"KØHB" wrote in message
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"Jack Twilley" wrote

If it is, NCI should be raising holy hell about the
pro-code conspiracy behind all these
contests, right?

One NCI Director calls contests "electronic splat ball".
Actually, I kinda like that description. One of my grandsons
asked about contesting, and I used that metaphor. Now he wants
to multi-op with me in this years SS.

You could measure it yourself, you know. Work two similar
contests
(say, two of the QSO parties coming up soon). Operate solely
in phone
for the first contest. Score your points and keep track of
your
experience with notes or something. Operate solely in CW for
the
second contest. Do the same sort of scoring and note-taking.
Report
back to the group with your personal experience.

I regularly work both weekends of SS (CW one weekend, Phone two
weeks later). Both are scored the same way, each two-way contact
counts for 2 points (a message sent and a message received).
Personally I enjoy the CW weekend more, but invariably score
higher on Phone weekend, simply because I can copy CW at only
about 45 WPM, and voice at about 300WPM.

73, de Hans, K0HB

PS: If you don't like keyers, you ain't gonna make it
contesting.


Actually I find that CW is more productive and I'm not nearly as fast at CW
(20wpm for contest, 15wpm for ragchew) as you are but then I'm just running
100watts into basic wire antennas.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

"Dee D. Flint" wrote


Actually I find that CW is more productive and I'm not nearly
as fast at CW
(20wpm for contest, 15wpm for ragchew) as you are but then I'm
just running
100watts into basic wire antennas.


Do you run a frequency, or do you "search and pounce"?

If you have a modest station and you S&P, then CW will likely be
more productive because the gating factor is **getting the
attention of the target station**. CW can be better at that
because you can 'un-zero-beat' to stand out from the pile up and
use other tricks and skills.

However, if you're running a frequency, then the **speed with
which you can exchange messages** is the gating factor, and voice
is faster than Morse by quite a margin.

The November SS is a particularly good event to compare CW vs.
Phone, since the two weekends are close together (share the same
general propagation conditions) and the list of participants is
nearly identical between the two weekends so differing skill
levels and station configurations are factored out.

73, de Hans, K0HB

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"Dee D. Flint" wrote


Actually I find that CW is more productive and I'm not nearly
as fast at CW
(20wpm for contest, 15wpm for ragchew) as you are but then I'm
just running
100watts into basic wire antennas.


Do you run a frequency, or do you "search and pounce"?

If you have a modest station and you S&P, then CW will likely be
more productive because the gating factor is **getting the
attention of the target station**. CW can be better at that
because you can 'un-zero-beat' to stand out from the pile up and
use other tricks and skills.

However, if you're running a frequency, then the **speed with
which you can exchange messages** is the gating factor, and voice
is faster than Morse by quite a margin.

The November SS is a particularly good event to compare CW vs.
Phone, since the two weekends are close together (share the same
general propagation conditions) and the list of participants is
nearly identical between the two weekends so differing skill
levels and station configurations are factored out.

73, de Hans, K0HB


I've tried running a frequency on SSB contests but just don't get enough
takers to make it worthwhile so I finally end up doing the "search and
pounce". I'm not good enough yet to run a frequency on CW so by necessity
do "search and pounce" when operating in this mode.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Subject: Morse and Contests
From: "Dee D. Flint"
Date: 4/27/2004 8:55 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

I've tried running a frequency on SSB contests but just don't get enough
takers to make it worthwhile so I finally end up doing the "search and
pounce". I'm not good enough yet to run a frequency on CW so by necessity
do "search and pounce" when operating in this mode.

I had a lot more fun just setting a "personal goal" and working towards
that when I get into a contest. I set out to get a "Clean Sweep" a few yeas
ago and did it...with less than 150 Q's on each mode!

I'm wondering how many S-units will be added to my 100 watt mobile signal
if it's "/VO1" in the next Sweepstakes...?!?!

73

Steve, K4YZ

Steve Robeson K4CAP wrote:
Subject: Morse and Contests
From: "Dee D. Flint"
Date: 4/27/2004 8:55 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


I've tried running a frequency on SSB contests but just don't get enough
takers to make it worthwhile so I finally end up doing the "search and
pounce". I'm not good enough yet to run a frequency on CW so by necessity
do "search and pounce" when operating in this mode.


I had a lot more fun just setting a "personal goal" and working towards
that when I get into a contest. I set out to get a "Clean Sweep" a few yeas
ago and did it...with less than 150 Q's on each mode!

My goal is to try to up my personal best each time I revisit the same
contest. Two years in a row now, I have missed getting all 67 counties
in the PAQSO by *one* county. That is my biggest goal this year. Second
goal is to be first from PA in the New England QSO party. I've been
stuck at third for the last two years. I did a lot better last year than
the year before, but so have the people I'm competing with.


I'm wondering how many S-units will be added to my 100 watt mobile signal
if it's "/VO1" in the next Sweepstakes...?!?!

You gonna be pop-u-lar! 8^)

- Mike KB3EIA -

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
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Steve Robeson K4CAP wrote:
Subject: Morse and Contests
From: "Dee D. Flint"
Date: 4/27/2004 8:55 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


I've tried running a frequency on SSB contests but just don't get enough
takers to make it worthwhile so I finally end up doing the "search and
pounce". I'm not good enough yet to run a frequency on CW so by
necessity
do "search and pounce" when operating in this mode.


I had a lot more fun just setting a "personal goal" and working
towards
that when I get into a contest. I set out to get a "Clean Sweep" a few
yeas
ago and did it...with less than 150 Q's on each mode!

My goal is to try to up my personal best each time I revisit the same
contest. Two years in a row now, I have missed getting all 67 counties
in the PAQSO by *one* county. That is my biggest goal this year. Second
goal is to be first from PA in the New England QSO party. I've been
stuck at third for the last two years. I did a lot better last year than
the year before, but so have the people I'm competing with.


I'm wondering how many S-units will be added to my 100 watt mobile
signal
if it's "/VO1" in the next Sweepstakes...?!?!

You gonna be pop-u-lar! 8^)

- Mike KB3EIA -


I would rather see him sign from the Yukon myself. Much rarer.

Dan/W4NTI

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
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Steve Robeson K4CAP wrote:

Subject: Morse and Contests
From: "Dee D. Flint"
Date: 4/27/2004 8:55 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


I've tried running a frequency on SSB contests but just don't get enough
takers to make it worthwhile so I finally end up doing the "search and
pounce". I'm not good enough yet to run a frequency on CW so by

necessity

do "search and pounce" when operating in this mode.


I had a lot more fun just setting a "personal goal" and working

towards

that when I get into a contest. I set out to get a "Clean Sweep" a few

yeas

ago and did it...with less than 150 Q's on each mode!

My goal is to try to up my personal best each time I revisit the same
contest. Two years in a row now, I have missed getting all 67 counties
in the PAQSO by *one* county. That is my biggest goal this year. Second
goal is to be first from PA in the New England QSO party. I've been
stuck at third for the last two years. I did a lot better last year than
the year before, but so have the people I'm competing with.



I'm wondering how many S-units will be added to my 100 watt mobile

signal

if it's "/VO1" in the next Sweepstakes...?!?!

You gonna be pop-u-lar! 8^)

- Mike KB3EIA -



I would rather see him sign from the Yukon myself. Much rarer.


That would be a real adventure during that time of the year. I never
had a VE8 (why does that remind me of a commercial??) ever, much less in
a contest.

- mike KB3EIA -