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"Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... And there you have one of the more interesting dilemmas to the ARS. Is a brand new Extra, who has never been on HF, even accept Elmering? Or will they insist that the conventions that have been developed over the years are not applicable to them. That depends on how many existing Hams on HF take a crappy attitude towards the upgraded newcomers on the bands. After seeing the poor attitudes shown by several of the more frequent posters on this news group over restructuring etc., I wouldn't let them near a radio, with or with out a code key. They are a perfect example of what Ham Radio is not all about. On the other hand the only good thing about them is many are old timers, who if we wait long enough will be SK's, then we can get on with things without the name calling etc. The only choices they have is either go with the flow, get out of the way, or get run over by the changes. Rolling back the clock is not an option. -- Leland C. Scott KC8LDO ARRL Member NCI Member Charter member of the Lawrence Technological University Wireless Society W8LTU |