"Eric F. Richards" wrote in message
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"The Magnum" wrote:



One occurance and the Brazilian guy was so innocent his address was
found in
one of the un-exploded back packs.

Great. That thar is a shootin' offense, sorry, offenCe, yessir.

We have courts for that. We may not like the ponderous process and
the unfortunate celebrated screwups it has produced, but it beats
shooting a guy in the head AFTER you've captured him.

You suffer the same problems in America so dont give me that. It was a one
of rare occurance thats why it was so well publicised. He was taken down and
shot because at the time it was genuinely thought he was a train bomber. If
the police had held back or tried to arrest him as they would in any other
circumstance other than a terrorist alert with the recent bombings making
the police on "high" alert, and he had actually detonated a bomb you would
be critical then also for not taking him down when they had the chance.
You have no time for negotiation or confrontation with these guys as they
are prepaired to die and dont give a damn who they take with them... in fact
the more the merrier... its not like dealing with your average criminal. The
second they realise they have been discovered the bomb goes off...
It is a tragic cock up.. i agree.. but no way is it a common occurance.

"The Magnum" wrote:


"Eric F. Richards" wrote in message
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"The Magnum" wrote:



One occurance and the Brazilian guy was so innocent his address was
found in
one of the un-exploded back packs.

Great. That thar is a shootin' offense, sorry, offenCe, yessir.

We have courts for that. We may not like the ponderous process and
the unfortunate celebrated screwups it has produced, but it beats
shooting a guy in the head AFTER you've captured him.

You suffer the same problems in America so dont give me that. It was a one
of rare occurance thats why it was so well publicised.

It is *your* words and *your implicit indictment* that I quoted above.
You said that he "was so innocent his address was found..." not the
police, not anyone else. YOU.

Now, either the police screwed up, or this is English Justice and
that's just okay. One or 'tother.

Now, I'm working on the assumption that they screwed up. Fine. What
I'm saying is that this so-called "special training" (your phrase
again) they got isn't up to the job. Some random Bobby may not carry
a gun, but those who do -- and are authorized to use force to
potentially preempt a terrorist act -- DAMNED WELL BETTER BE TRAINED
IN HOW TO MAKE A SNAP DECISION UNDER STRESS.

Your "special training" isn't worth ****.

"Eric F. Richards" wrote in message
news
"The Magnum" wrote:


"Eric F. Richards" wrote in message
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"The Magnum" wrote:



One occurance and the Brazilian guy was so innocent his address was
found in
one of the un-exploded back packs.

Great. That thar is a shootin' offense, sorry, offenCe, yessir.

We have courts for that. We may not like the ponderous process and
the unfortunate celebrated screwups it has produced, but it beats
shooting a guy in the head AFTER you've captured him.

You suffer the same problems in America so dont give me that. It was a
one
of rare occurance thats why it was so well publicised.

It is *your* words and *your implicit indictment* that I quoted above.
You said that he "was so innocent his address was found..." not the
police, not anyone else. YOU.

Now, either the police screwed up, or this is English Justice and
that's just okay. One or 'tother.

Now, I'm working on the assumption that they screwed up. Fine. What
I'm saying is that this so-called "special training" (your phrase
again) they got isn't up to the job. Some random Bobby may not carry
a gun, but those who do -- and are authorized to use force to
potentially preempt a terrorist act -- DAMNED WELL BETTER BE TRAINED
IN HOW TO MAKE A SNAP DECISION UNDER STRESS.

Your "special training" isn't worth ****.

In your opinion... besides which their SNAP DECISION was to shoot the
f_cker. And didnt they do it well. The fact they screwed up is neither here
or there... they took him out... The American police do the same, it
happens... i wont be shedding too many tears.. will you?

"The Magnum" wrote:
"Eric F. Richards" wrote in message
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"The Magnum" wrote:



One occurance and the Brazilian guy was so innocent his address was
found in
one of the un-exploded back packs.

Great. That thar is a shootin' offense, sorry, offenCe, yessir.

We have courts for that. We may not like the ponderous process and
the unfortunate celebrated screwups it has produced, but it beats
shooting a guy in the head AFTER you've captured him.

You suffer the same problems in America so dont give me that.


-cross posts snipped-

The difference being, most that read rrcb -live- in the states. If you're
gonna try and change the world, this ain't the group to start with.

You'll need to control us Irish doods first...good luck.

"Steveo" wrote in message
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"The Magnum" wrote:
"Eric F. Richards" wrote in message
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"The Magnum" wrote:



One occurance and the Brazilian guy was so innocent his address was
found in
one of the un-exploded back packs.

Great. That thar is a shootin' offense, sorry, offenCe, yessir.

We have courts for that. We may not like the ponderous process and
the unfortunate celebrated screwups it has produced, but it beats
shooting a guy in the head AFTER you've captured him.

You suffer the same problems in America so dont give me that.


-cross posts snipped-

The difference being, most that read rrcb -live- in the states. If you're
gonna try and change the world, this ain't the group to start with.

You'll need to control us Irish doods first...good luck.

The Irish are a law unto themselves. That said, at least the Irish ie. the
IRA apart from the pub bombings and once when a bomb went off early, had a
bit of humanity and did actually warn about their bombs to give people time
to evacuate.. they were into terror rather than murder although it did used
to happen.
We thought it was simmering down with the disarmament and disbandment of the
IRA but then there was the rioting the other week with the orange march....
god they hate oranges ;o)