"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
...

And there you have one of the more interesting
dilemmas to the ARS.

Is a brand new Extra, who has never been on HF,
even accept Elmering?
Or will they insist that the conventions that
have been developed over
the years are not applicable to them.

That depends on how many existing Hams on HF take
a crappy attitude towards the upgraded newcomers
on the bands. After seeing the poor attitudes
shown by several of the more frequent posters on
this news group over restructuring etc., I
wouldn't let them near a radio, with or with out a
code key. They are a perfect example of what Ham
Radio is not all about. On the other hand the only
good thing about them is many are old timers, who
if we wait long enough will be SK's, then we can
get on with things without the name calling etc.
The only choices they have is either go with the
flow, get out of the way, or get run over by the
changes. Rolling back the clock is not an option.


--
Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

ARRL Member
NCI Member

Charter member of the
Lawrence Technological University
Wireless Society W8LTU

"Leland C. Scott" wrote in part ...

That depends on how many existing Hams on HF take a crappy attitude towards
the upgraded newcomers on the bands. After seeing the poor attitudes shown
by several of the more frequent posters on this news group over
restructuring etc., I wouldn't let them near a radio, with or with out a
code key.
__________________________________________________ ________________________

What's a "code key" -- Could that possibly be something like a straight key?
Or maybe it is a secret way of learning CW? Please enlighten us, Leland.

Arnie -
KT4ST
FISTS 2940 CC 337

member of "Know Code" International

"Arnie Macy" wrote in message
...
What's a "code key" -- Could that possibly be
something like a straight key?
Or maybe it is a secret way of learning CW?
Please enlighten us, Leland.

Are you really that "dense" Arnie where you can't
figure it out on your own?

73's de,

Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

ARRL member
NCI member

"You ask what Morse Code is good for? I'll tell
you. Morse
Code is used exclusively by Electronics Based life
forms to
communicate amongst themselves using advanced
Organic
Digital Signal Processors, running state of the
art Artificial
Intelligence Software, to perform the highly
complex
transmit encryption, receive decryption and error
correction
functions."

"Leland C. Scott" wrote ...

Are you really that "dense" Arnie where you can't figure it out on your
own?

73's de,

Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

ARRL member
NCI member
__________________________________________________ ________________

Nope, but anybody who refers to a straight key as a "code key" and sends
73's is. I suspect you will make a fine operator -- at some point in the
future. Once you get the lingo down pat.

Best 73,

Arnie -
KT4ST

Member "Know Code International"

"I think this QRP unit is broken -- all it does is beep"

"Arnie Macy" wrote in message
...
"Leland C. Scott" wrote ...

Are you really that "dense" Arnie where you
can't figure it out on your
own?

73's de,

Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

ARRL member
NCI member

__________________________________________________
________________

Nope, but anybody who refers to a straight key
as a "code key" and sends
73's is.

Dah, you mean all those fine southern operators on
75m that claim to have been Hams since the dawn of
the dinosaur have it all wrong! Gee I didn't know
that. ;-) My favorite group to monitor hangs out
around 3950 KHz more or less. One or more of them
have even offered to Elmer R.H. on several
occasions between beers.

--
Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

ARRL Member
NCI Member

Charter member of the
Lawrence Technological University
Wireless Society W8LTU

"Leland C. Scott" wrote ...

Dah, you mean all those fine southern operators on 75m that claim to have
been Hams since the dawn of the dinosaur have it all wrong! Gee I didn't
know that. ;-) My favorite group to monitor hangs out around 3950 KHz more
or less. One or more of them have even offered to Elmer R.H. on several
occasions between beers.
__________________________________________________ __________________________
__

I don't hang out anywhere near 3950, Leland. But if you come on over to
3593 at around 7 EDT(Georgia State Traffic Net), you will more than likely
hear me. But, don't hold your breath waiting on someone referring to a
"code key" or sending 73's. You'll be waiting a very long time.

73,

Arnie -
KT4ST

"QSL nr 218 es 73 de KT4ST"