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Dee Flint April 17th 05 10:37 PM


"anon" wrote in message
...

Read the TRUTH about the deliberate Jew attack on the
USS Liberty at this website, which is operated by survivors of
the attack:

www.ussliberty.org


It was the Israelis that attacked the ship. Not the Jews. Many Jewish
people are not Israelis.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



Len April 17th 05 10:39 PM

"That the attack was deliberate 'just wasn't a disputed issue' within
the National Security Agency"

=Former NSA/CIA Director retired Army Lieutenant General
William Odom on 3 March 2003 in an interview for Naval
Institute Proceedings.

www.ussliberty.org





Len April 17th 05 10:43 PM


"That the Liberty could have been mistaken for the Egyptian
supply ship El Quseir is unbelievable."

=Special Assistant to the President Clark Clifford, in his report
to President Lyndon Johnson.


www.ussliberty.org




Len April 17th 05 10:45 PM


"I can tell you for an absolute certainty (from intercepted communications)
that the Israelis knew they were attacking an American ship."

=NSA Deputy Director Oliver Kirby


www.ussliberty.org





Len April 17th 05 10:50 PM


"Dee Flint" wrote in message
...

"anon" wrote in message
...

Read the TRUTH about the deliberate Jew attack on the
USS Liberty at this website, which is operated by survivors of
the attack:

www.ussliberty.org


It was the Israelis that attacked the ship. Not the Jews. Many Jewish
people are not Israelis.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



Tell that to the surviving family members of the American
sailors deliberately killed by the Jews. Which bullets were
Jew and which were Israeli?




Len April 17th 05 10:52 PM


"Never before in the history of the United States Navy has a
Navy Board of Inquiry ignored the testimony of American
military eyewitnesses and taken, on faith, the word of their
attackers."

=Captain Richard F. Kiepfer, Medical Corps, U.S. Navy,
Retired, USS Liberty Survivor.


www.ussliberty.org





Dee Flint April 17th 05 11:00 PM


"Len" wrote in message
...

"Dee Flint" wrote in message
...

"anon" wrote in message
...

Read the TRUTH about the deliberate Jew attack on the
USS Liberty at this website, which is operated by survivors of
the attack:

www.ussliberty.org


It was the Israelis that attacked the ship. Not the Jews. Many Jewish
people are not Israelis.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



Tell that to the surviving family members of the American
sailors deliberately killed by the Jews. Which bullets were
Jew and which were Israeli?



By your approach, all the Jews in the world should be brought to account for
that event rather than the country of Israel. It is your type of thinking
that perpetuates discrimination. The fault was with the Israeli government
and military not the Jewish people. There are Jewish people in many nations
of the world, including the US, and there were not responsible for this
attack. It would be just as silly and wrong to say that the Christians,
rather than the United States, overthrew the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



Ron April 17th 05 11:12 PM


"Dee Flint" wrote in message
...

"Len" wrote in message
...

"Dee Flint" wrote in message
...

"anon" wrote in message
...

Read the TRUTH about the deliberate Jew attack on the
USS Liberty at this website, which is operated by survivors of
the attack:

www.ussliberty.org


It was the Israelis that attacked the ship. Not the Jews. Many Jewish
people are not Israelis.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



Tell that to the surviving family members of the American
sailors deliberately killed by the Jews. Which bullets were
Jew and which were Israeli?



By your approach, all the Jews in the world should be brought to account
for that event rather than the country of Israel. It is your type of
thinking that perpetuates discrimination. The fault was with the Israeli
government and military not the Jewish people. There are Jewish people in
many nations of the world, including the US, and there were not
responsible for this attack. It would be just as silly and wrong to say
that the Christians, rather than the United States, overthrew the Taliban
in Afghanistan.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



Like I said, go tell your theories to the surviving family members of the
innocent American sailors. Another clueless idiot shoots their
clueless mouth off.





Dee Flint April 17th 05 11:18 PM


"Ron" wrote in message
...

"Dee Flint" wrote in message
...

"Len" wrote in message
...

"Dee Flint" wrote in message
...

"anon" wrote in message
...

Read the TRUTH about the deliberate Jew attack on the
USS Liberty at this website, which is operated by survivors of
the attack:

www.ussliberty.org


It was the Israelis that attacked the ship. Not the Jews. Many Jewish
people are not Israelis.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Tell that to the surviving family members of the American
sailors deliberately killed by the Jews. Which bullets were
Jew and which were Israeli?



By your approach, all the Jews in the world should be brought to account
for that event rather than the country of Israel. It is your type of
thinking that perpetuates discrimination. The fault was with the Israeli
government and military not the Jewish people. There are Jewish people
in many nations of the world, including the US, and there were not
responsible for this attack. It would be just as silly and wrong to say
that the Christians, rather than the United States, overthrew the Taliban
in Afghanistan.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



Like I said, go tell your theories to the surviving family members of the
innocent American sailors. Another clueless idiot shoots their
clueless mouth off.


No you are the clueless idiot. For if you insist on using the term Jew
instead of Israeli, then you believe that the Jewish people here in the US
are responsible. If you insist on using the term Jew instead of Israeli,
you are saying that the Israelis who are Christians are innocent simply
because they are Christians.

The attack was wrong. There is no doubt about that.

And are you saying that the USS Liberty had NO Jewish members of her crew?
It's a large enough ship that the odds would indicate that some of the US
crew probably was Jewish. Who knows, perhaps even some of the fatalities
were Jewish Americans?

Are you saying that there are NO Christians or people of other
religious/cultural beliefs in the Israeli population, the Israeli
government, or Israeli military?

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



K4YZ April 17th 05 11:46 PM


wrote:
wrote:

And, mister wizard, you REWROTE what Robeson wrote.


Not me. You must be thinking of someone else.

"Sorry, Hans, MARS IS amateur radio."


That's not what I wrote.


That IS what I wrote and what Brain has vainly attempted to use as
some messaging point out of context, but that's OK.

In NO way did Pstevie write what YOU say he wrote.


What did I say he wrote?

In NO way did Pstevie's single sentence say what
you IMPLY it did. He is NOT "correct."


You're misquoting all over the place, Len. But it doesn't matter.

Here,
I'll clear it up:

MARS and amateur radio aren't the same thing. But many radio amateurs
are involved in MARS.


As a matter of fact, most MARS operatives are licensed Amateur
Radio operators who are civilians. A few are members of the uniformed
Armed Forces of the United States who are also licensee, and
participate in MARS independent of their duties in the Armed Forces.
The remainder are either uniformed mmebers assigned to work in post
stations or are DoD civilians who run the program.

But the FACT remains that under current regulations and staffing
requirements, without Amateur Radio, there would be NO MARS programs.

Period.

MARS always was and remains a MILITARY radio system.

But most of the participants aren't in the military.


How do YOU know?


I have sources, Len.


Like CQ....QST...The MARS programs themselves...

Haw, that's funny. Len, you pretty much come unglued at the
slightest
opposition to your cherished statements, or when
someone refuses to feed your insult machine.


"Insult machine?"


Yes, that's right. It's what you're all about here.


Now he has Todd and Brian as "Affiliates".

Jimmie Noserve wants the exclusive use of that "machine?"


Do you feel insulted by my posts, Len? It seems so - you seem to find
insult in everything.

Oh, yes, that ties right in with a Canadian museum
having morse code in its window...sure...


Those windows really seem to bother you.

If you ain't got the guts to
tell the details, you AIN'T done it. Simple as that.

Then you must think that Brian Burke, N0IMD-allegedly-
/T5, "ain't done
it", because he won't give any details about his amateur radio
operation in Somalia.


Then you must be as nuts as Psycho Pstevie. Tsk.


Not me, Len. I'm not the one calling people names and telling them to
shut up. You are.

Pstevie pervertedly pejorated hisself at least a
couple orders of magnitude with his alleged
"poor repfit" of NADC on my visit there 34 years
ago...and is still trying (vainly) to rationalize
his LIE as some kind of "truth."


What has that to do with your claim that:

"If you ain't got the guts to tell the details, you AIN'T done it.
Simple as that."

That's what you wrote, Len. Does it only apply to Steve and not to
Brian.

I'm just showing what a damn LIAR he is.


What lie?

The claim he has made is that he found someone who knew you from when
you were allegedly at NADC. And that someone says you didn't do such

a
great job there.

Now maybe it's true and maybe it isn't. But it's basically your word
against that of some unknown person.


And me. Two to one so far.

But,
Pstevie is your BUDDIE and therefore can do NO
wrong.


That's not true at all.


Jim and I have never met save for here and one QSO on the air.

Jim and I have shared many opinions and we have disagreed on many.


Publically. Without name calling.

He is PCTA extra Double Standard class
and can therefore say ANYTHING he wants in
your complete approval.


Not true at all, Len, but you would rather claim so than to face the
facts.


Google archives prove otherwise, Lennie.

Orwell did a good job describing the subjective
reality mindset in his
classic "1984". You remind me of "Big Brother", Len,
in the way you
want to rewrite history to fit your mindset.


Pizz off, sweetie.


What's the matter, Len? Are you insulted? I'm simply
telling you how you appear in this newsgroup.


That was "Absolute Lennie".

And the analogy wa absolutely accurate.

If a person TALKS
about something, that isn't "proof" that they've
DONE it. :-)


Which applies to *you*, Len...


But...but...but...LENNIE!

This very week you've stated that if anyone had done something,
then they SHOULD brag about it.

Certainly YOU do a LOT of talking in this forum and precious little
corroboration of what you say. Some dubiously original by-lines in a
magazine that went belly-up while you were an "associate editor".

Psycho Pstevie still hasn't come up with a SINGLE
detail of "proof" on his insult of my "fitrep" at
NADC.


Nor have you proved him to be mistaken.

And if K4YZ really did participate in seven hostile actions,
then it happened regardless of whether details are given or
not.


HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT IS TRUTH?


It's basic logic, Len. If K4YZ really did participate in seven

hostile
actions, then it happened regardless of whether details are given or
not. That's objective reality.


Let him wallow in his doubts, Jim. Nobody could have done
anything before or better than he, ergo none of the things I did in the
Armed Forces could have happened! (chucklechucklesnortsnort...)

73

Steve, K4YZ



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