each country had to put in place rules that reflect the agreement. Those rules are still in effect, until they are changed. "We had to put these rules in place because we honor the international treaty." That's a big difference from "You have to know morse code or else the international boogy man will come down and toss you in jail". The first is about implementing rules that honor an international agreement. The second is some international law that you must respect directly. Find some other section of your rules, and you're bound to find something that tells you you can't operate HF with certain classes of licenses. That's the rule that is in control. It's absolute, and not dependent on some international treaty. When I was a kid, there was no license here in Canada that let someone operate without taking a code test. Some likely argued that the code test was there because of the international agreement, but the rules were quite clear, you couldn't operate unless you took a test, and part of that test was a code test. Back in 1978, there was a code-free license here, but only useable at 220MHz and up, and had a lot of digital questions. The rules were clear; if you got that license you could only operate on those VHF frequencies. Back in 1990, there was restructuring, and there was a license which did not require a code test; but it was also clear in setting out where you could operate. For that matter, the US Technician license originally was VHF and UHF only, yet there was a code test. Your FCC decided it was a necessary requirement, even if the treaty did not require it in that case. It was only in more recent decades, when 10meters was added, that the treaty required a code test. Take away the code test, and the FCC limited such licenses to VHF and above. No, the rules are what counts, not some preamble. Michael VE2BVW |
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"Keith" wrote in message ... On 25 Jul 2003 22:56:38 GMT, (Michael Black) wrote: No, the rules are what counts, not some preamble. The FCC rules are based on that international requirement. Now the FCC could have said you must pass the 5 wpm test to operate on HF frequencies. But they said based on the international proficiency requirements a tech can operate on HF. Today there are no international proficiency requirements for morse code. And before July, there was no specific "code speed" international requirement...yet that didn't allow techs who could do 2 wpm morse on HF...the FCC mandated 5 wpm even though the ITU had no speed minimum. Cheers, Bill K2UNK |
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On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 21:13:14 -0400, "Bill Sohl"
wrote: And before July, there was no specific "code speed" international requirement...yet that didn't allow techs who could do 2 wpm morse on HF...the FCC mandated 5 wpm even though the ITU had no speed minimum. That was only for the test, it has nothing to do with 97.301(e) -- The Radio Page Ham, Police Scanner, Shortwave and more. http://www.kilowatt-radio.org/ |
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"Keith" wrote in message ... On 25 Jul 2003 22:56:38 GMT, (Michael Black) wrote: No, the rules are what counts, not some preamble. The FCC rules are based on that international requirement. Now the FCC could have said you must pass the 5 wpm test to operate on HF frequencies. But they said based on the international proficiency requirements a tech can operate on HF. Today there are no international proficiency requirements for morse code. Actually, the new treaty sez each country can decide for itself. Cheers, Bill K2UNK |
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On Sun, 27 Jul 2003, Bill Sohl wrote:
"Keith" wrote in message ... On 25 Jul 2003 22:56:38 GMT, (Michael Black) wrote: No, the rules are what counts, not some preamble. The FCC rules are based on that international requirement. Now the FCC could have said you must pass the 5 wpm test to operate on HF frequencies. But they said based on the international proficiency requirements a tech can operate on HF. Today there are no international proficiency requirements for morse code. Actually, the new treaty sez each country can decide for itself. ....And that means that it is an OPTION, not a requirement. A requirement cannot be bypassed like an option can. |
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