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Lenof21 wrote:
In article .com, "bb" writes: Kim wrote: "bb" wrote in message oups.com... As a matteer of fact, I think Jim IS one of the idiots. Nah. Prolly has a good IQ and all that, but along the way he got mentally sidetracked on things in reality. He gots "turf disease," wherein hanging out daily in some group, being portentiously and pretensiously veddy correct in everything he say makes him a "guru"...well, at least in his own eyes. Inside, he gots a mean streak wherever someone don't think super-highly of his opinions...which are many and varied about nearly everything. Why, Leonard! You seem to be writing about someone very much like YOU. Folkses who is full o' themselves are most especially Very Important Peoples that should never ever be harmed, lest such harm hurt their divine, noble, righteous thoughts within. Again, this sounds much like you. Their country owes THEM a living and they need do nothing for it other than act anal-retentively lawful...and superior to others not as "gifted" as they be. Now I'm assuming that you're still writing about Jim. Where did you come up with the idea that he believes anything like what you've written? After all, he works for a living. You have to understand something of their motivations to see where they are coming from (mostly the fantasies of their own imaginations). If you served with the USAF in some distant land, they think that you HAD to ask the FCC for legal counsel FIRST before operating any radio there... and then they get ****ed at you for obeying your real orders from the USAF instead of them. shrug Those fine superiors in here are all, naturally, morsemen tested at high rates code cognition before the federal government. They are superior supermen and anything they say is the Absolute Truth. No one else can deny that Absolute lest they be buried in a veritable avalanche of smug superiorness of hate mail. They will LIE, cheat, maybe even steal, but whatever they do is Terribly Correct, Righteous. They are the PCTA extras. That should say it all. The above reads like something written in the dayroom of a mental hospital, Leonard. Get a grip on yourself, man! Dave K8MN |
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Dave Heil wrote:
Get a grip on yourself, man! Let's say he DOES "get a grip on (him)self", Dave...What does Lennie do with the other three fingers...?!?! 73 Steve, K4YZ |
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In article , "Kim"
writes: Uh huh. I did ask. And, you came back with this argument initially that--paraphrasing--were you not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled. Incorrect. Brian Burke was specifically talking about those in here who belong to the "PCTA extra" persuasion and who continually try to put those who are against the morse code test. Those "PCTA extras" persist in claiming turf on who should direct EVERYTHING about U.S. amateur radio - including all federal regulations thereof - just because of tenure as an amateur or because they feel they "own" the hobby and are somehow "entititled" to be of the noble calling of amateurism. PCTA extras imply they are "superior" about everything and are busy trying to shove out the NCTAs from this newsgroup. You are entitled to believe that the ground a military person walks on is sacred and that no one else is "entitled" to the same benefits from the United States as a person who has served in the military. You are off on your own fantasy there. Brian Burke served in the USAF, overseas. I served in the US Army, also overseas, and specifically in radio communications. It is safe to say that we are both proud of serving our country. What has grown into this overlong thread is a bunch of NON- servers who imply that they are "superior" in all respects to those of us who served but who are not favoring any morse code test for U.S. amateur radio licenses. Further, those same NON-servers imply/claim that Their knowledge of the military and government is "superior" to Brian and myself. It gets worse when an ex-serviceman (a PCTA extra) brags of his "seven hostile actions" yet cannot identify their where or when, AND has NO claimed experience in any specific radio communications, AND falsely accuses others of "dishonoring" their military unit members. That individual has NO displayed knowledge of military radio communications, networks, or regulations thereof (see the specious claim that "MARS IS amateur radio" instead of the Department of Defense). On top of that this individual continually uses Yiddish pejoratives as personal insults despite having no knowledge of Yiddish nor of central European languages. You are entitled to believe that we don't all, in some form or other, contribute to the integrity, continuance, and strength of the United States--some of us by just damned getting up out of bed every morning and going to some dorky job where a damned good portion of our income goes to supporting the military, and the government, and the "other" people (you know...those who are not worthy)... Well, you claim, solely by birthright, that you are "entitled" to MORE than those of us who spent years in the military, serving our country the best way we could? All because you did NOT serve yourself? That's a remarkable claim of "citizenship" which you wear. It is not an article that I wish to put on at any time. About the only thing that can be said about the extreme polarization in here is that the PCTA extras must certainly believe they are so damned "superior" in radio BECAUSE they took and passed a civilian amateur radio morse code test. Yes, that's the ticket. Moresemen are always "superior." They say so all the time. All others must bow down to them. They are royalty. But, they are still AMATEURS in radio. Try to remember that. Even when those PCTA extras expound on socio-political issues that don't even come close to U.S. amateur radio or its policy, they remain superior and aloof to all NCTA. So, yeah. I asked. And, I should have known better... Quite true. But, you have aligned yourself with the PCTA extra mob in here. As a friendly suggestion, wear some armor next time and the severity of newsgroup wounds won't cause so much apparent psychological trauma. |
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Leo wrote: On 14 Jan 2005 11:30:40 GMT, PAMNO (N2EY) wrote: In article , (Len Over 21) writes: In article , "Kim" writes: snip Who are they, Len? Specifically? Use callsigns because names aren't necessarily unique. Such as you do with Kim's, which I see has been (as always) removed from this thread...... Nope: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...c?dmode=source People who live in glass houses..... See the post above. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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N2EY wrote:
In article , (Len Over 21) writes: In article , "Kim" writes: Uh huh. I did ask. And, you came back with this argument initially that--paraphrasing--were you not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled. Incorrect. Brian Burke N0IMD was specifically talking about those in here who belong to the "PCTA extra" persuasion and who continually try to put those who are against the morse code test. "continually try to put those who are against the morse code test"? Put them where? Those "PCTA extras" Who are they, Len? Specifically? Use callsigns because names aren't necessarily unique. Much easier to not put a name or face on the evil "PCTA Extras". Makes it a lot easier to demonize them. Fact is, of the Extras in here who are PCTA, there are a lot of different personalities, from abrasive to mild mannered. One cannot stereotype a spectrum easily. persist in claiming turf on who should direct EVERYTHING about U.S. amateur radio - including all federal regulations thereof - just because of tenure as an amateur or because they feel they "own" the hobby and are somehow "entititled" to be of the noble calling of amateurism. Where, specifically, has this been claimed? By whom? Perhaps you and N0IMD have very thin skins...;-) PCTA extras imply they are "superior" about everything and are busy trying to shove out the NCTAs from this newsgroup. Really? You're the only person here I've seen tell another to "shut the hell up". Let us not forget the recent offers for one poster to engage in fornication with himself, and for another to stick something up his "I/O port". All in response to civil posts. You imply your own superiority in all things here ;-) ;-) You are entitled to believe that the ground a military person walks on is sacred and that no one else is "entitled" to the same benefits from the United States as a person who has served in the military. You're also entitled to believe that the moon is made of cheese. Or that the earth is flat. Or that your lifelong avoidance of Morse Code has some relevance to amateur radio policy. You are off on your own fantasy there. Naw, Len, she hit the nail really square. Brian Burke served in the USAF, overseas. I served in the US Army, also overseas, and specifically in radio communications. It is safe to say that we are both proud of serving our country. As you should be. Others feel the same way about *their* military service, too. But is the military the only way a citizen can serve our country? Or are there other ways? Does it have to be "overseas"? There are other, direct ways of doing this. What has grown into this overlong thread is a bunch of NON- servers who imply that they are "superior" in all respects to those of us who served but who are not favoring any morse code test for U.S. amateur radio licenses. Further, those same NON-servers imply/claim that Their knowledge of the military and government is "superior" to Brian and myself. "Superior in all respects"? Who has claimed that? Where have they claimed it? Seems to me you just take any opposition to your opinions as an insult. It gets worse when an ex-serviceman (a PCTA extra) Who? brags of his "seven hostile actions" yet cannot identify their where or when, BTW, except in the case of a dishonorable discharge, there are no ex-Marines. just ones who are retired or not on active duty. N0IMD won't give any details about his /T5 operation, yet you accept it as fact. "Leo" won't even identify himself, but you have no qualms that his claims are valid. Yet you question a fellow serviceman's military experience. Odd. Depends on which side of the Morse code issue they are on. In fact, considering the number of insults hurled at various people who have done Military service and happen to be PCTA, I would have to conclude that Len does *not*' show respect for military service. AND has NO claimed experience in any specific radio communications, AND falsely accuses others of "dishonoring" their military unit members. Maybe he's just pulling your leg, Len. ;-) You know, the way you "pull his leg" by calling him "nursie", "murine" and many other names, and referring to him in the wrong gender. That individual has NO displayed knowledge of military radio communications, networks, or regulations thereof (see the specious claim that "MARS IS amateur radio" instead of the Department of Defense). Is he entitled to that opinion, Len? Or are only opinions you agree with allowed to exist? We all know that answer. On top of that this individual continually uses Yiddish pejoratives as personal insults despite having no knowledge of Yiddish nor of central European languages. Perhaps he's just using sarcasm to make a point, Len ;-) ;-) Did you know that Colin Powell is fluent in Yiddish? It's a fact. Len, you go on and on about Morse Code and Morse Code tests even though you have no demonstrated practical knowledge of either. ;-) ;-) ;-) As in all things, lack of experience makes it easier to form a strong opinion. You are entitled to believe that we don't all, in some form or other, contribute to the integrity, continuance, and strength of the United States--some of us by just damned getting up out of bed every morning and going to some dorky job where a damned good portion of our income goes to supporting the military, and the government, and the "other" people (you know...those who are not worthy)... Little sarcasm there, in case you missed it, Len. But Kim got it right - again. Well, you claim, solely by birthright, that you are "entitled" to MORE than those of us who spent years in the military, serving our country the best way we could? All because you did NOT serve yourself? More? Where do you get that, Len? Kim just is saying that everyone contributes. Don't you agree? Or don't "non-servers" count for anything at all? Perhaps you would like to call them "unpersons". That's a remarkable claim of "citizenship" which you wear. It is not an article that I wish to put on at any time. I see. You think some citizens are more equal than others. Oink, oink ;-) ;-) ;-) W4NTI served our country in Southeast Asia. In the military, during a war. Yet you threatened him with your "ounces of pressure" post. K8MN served our country in Southeast Asia. In the military, during a war. He also had a long career serving our country in the State Department. Yet you repeatedly insult him because of his last name, denied his knowledge of State Department communications, and have told him to "shut the hell up" in your classic "feldwebel" post. KH6O served our country in the Coast Guard. ( I don't know if he's still active-duty). Yet you don't consider maritime communications on the largest ocean of the planet to be "big time radio". He's also a teacher at the university level. Yet you repeatedly insult him and his service, most clearly in the your classic "sphincter" post. Speaking of the Coast Guard, I wonder how much guts it takes to go out in one of those rollers and spend a little quality time upside down, while trying to rescue someone. That has to be an *intense* Sphincter pucker moment! There's a lot more... About the only thing that can be said about the extreme polarization in here is that the PCTA extras must certainly believe they are so damned "superior" in radio BECAUSE they took and passed a civilian amateur radio morse code test. They're superior to you in Morse Code skill, Len. And in amateur radio experience. The rest of the difference is a matter of opinion. I'm superior to you in many ways. You are superior to me in some other ways (tapdancing around the facts, for example). Deal with it, pink boy ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) However, you've shown that no matter what military service, education, employment or other accomplishment someone has, you'll make fun of them and their accomplishments if they dare to disagree with you. You'll even say they are lying about the accomplishments, without any evidence. Of course you're not a stickler for evidence anyway, as shown by your demanding an age limit of 14 years for amateur radio licenses, without any evidence that the licensing of young people causes problems. And without any demonstrated practical experience with young people ("teeners", you call them?) So there's no point in anyone mentioning their education, military/government service, employment, etc., around you, because you'll just insult it and say it's inferior. Yes, that's the ticket. Moresemen are always "superior." They say so all the time. "Moresemen"? You mean "Morris men"? All others must bow down to them. They are royalty. Or maybe they're using sarcasm and leg-pulling on you, Len. ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) Can't you deal with a little strong opposition? ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) I think we already knew that. If a person shows no ability to engage in debate without remaining civil, then they can't handle any opposition at all. But, they are still AMATEURS in radio. Try to remember that. And you're not one of them. Your Extra is still in its box. Even when those PCTA extras expound on socio-political issues that don't even come close to U.S. amateur radio or its policy, they remain superior and aloof to all NCTA. Tug, tug! ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) Here's a clue, Len: You're not the newsgroup moderator. So, yeah. I asked. And, I should have known better... Quite true. But, you have aligned yourself with the PCTA extra mob in here. As a friendly suggestion, wear some armor next time and the severity of newsgroup wounds won't cause so much apparent psychological trauma. Somehow I think Kim's a bit tougher than you are, Len. ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) psychological trauma? Oh, btw - your buddy Mike Deignan is *against* code testing. At least that's what he told FCC back in 1999. - Mike KB3EIA - |
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On 14 Jan 2005 04:53:33 -0800, wrote:
Leo wrote: On 14 Jan 2005 11:30:40 GMT, PAMNO (N2EY) wrote: In article , (Len Over 21) writes: In article , "Kim" writes: snip Who are they, Len? Specifically? Use callsigns because names aren't necessarily unique. Such as you do with Kim's, which I see has been (as always) removed from this thread...... Nope: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...c?dmode=source People who live in glass houses..... See the post above. My apologies - you are correct, it's there! 73 de Jim, N2EY 73, Leo |
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Leo wrote:
On 14 Jan 2005 04:53:33 -0800, wrote: Leo wrote: On 14 Jan 2005 11:30:40 GMT, PAMNO (N2EY) wrote: In article , (Len Over 21) writes: In article , "Kim" writes: snip Who are they, Len? Specifically? Use callsigns because names aren't necessarily unique. Such as you do with Kim's, which I see has been (as always) removed from this thread...... Nope: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...c?dmode=source People who live in glass houses..... See the post above. My apologies - you are correct, it's there! Spoken like a gentleman, sir! No problem, Leo. Kim's call appears only once or twice in that long post. Easy to miss. 73 de Jim, N2EY 73 de Jim, N2EY 73, Leo |
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