Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 06:11:06 GMT, Dave Heil
wrote:

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Thurs, Jan 19 2006 7:43 am

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Jan 18, 8:26 pm
wrote:

I didn't write of "amateurism", Len. I wrote of amateur radio.
Can't you get ANYTHING right?

You wrote of AMATEUR radio. That is AMATEURISM.
I wrote of amateur RADIO, not "amateurism".

I guessyou don't know english that well

Forgive me, Colonel, but you're probably the last person on earth from
whom I'd accept criticism of my use of language.
no i will not

and frankly you are clearly lying you accept no correction from anyone
on anything

I am dyslexic but I know basic word formation what excuse are you
wanting to use

No, Mark, you don't even know basic word formation, sentence formation,
paragraph formation or punctuation.
I certinaly do know it dave

but you lie I simply don't think RRAP is worth the trouble of using
them

Dave K8MN

On 19 Jan 2006 03:05:53 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:


wrote:

Even more basic than that, though, is Dudly's FAILURE to produce
ONE item, documentary or from anyone else, of his vaunted
"active military service in the USMC."

Sorry, Lennie.

A LIE on your part.

I've produced NUMEROUS references to verifyable third-party
sources of my service.

nope never more lies

All of which points to YOU lying about it.

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Within the past day, you've written (badly) the following about Steve
Robeson:

"busllhit you are not"

Busllhit indeed.

"you are lying about me"

Everybody is always lying about you. Isn't that odd?

"I did not alude to I accepted an off made in YOUR name"

In his name? I'm thinking about making you an offer in the name of
Charlemagne.

"you claim that offer was fraud and now you are lying and claiming I
was the orginator"

How is that different from your lying and claiming that Steve is the
originator?

"you are lying and by assuming every refereernce to ste is a rferen to
you is paranoia"

Everybody on the planet is lying about you, Colonel.

"since you were never honoring your end the apology and agreeingto
refrain from you lies and baseless attacks I will make such attack as
I see fit"

You mean you'll continue to foul the newsgroup?

"you post a fraudulant apology and then you claim you did not post it
you don't get the truce that apology asked for"

....but Steve seemed willing to go along with it until you came apart.

"what you did is called theft by deception"

....except that the deception wasn't Steve's.

"now steve claims outrage that I violated a truce mad ein his name that
along with his flaiure to prove his claim that the apolgoy was a
forgery proes that steve set the whole thing up"

By what stretch of logic, as commonly understood by human civilization,
does your wild theory become truth?

"conspricay to commit fraud"

Conspiracy? A conspiracy of one? How does that work?

"where is your pove that the origainl was forged"

His "pove" is in the header, Colonel.

"where is your proof?"

See above.


"you are the fraud you made the apology I offered you none and will not"

He made the apology except that he didn't make the apology. Read the
header, Colonel.

"you have since deined your apology but you contiue to tell lies about
my action you are depecable"

Depecable?

"nope never more lies"

The whole solar system is planting falsehoods about Mark C. Morgan.

It looks from here like you've arrived at the brink of madness. A few
more days might send you into the abyss.

Dave K8MN

an old friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 06:11:06 GMT, Dave Heil
wrote:

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Thurs, Jan 19 2006 7:43 am

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Jan 18, 8:26 pm
wrote:
I didn't write of "amateurism", Len. I wrote of amateur radio.
Can't you get ANYTHING right?

You wrote of AMATEUR radio. That is AMATEURISM.
I wrote of amateur RADIO, not "amateurism".
I guessyou don't know english that well
Forgive me, Colonel, but you're probably the last person on earth from
whom I'd accept criticism of my use of language.
no i will not

and frankly you are clearly lying you accept no correction from anyone
on anything

That's simply untrue. I just wouldn't accept it from one who is
incapable of telling correct from incorrect.

I am dyslexic but I know basic word formation what excuse are you
wanting to use

No, Mark, you don't even know basic word formation, sentence formation,
paragraph formation or punctuation.

I certinaly do know it dave

Let's test it on your sentence above: "I certinaly do know it dave"
The word "certainly" is misspelled. There is no comma after "it" and
"Dave" is capitalized. Other than your three errors in the one, short
sentence, you're perfect.

but you lie I simply don't think RRAP is worth the trouble of using
them

"Anything worth doing is worth doing right".

Dave K8MN

From: Dave Heil on Fri, Jan 20 2006 6:11 am

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Thurs, Jan 19 2006 7:43 am
wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Jan 18, 8:26 pm
wrote:

I didn't write of "amateurism", Len. I wrote of amateur radio.

Can't you get ANYTHING right?

You wrote of AMATEUR radio. That is AMATEURISM.

I wrote of amateur RADIO, not "amateurism".

You wrote of AMATEUR radio, David.

If it is an AMATEUR endeavor, it is about AMATEURISM.

[do you have an aneurism interfering with the concept of
"amateur" activity as "amateurism"?]


Tsk, tsk, tsk, by Heilian Rules: NO ONE can "become
interested" in amateur radio UNLESS they ALREADY have
an amateur radio license!

I didn't say that at all. If you've been interested for decades in
amateur radio (and you've been telling us that for almost a decade), you
aren't really interested in amateur radio.

I'm not?!? Tsk, tsk, you definition of "really interested"
seems mired in being federally licensed to specific radio
bands and modes as in AMATEUR radio.

I've been interested in ALL radio. Amateur radio is a PART
of that. My interest in radio is roughly six decades long,
not just one, David. [I DO wish you would pay attention]


If you had been, you'd have acted upon your interest.

I have acted, both as an amateur and a professional. :-)

However, the pay for a professional actor (live, on stage)
is so little it might as well be on the amateur level
(no compensation).


You aren't going for your first amateur radio license exam.

I'm not? Do I have to "check in" with Herr Robust in order
to "do" something? :-)

You aren't doing doodly-squat.

Untrue. I sometimes doodle while on the telephone. However,
I've never "squatted" and doodled. :-)

Six years ago, you were going for your "Extra right
out of the box". For six years, you've done nothing.

"Nothing?!?" :-)

Ah, NOT APPROVED by Herr Robust und his Kommandments! :-)


Your chicken stayed on the same side of the road, all the while
expressing "interest" in roads.

Untrue! In the last six years I've driven in excess of
eighteen thousand miles on roads. Of course, I've obeyed
the traffic rules and NOT driven on the "other side of the
road" except where legally permissable (as in passing
another vehicle on two-lane roads).


What I wrote is fact.

Pfffttttt...

What "you wrote" is a lot of moralistic claptrap designed
by yourself to win message points. :-)

If you have no license, you may not participate.

"if da glove don't fit, you must acquit!"

What ARE you, Herr Robust, an AMATEUR Johnnie Cochrane? :-)


You may be "interested" in obtaining a pilot's license.

Not now. I once was, but the cost of aircraft ownership was
prohibitive then, still is. :-)

You may tell
anyone on the planet that you have an interest in obtaining a pilot's
license.

Why must I tell "everyone?" :-)

You may even do so for decades.

I haven't.

You may talk at great length about flying.

I can, but aerodynamics, meteorology, aircraft technology is
not necessarily related to being licensed as a pilot.

You may have a few friends who are pilots.

I do.

You may haunt a pilot's newsgroup.

I don't.

But you don't become a pilot until you obtain the license.

Untrue. Only to be a LEGAL pilot, Herr Robust.

I really don't know WHY you introduce this NON-subject into
an amateur radio policy newsgroup, Herr Robust. You are
venturing far afield from the general subject matter.


Your claim of decades of interest in amateur radio is itself nearly a
decade old.

Much, much OLDER, David? Can't you get ANYTHING right?

I'm going by what you've told us. Perhaps you supplied erroneous
information.

I've stated my interest in RADIO began about in 1947. Do the
math. 2006 - 1947 = 59. About six decades. I've written
that before in here. That your memory is erroneous is not
my problem.


RADIO (in general) is fascinating stuff to me. So much
so that I made radio-electronics my career choice.

Not "radio, Len. "Amateur radio". Nobody makes amateur radio a career
choice.

No? :-) Who started Ham Radio Outlet? Henry Radio? A host
of other sales and service organizations specializing in
amateur radio? :-)

How about the ARRL BoD? The officers and staff that get
paid? :-)

How about all the pipe-dreamers imagining themselves as
radio-gods-of-the-air busy "saving lives" through their
"working the bands" and "working DX on HF with CW?" :-)

Why some of them have had "seven hostile actions"
experienced in doing so! :-)


You're confused. We're discussing "amateur radio". You've expressed a
decades-long interest.

Tsk, tsk, you've contradicted yourself again!

First you say "my interest has only been for a decade," and now you
make decades a plural. Is your reasoning "erroneous?"

You've never acted.

Oh, my, an acting critic! Should I tear up my AFTRA card? :-)

Herr Robust, I may not be of "Oscar" thespianship but I HAVE
acted. :-)


You've never even made a move toward obtaining the license.

"Move?!?" You are now insisting I MOVE? Why? I OWN this
land and house...in two states. NO mortage, no liens, no
debts...on both of them.

Well, yes, the southern California residence is NOT good for
HF propagation to my north to east direction, but that is
NOT a good reason why I should give up this SoCal residence
and MOVE north to Washington.

You are getting very, very severe in your demands!


Six years ago, you stated that you were obtaining an "Extra right out of
the box". The box is sealed.

So, SUE me on some "breach of promise" civil action! :-)

Make it your lifelong goal of showing me in the worst
possible darkness of moral-ethical light for NOT doing
something YOU INSIST on my doing?

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In March I will have held a
COMMERCIAL RADIO LICENSE (First Class Radiotelephone)
for 50 years!

I don't care if you hold it for another fifty years.

Tsk, tsk...the only thing you CARE about is to win message
points in here! :-)


That doesn't make you a licensed radio amateur.

I never said it did! :-)


Amateurs! That's right, Len. Radio amateurs are AMATEURS.

...then they are into AMATEURISM, aren't they? :-)


I've never claimed to be a god of radio.

Tsk, tsk, then quit acting like one.

Or get the appropriate Guild membership for your acting. :-)


I don't lay down rules in amateur radio, Len.

No? Then why all your moral-ethical "lecturing" on who should
do what, all under YOUR commandments?


I've already told you that I'm not a god of radio and that I don't know
anyone else who believes himself to be a god of radio.

Tsk, then quit dropping those stone tablets in here upon
which are graven the Commandments. A Moses you ain't.


That's the only kind of radio amateur I know of, Len.

Which Commandment is that? [try not to throw those tablets
down so HARD next time...one of them broke...]



Fine, Len. You're an amateur radio/electronics hobbyist.

Are there "professional" hobbyists? :-)


I'm sure there are a number of newsgroups set up just for guys like you.
I think it'd be nice if you had a place to meet with like-minded
individuals.

There are several. :-)

It might even ease your frustration over years you've wasted in r.r.a.p.

"Wasted?" :-) I get a great deal of enjoyment in here,
puncturing all the ego balloons of the self-righteous
"professional amateurs!" :-)

Especially those self-proclaimed (self-ordained?) gods of radio!


Don't attempt at giving orders here, Leonard.

Why? Do I impinge on your imagined "bossmanship" in here?

Because you hold no authority to do so.

But YOU do? :-)



I acknowledged that you've claimed a decades-long interest in amateur
radio but that you've not acted upon that interest.

Gosh, Herr Robust, you should have warned the late Jim Fisk
of that "lack of (proper) interest" when he accepted several
articles of mine for Ham Radio magazine! And then Alf Wilson
(who took over as editor-in-chief) who made me an Associate
Editor at Ham Radio magazine (check the "mastheads" for
confirmation). Or Rich Rosen who kept me on the staff for
a while.

You tend to play
the guy who is just getting ready to enter amateur radio.

Maybe I will, maybe I won't.

Do I have to TAKE OUT A CONTRACT WITH YOU in order to "prove"
something?!? :-)

I guess I do. Damn, but those stone tablets of yours have
some deep gravings on them!

Don't drop those tablets again, okay? They give me a
headache.


Did you find something incorrect in my statement?

Several. Keep reading, there's more...


What I wrote is RELEVANT NOW.

It might be relevant now, but you aren't--to the FCC or to amateur radio.

Tsk, tsk, now you are contradicting yourself again!

Illogic. If I am NOT "relevant" then I can't be "entering
amateur radio," can I? :-)


Search all through Title 47
C.F.R. as you wish but NO commissioner or staff of the FCC
is required to hold, be granted ANY FCC radio license in
order to regulate and enforce ALL of United States civil
radio.

That'll be relevant to you when and if you are ever hired by or
appointed to the Commission.

Now, now, your hissy-fit snarling has you all confused.

What I wrote is very much relevant to any citizen of the
United States and anyone who holds a reciprocal-agreement
radio license. Employment by the FCC is NOT required.


Of of these days, you might achieve neophyte status.
I'm not banking on it.

"Of of?" Are you stuttering in frustration or rage?

Well, that kind of dumps my optimistic hope of you into the
dumpster. I would have thought you'd learn by now (after
seven years) to be a civil human being in here...not acting
like some god of radio issuing Commandments on What To Do
and How To Do It.

"Neophyte?"

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you now "defining" AMATEUR radio as some sort of trade,
craft, or guild that requires "years of experience" in
order to be a true "professional amateur?" :-)


Amateur radio and its activities are NO SECRET.

No, they aren't. That makes it even more peculiar that a guy with those
decades of interest in amateur radio couldn't have taken the logical
step of acting upon that interest.

Tsk, tsk, you REDEFINE "interst" into some sort of FANATICISM!


Actually, you (the non-radio amateur) seemed to be telling me what to
do.

Tsk, tsk, I wouldn't attempt the impossible! :-)

You aren't in control of my actions on or off the air, Len. I'll
do as I please. You may do as you can.

I "may?" Oh, thank you, thank you, Your Emminance!

Your kind and gentle condescension is so warm!


I'm bound and determined to show you up as the clay-footed pretender
that you are.

Now, now, you are getting all snarly again... :-)


You are NOT a god of radio who
can tell others what to like, dislike, desire, hate, or be
involved in...but you sincerely TRY to do that...

I thought I'd already pointed out the fact that I've never claimed to be
a god of radio, Len.

Tsk, tsk, and now you've gone and made a hypocrite of yourself!

Remember...you just wrote "I may do as I can?" :-)

Your Emminance, your aura of radiance is blinding. Turn it
down a bit, please...


You don't have to like amateur radio. You don't have to dislike amateur
radio. You don't have to desire amateur radio. You don't have to hate
amateur radio. You certainly don't have to be involved in amateur
radio.

Wow! A THIRD Tablet brought down from some burning Bush!

You are one step ahead of Moses! :-)


You aren't here in the cozy lodge hall, Len.

True, the Burbank Elks Club Lodge Hall is being rebuilt (it is on
Hollywood Way near Bob Hope Airport in Burbank, CA).

You're doomed to spend your days on the outside looking in.

Well, YES, until it is finished and inspected. Until then,
unless I am employed by the contractor, I can't go in there.



All I do is state what so many
licensed radio amateurs DO, act like, behave.

You don't even know "many" licensed radio amateurs.

Only a few dozen personally. :-)

However, it is easy to read the opinions of hundreds more in the
public forums available for viewing on the Internet. :-)

Hams aren't about to kow-tow to the likes of you.

Sorry, Herr Moses II, I've not been up on any mountain
and lugging down tablets of Commandments.

[your tablets are giving me a headache...it should be the
other way around...]

Some of those
are simply assholes who think their feces emits no odor.
David, you act like one of those.

Maybe you can find a hobby more to your liking--one in which the
long-time participants will hang on your every word.

In other words, you "feel threatened" by my presence in
here? :-)

Or are you implying you are already "so well hung" that
you resent others pointing out your "short-comings?" :-)

Gosh, Herr Robust, you swing wildly on your Sermons on the
Antenna Mount in here! Seems like you are telling me to
"shut up!" :-)



Having been granted a federal AMATEUR radio license is NOT some
grant to be of better moral or ethical status than anyone else.

Moral or ethical status? What are you prattling on about?

That was in YOUR Sermon! :-)



You haven't got one.

I'm not involved with food products and try to avoid contact
with swine. However, sometimes contact with swine is just
unavoidable. :-)

Like, when your gnawing on a pork chop?

Tsk, tsk, improper use of a contraction...as in "you're" rather
than the "your" you wrote. Please use apostrophes properly.

Move your vowels every day or you'll get consonated.



I don't think of you as a "word-enemy" or "message knuckle", Len. I
prefer to think of you as a horse's patoot.

As a "superior" god of radio, I'm sure you consider yourself
above needs of civility in conversing with ordinary mortals.
Therefore, you feel free to insult, demean, and say nasty to
anyone who doesn't agree with you. shrug

One more example of today's USA "superior" radio amateur, a
role model of behavior for all to emulate...

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:31:31 GMT, Dave Heil
wrote:

an old friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 06:11:06 GMT, Dave Heil
wrote:

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Thurs, Jan 19 2006 7:43 am

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Jan 18, 8:26 pm
wrote:
I didn't write of "amateurism", Len. I wrote of amateur radio.
Can't you get ANYTHING right?

You wrote of AMATEUR radio. That is AMATEURISM.
I wrote of amateur RADIO, not "amateurism".
I guessyou don't know english that well
Forgive me, Colonel, but you're probably the last person on earth from
whom I'd accept criticism of my use of language.
no i will not

and frankly you are clearly lying you accept no correction from anyone
on anything

That's simply untrue. I just wouldn't accept it from one who is
incapable of telling correct from incorrect.
which according to you is basicaly everybody

it quite true you have accepted accepted any correection here on RRAP
while I have been here
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On 20 Jan 2006 15:00:20 -0800, wrote:

From: Dave Heil on Fri, Jan 20 2006 6:11 am

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Thurs, Jan 19 2006 7:43 am
wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Jan 18, 8:26 pm
wrote:
cut

You may be "interested" in obtaining a pilot's license.

Not now. I once was, but the cost of aircraft ownership was
prohibitive then, still is. :-)

You may tell
anyone on the planet that you have an interest in obtaining a pilot's
license.

Why must I tell "everyone?" :-)

or anyone

You may even do so for decades.
cut

You may haunt a pilot's newsgroup.

I don't.

But you don't become a pilot until you obtain the license.

Untrue. Only to be a LEGAL pilot, Herr Robust.

I really don't know WHY you introduce this NON-subject into
an amateur radio policy newsgroup, Herr Robust. You are
venturing far afield from the general subject matter.

Sorry lLen I have to call you on that
you know exactly why Dave is doing this

he has nothing of value to say and so is resorting to bloviation to
try to confuse the unwary


Your claim of decades of interest in amateur radio is itself nearly a
decade old.

Much, much OLDER, David? Can't you get ANYTHING right?

I'm going by what you've told us. Perhaps you supplied erroneous
information.

I've stated my interest in RADIO began about in 1947. Do the
math. 2006 - 1947 = 59. About six decades. I've written
that before in here. That your memory is erroneous is not
my problem.


RADIO (in general) is fascinating stuff to me. So much
so that I made radio-electronics my career choice.

Not "radio, Len. "Amateur radio". Nobody makes amateur radio a career
choice.

No? :-) Who started Ham Radio Outlet? Henry Radio? A host
of other sales and service organizations specializing in
amateur radio? :-)

How about the ARRL BoD? The officers and staff that get
paid? :-)

How about all the pipe-dreamers imagining themselves as
radio-gods-of-the-air busy "saving lives" through their
"working the bands" and "working DX on HF with CW?" :-)

Why some of them have had "seven hostile actions"
experienced in doing so! :-)


You're confused. We're discussing "amateur radio". You've expressed a
decades-long interest.

Tsk, tsk, you've contradicted yourself again!

First you say "my interest has only been for a decade," and now you
make decades a plural. Is your reasoning "erroneous?"

You've never acted.

Oh, my, an acting critic! Should I tear up my AFTRA card? :-)

Herr Robust, I may not be of "Oscar" thespianship but I HAVE
acted. :-)


You've never even made a move toward obtaining the license.

"Move?!?" You are now insisting I MOVE? Why? I OWN this
land and house...in two states. NO mortage, no liens, no
debts...on both of them.

Well, yes, the southern California residence is NOT good for
HF propagation to my north to east direction, but that is
NOT a good reason why I should give up this SoCal residence
and MOVE north to Washington.

You are getting very, very severe in your demands!


Six years ago, you stated that you were obtaining an "Extra right out of
the box". The box is sealed.

So, SUE me on some "breach of promise" civil action! :-)

Make it your lifelong goal of showing me in the worst
possible darkness of moral-ethical light for NOT doing
something YOU INSIST on my doing?

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In March I will have held a
COMMERCIAL RADIO LICENSE (First Class Radiotelephone)
for 50 years!

I don't care if you hold it for another fifty years.

Tsk, tsk...the only thing you CARE about is to win message
points in here! :-)


That doesn't make you a licensed radio amateur.

I never said it did! :-)


Amateurs! That's right, Len. Radio amateurs are AMATEURS.

...then they are into AMATEURISM, aren't they? :-)


I've never claimed to be a god of radio.

Tsk, tsk, then quit acting like one.

Or get the appropriate Guild membership for your acting. :-)


I don't lay down rules in amateur radio, Len.

No? Then why all your moral-ethical "lecturing" on who should
do what, all under YOUR commandments?


I've already told you that I'm not a god of radio and that I don't know
anyone else who believes himself to be a god of radio.

Tsk, then quit dropping those stone tablets in here upon
which are graven the Commandments. A Moses you ain't.


That's the only kind of radio amateur I know of, Len.

Which Commandment is that? [try not to throw those tablets
down so HARD next time...one of them broke...]



Fine, Len. You're an amateur radio/electronics hobbyist.

Are there "professional" hobbyists? :-)


I'm sure there are a number of newsgroups set up just for guys like you.
I think it'd be nice if you had a place to meet with like-minded
individuals.

There are several. :-)

It might even ease your frustration over years you've wasted in r.r.a.p.

"Wasted?" :-) I get a great deal of enjoyment in here,
puncturing all the ego balloons of the self-righteous
"professional amateurs!" :-)

Especially those self-proclaimed (self-ordained?) gods of radio!


Don't attempt at giving orders here, Leonard.

Why? Do I impinge on your imagined "bossmanship" in here?

Because you hold no authority to do so.

But YOU do? :-)



I acknowledged that you've claimed a decades-long interest in amateur
radio but that you've not acted upon that interest.

Gosh, Herr Robust, you should have warned the late Jim Fisk
of that "lack of (proper) interest" when he accepted several
articles of mine for Ham Radio magazine! And then Alf Wilson
(who took over as editor-in-chief) who made me an Associate
Editor at Ham Radio magazine (check the "mastheads" for
confirmation). Or Rich Rosen who kept me on the staff for
a while.

You tend to play
the guy who is just getting ready to enter amateur radio.

Maybe I will, maybe I won't.

Do I have to TAKE OUT A CONTRACT WITH YOU in order to "prove"
something?!? :-)

I guess I do. Damn, but those stone tablets of yours have
some deep gravings on them!

Don't drop those tablets again, okay? They give me a
headache.


Did you find something incorrect in my statement?

Several. Keep reading, there's more...


What I wrote is RELEVANT NOW.

It might be relevant now, but you aren't--to the FCC or to amateur radio.

Tsk, tsk, now you are contradicting yourself again!

Illogic. If I am NOT "relevant" then I can't be "entering
amateur radio," can I? :-)


Search all through Title 47
C.F.R. as you wish but NO commissioner or staff of the FCC
is required to hold, be granted ANY FCC radio license in
order to regulate and enforce ALL of United States civil
radio.

That'll be relevant to you when and if you are ever hired by or
appointed to the Commission.

Now, now, your hissy-fit snarling has you all confused.

What I wrote is very much relevant to any citizen of the
United States and anyone who holds a reciprocal-agreement
radio license. Employment by the FCC is NOT required.


Of of these days, you might achieve neophyte status.
I'm not banking on it.

"Of of?" Are you stuttering in frustration or rage?

Well, that kind of dumps my optimistic hope of you into the
dumpster. I would have thought you'd learn by now (after
seven years) to be a civil human being in here...not acting
like some god of radio issuing Commandments on What To Do
and How To Do It.

"Neophyte?"

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you now "defining" AMATEUR radio as some sort of trade,
craft, or guild that requires "years of experience" in
order to be a true "professional amateur?" :-)


Amateur radio and its activities are NO SECRET.

No, they aren't. That makes it even more peculiar that a guy with those
decades of interest in amateur radio couldn't have taken the logical
step of acting upon that interest.

Tsk, tsk, you REDEFINE "interst" into some sort of FANATICISM!


Actually, you (the non-radio amateur) seemed to be telling me what to
do.

Tsk, tsk, I wouldn't attempt the impossible! :-)

You aren't in control of my actions on or off the air, Len. I'll
do as I please. You may do as you can.

I "may?" Oh, thank you, thank you, Your Emminance!

Your kind and gentle condescension is so warm!


I'm bound and determined to show you up as the clay-footed pretender
that you are.

Now, now, you are getting all snarly again... :-)


You are NOT a god of radio who
can tell others what to like, dislike, desire, hate, or be
involved in...but you sincerely TRY to do that...

I thought I'd already pointed out the fact that I've never claimed to be
a god of radio, Len.

Tsk, tsk, and now you've gone and made a hypocrite of yourself!

Remember...you just wrote "I may do as I can?" :-)

Your Emminance, your aura of radiance is blinding. Turn it
down a bit, please...


You don't have to like amateur radio. You don't have to dislike amateur
radio. You don't have to desire amateur radio. You don't have to hate
amateur radio. You certainly don't have to be involved in amateur
radio.

Wow! A THIRD Tablet brought down from some burning Bush!

You are one step ahead of Moses! :-)


You aren't here in the cozy lodge hall, Len.

True, the Burbank Elks Club Lodge Hall is being rebuilt (it is on
Hollywood Way near Bob Hope Airport in Burbank, CA).

You're doomed to spend your days on the outside looking in.

Well, YES, until it is finished and inspected. Until then,
unless I am employed by the contractor, I can't go in there.



All I do is state what so many
licensed radio amateurs DO, act like, behave.

You don't even know "many" licensed radio amateurs.

Only a few dozen personally. :-)

However, it is easy to read the opinions of hundreds more in the
public forums available for viewing on the Internet. :-)

Hams aren't about to kow-tow to the likes of you.

Sorry, Herr Moses II, I've not been up on any mountain
and lugging down tablets of Commandments.

[your tablets are giving me a headache...it should be the
other way around...]

Some of those
are simply assholes who think their feces emits no odor.
David, you act like one of those.

Maybe you can find a hobby more to your liking--one in which the
long-time participants will hang on your every word.

In other words, you "feel threatened" by my presence in
here? :-)

Or are you implying you are already "so well hung" that
you resent others pointing out your "short-comings?" :-)

Gosh, Herr Robust, you swing wildly on your Sermons on the
Antenna Mount in here! Seems like you are telling me to
"shut up!" :-)



Having been granted a federal AMATEUR radio license is NOT some
grant to be of better moral or ethical status than anyone else.

Moral or ethical status? What are you prattling on about?

That was in YOUR Sermon! :-)



You haven't got one.

I'm not involved with food products and try to avoid contact
with swine. However, sometimes contact with swine is just
unavoidable. :-)

Like, when your gnawing on a pork chop?

Tsk, tsk, improper use of a contraction...as in "you're" rather
than the "your" you wrote. Please use apostrophes properly.

Move your vowels every day or you'll get consonated.



I don't think of you as a "word-enemy" or "message knuckle", Len. I
prefer to think of you as a horse's patoot.

As a "superior" god of radio, I'm sure you consider yourself
above needs of civility in conversing with ordinary mortals.
Therefore, you feel free to insult, demean, and say nasty to
anyone who doesn't agree with you. shrug

One more example of today's USA "superior" radio amateur, a
role model of behavior for all to emulate...




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From: on Jan 20, 4:20 pm

On 20 Jan 2006 15:00:20 -0800, wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Fri, Jan 20 2006 6:11 am
wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Thurs, Jan 19 2006 7:43 am
wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Jan 18, 8:26 pm
wrote:

cut

You may be "interested" in obtaining a pilot's license.

Not now. I once was, but the cost of aircraft ownership was
prohibitive then, still is. :-)

You may tell
anyone on the planet that you have an interest in obtaining a pilot's
license.

Why must I tell "everyone?" :-)

or anyone

You may even do so for decades.
cut

You may haunt a pilot's newsgroup.

I don't.

But you don't become a pilot until you obtain the license.

Untrue. Only to be a LEGAL pilot, Herr Robust.

I really don't know WHY you introduce this NON-subject into
an amateur radio policy newsgroup, Herr Robust. You are
venturing far afield from the general subject matter.

Sorry lLen I have to call you on that
you know exactly why Dave is doing this

Well, true enough, Mark...but I have to be KIND to the
old man. He IS a "superior" amateur, you see (by
his own description)...:-)

he has nothing of value to say and so is resorting to bloviation to
try to confuse the unwary

He doesn't confuse me, he doesn't confuse you, and probably
doesn't confuse anyone else. Just himself in thinking he had
some kind of sharp retort by that "analogy." :-)

Well, now Herr Robust is going to get all hissy-fitting again
and send a very lonnnnnng reply full of nastygram remarks.

SOP :-)

On 20 Jan 2006 18:07:21 -0800, wrote:

From: on Jan 20, 4:20 pm

On 20 Jan 2006 15:00:20 -0800, wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Fri, Jan 20 2006 6:11 am
wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Thurs, Jan 19 2006 7:43 am
wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Jan 18, 8:26 pm
wrote:

cut
Untrue. Only to be a LEGAL pilot, Herr Robust.

I really don't know WHY you introduce this NON-subject into
an amateur radio policy newsgroup, Herr Robust. You are
venturing far afield from the general subject matter.

Sorry lLen I have to call you on that
you know exactly why Dave is doing this

Well, true enough, Mark...but I have to be KIND to the
old man. He IS a "superior" amateur, you see (by
his own description)...:-)

you are far kidier to him than he deserves

BTW did you read going about how he says I say you lie about me, I
think he worked himself off that deep finaly

he has nothing of value to say and so is resorting to bloviation to
try to confuse the unwary

He doesn't confuse me, he doesn't confuse you, and probably
doesn't confuse anyone else. Just himself in thinking he had
some kind of sharp retort by that "analogy." :-)

Oh He confuses me some I'll give hi his due. It is confusing to look
sucha prefromance and imagine that there is a life from at the other
end

Well, now Herr Robust is going to get all hissy-fitting again
and send a very lonnnnnng reply full of nastygram remarks.

SOP :-)



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On 18 Jan 2006 22:49:14 -0800, wrote in
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From: Dave Heil on Jan 18, 8:26 pm

wrote:

Poseurs DO have that problem..."tripping the light fantastic"
all the time.

You have a point, Leonard.

One example would be your involvement in amateur radio.

CAN'T YOU GET ANYTHING RIGHT, DAVID D#######?

Obviously NOT, judging by trotting out that old sway-backed
"involvement" nonsense. Amateurism is NOT a closed
community. There are only the close-minded individuals in
amateur radio who imagine themselves gods of radio.

Listen UP, David.....


Ditto. And I gotta add my two pieces of zinc:

You don't need a license to build a receiver. You don't need a license
to listen to shortwave broadcasts; or to work a CB or FRS radio; or to
get a station's card (I have hundreds); or to transmit on most of the
spectrum with very low power; or to design and build a band-specific
antenna on a tower; or to study and learn radio fundamentals; or even
to transmit from a licensed amateur station provided it is supervised
by the station's licensee. You don't need a license to be an amateur.
Even as a PROFESSIONAL in the field of radio I didn't need a license.
Basically, the only thing an Amateur Radio License grants you is the
ability to transmit at power levels greater than those specified in
Part 15. Every other aspect of amateur radio communication can be done
-WITHOUT A LICENSE-. The sooner these sooper-dooper hambos realize
this little factoid the better.










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