"Woody" wrote in message
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I agree.
rb

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On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:19:25 GMT, "Woody" wrote:

Um.... you know, just saying "I agree" would have been a lot simpler and
saved you 2 pages of typing.... LOL.
rb
len likes to carry on

as is his right
http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/


He has delusions of grandeur.
http://www.marksspamblog.blogspot.com/

Cecil Moore wrote:
wrote:
Tsk, just because NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, FOX, ESPN, and PBS haven't
covered the tremendously fantastic wonderfullest huge contribution
to saving lives and property via ham radio?

At http://www.drudgereport.com/flash4.htm is a news story
about two Boy Scouts saving an 18 month old little girl
from drowning. Instead of using verbal communications, how
about a parable about how those Boy Scouts could have
chosen to use Morse Code?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

People make fun of Scouts. Democrats at the National Convention Boo'd
the Boy Scouts when they posted the flag and said the Pledge of
Allegiance. Some people even make unfounded accusations of pedophilia
when they learn that someone is a Scout leader.

Scouts learn life saving. Some scouts even learn Morse Code. It's all
good.

wrote:
On 22 Aug 2006 19:18:13 -0700, wrote:


K4YZ wrote:

Ninety-nine percent of Lennie's post was about anythig OTHER than
AMATEUR RADIO, Morkie.

GMDSS is NOT Amateur Radio.

SOLAS is NOT Amateur Radio.

Lennie Anderson is NOT Amateur Radio.

Steve, K4YZ

MARS is NOT Amateur Radio.
and for that matter CW is not the whole of Ham Radio

Didit!

From: on Tues, Aug 22 2006 7:14 pm


wrote:
From: on Mon, Aug 21 2006 6:30 pm
wrote:
From: an old friend on Mon, Aug 21 2006 3:16 pm
wrote:
From: on Sun, Aug 20 2006 2:57 pm


Robesin is merely a product of the "incentive" licensing
system where all those who hunger for being a "somebody"
can get a Title - Rank - Privilege through a singular skill.

If it doesn't have rank or a uniform, Robesin isn't interested.

That certainly seems the case. The "uniform" is his
emperor's new clothes...

I didn't make that system, neither did you, neither did
anyone in these four forums. The FCC took a big chunk out
of it (license classes and morsemanship skill) with the
Restructuring of 2000 and that ****ed off the Title-Rank-
Status seekers. Devout morsemen are angry and venting steam
because their self-esteem has fallen.

Only in their minds. They are the very same good or bad hams that they
were with all the layers of hamdom.

All of those "layers" hams are examples to the general public,
good or bad or indifferent. So?

"Self-esteem" is a nice-nice word for EGO tied in with self-
perception. Trying to represent themselves as "expert" radio
persons in this new millennium is a rather stupid idea of those
devout morsepersons when they want to force the FCC to keep the
code test.

Those who LIKE morse code should, and can, go on using it. That
is in no sense any validity for making it an amateur radio test
requirement for a license.


Simply amazing. EIGHTEEN years alleged on active duty and
he can't supply a single photo or document to support his
claim? In November of this year I can truthfully say I've
been in the southern California aerospace business 50 years.
I have all sorts of documentation and photos on that which
I may fully digitize some day (some are already digitized).
Some time ago I posted my resume in here...which only made
Robesin ballistic then since he has NO comparable
experience in industry and cannot prove any radio experience
other than amateur and alleged "chief operator" status at
some small MARS station long ago. [that was before his
less-than-a-half-year as a purchasing agent at a small
set top box maker]

Yet as "chief operator" or ANCOIC of NMC MARS on Okinawa, he remains
woefully ignorant of MARS. I just don't get it.

It's easy to "get." He wasn't what he says he was. He hasn't
supplied a single bit of evidence to prove his claims.


In another recent post, Robesin keeps referring to a "CV."
That's an acronym for the Latin 'curriculum vitae,' a list
of life experiences (education, work experience).

Maybe he meant "constant velocity" as in "CV joints" because he's
always "spun up" about one thing or another.

He tries to "spin" his claims to be the truth. Still no
evidence presented.

Robesin used the wrong word/acronym for a RESUME' presented
as part of an interview for a job.

Robesin an academic? Not in this lifetime.

It's just his inappropriate use of what to him are important sounding
words and acronyms.

Some of those he makes up as he goes along.

The rec.radio newsgroups have showcased Robesin. He HAS earned his
reputation. He's worked very hard for it.

He's hardly worked in radio.

From: Cecil Moore on Wed, Aug 23 2006 6:38 am

wrote:
Tsk, just because NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, FOX, ESPN, and PBS haven't
covered the tremendously fantastic wonderfullest huge contribution
to saving lives and property via ham radio?

At http://www.drudgereport.com/flash4.htm is a news story
about two Boy Scouts saving an 18 month old little girl
from drowning.

Okay, I suppose that is a nice story. If one accepts the
"Drudge Report" as journalism. It's a BLOG.

Instead of using verbal communications, how
about a parable about how those Boy Scouts could have
chosen to use Morse Code?

Your question is unconnected to your first sentence.

How does one "use morse code" to save a drowning
child? Why would they do that if they were in close
proximity?

Please tell us why it is SO important to be "correct"
on details of the Titanic disaster that happened 94
years ago?

I asked another in here who-what-why-where-when of
amateur radio saving any lives via morse code. That
hasn't been answered yet. Maybe you can supply the
details?

Al Klein wrote:
Really? You can write a spoken language you don't understand well
enough to be read by someone who understands it? Maybe. Maybe not.
In CW, you can.

Spanish words are easy to write even if one doesn't
understand them. In general, unlike English, there
is usually only one possible way to pronounce and to
spell a Spanish word. You hear "a-di-os". You write
a-d-i-o-s. You don't need to know what it means.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

wrote:
From: on Tues, Aug 22 2006 7:14 pm


wrote:
From: on Mon, Aug 21 2006 6:30 pm
wrote:
From: an old friend on Mon, Aug 21 2006 3:16 pm
wrote:
From: on Sun, Aug 20 2006 2:57 pm


Robesin is merely a product of the "incentive" licensing
system where all those who hunger for being a "somebody"
can get a Title - Rank - Privilege through a singular skill.

If it doesn't have rank or a uniform, Robesin isn't interested.

That certainly seems the case. The "uniform" is his
emperor's new clothes...

Lessee. He's got a Marine uniform (he says). A Tennessee State Guard
uniform (whatever that is), an ill-fitting Air Force CAP flight suit
uniform, and a male nurses uniform. And he has lots of military medals
that he never earned (according to him).

You know, whenever I saw folks in the CAP uniform at any Air Force
Base, including Maxwell, they work the 4b or Class A. Never ever saw a
CAP in a flight suit before robesin's well advertised home page.

I didn't make that system, neither did you, neither did
anyone in these four forums. The FCC took a big chunk out
of it (license classes and morsemanship skill) with the
Restructuring of 2000 and that ****ed off the Title-Rank-
Status seekers. Devout morsemen are angry and venting steam
because their self-esteem has fallen.

Only in their minds. They are the very same good or bad hams that they
were with all the layers of hamdom.

All of those "layers" hams are examples to the general public,
good or bad or indifferent. So?

"Self-esteem" is a nice-nice word for EGO tied in with self-
perception. Trying to represent themselves as "expert" radio
persons in this new millennium is a rather stupid idea of those
devout morsepersons when they want to force the FCC to keep the
code test.

Some do. Some don't. robesin does.

Those who LIKE morse code should, and can, go on using it.

Roger.

That
is in no sense any validity for making it an amateur radio test
requirement for a license.

No valid reason to maintain it as a barrier to the ARS.

Simply amazing. EIGHTEEN years alleged on active duty and
he can't supply a single photo or document to support his
claim? In November of this year I can truthfully say I've
been in the southern California aerospace business 50 years.
I have all sorts of documentation and photos on that which
I may fully digitize some day (some are already digitized).
Some time ago I posted my resume in here...which only made
Robesin ballistic then since he has NO comparable
experience in industry and cannot prove any radio experience
other than amateur and alleged "chief operator" status at
some small MARS station long ago. [that was before his
less-than-a-half-year as a purchasing agent at a small
set top box maker]

Yet as "chief operator" or ANCOIC of NMC MARS on Okinawa, he remains
woefully ignorant of MARS. I just don't get it.

It's easy to "get." He wasn't what he says he was. He hasn't
supplied a single bit of evidence to prove his claims.

Now it all makes sense.

In another recent post, Robesin keeps referring to a "CV."
That's an acronym for the Latin 'curriculum vitae,' a list
of life experiences (education, work experience).

Maybe he meant "constant velocity" as in "CV joints" because he's
always "spun up" about one thing or another.

He tries to "spin" his claims to be the truth. Still no
evidence presented.

Robesin used the wrong word/acronym for a RESUME' presented
as part of an interview for a job.

Thought he had a "killer" job as a male nurse?

Robesin an academic? Not in this lifetime.

It's just his inappropriate use of what to him are important sounding
words and acronyms.

Some of those he makes up as he goes along.

Probably how his career in the Marines was invented.

The rec.radio newsgroups have showcased Robesin. He HAS earned his
reputation. He's worked very hard for it.

He's hardly worked in radio.

Oh, I don't know. After a hard day behind the microphone, he's got
that 1,000 yard stare.

wrote:
From: Cecil Moore on Wed, Aug 23 2006 6:38 am

Instead of using verbal communications, how
about a parable about how those Boy Scouts could have
chosen to use Morse Code?

Your question is unconnected to your first sentence.

How does one "use morse code" to save a drowning
child? Why would they do that if they were in close
proximity?

Darn those Cell Phones! A cell phone was used to call paramedics, not
a code key.

Please tell us why it is SO important to be "correct"
on details of the Titanic disaster that happened 94
years ago?

I asked another in here who-what-why-where-when of
amateur radio saving any lives via morse code. That
hasn't been answered yet.

Nor will it be.

Maybe you can supply the
details?



Cecil can't. Cecil tried to appease the morse jihadists a while back
by joining in their rrap cw net. In the end, they still can't stand
his views on morse testing.

wrote:
wrote:
From: an old friend on Mon, Aug 21 2006 3:16 pm
wrote:
From: on Sun, Aug 20 2006 2:57 pm


It's "minority rule" when ARRL lobbies for preservation of
morse code test for any amateur radio license class. The
ARRL membership is slightly less than a quarter of all US
amateur radio licensees.

The ARRL is trying to soften their image - the latest QST shows a
person using a, gulp, microphone on the FRONT cover!

Good grief! The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

It may be for some.

Just inside is yet another article on building a code key - from a door
hinge.

Oh, goody...HIGH TECH construction article.

They didn't mention wether you should use oil or conductive grease on
the hinge.

Would they follow that with another article on the door itself?
Like, I mean, making the door a jar? :-)

Wow! We almost leaped from a door hinge to a jar head.

Ahem...my reference was the old fairy tale, "The Emperor's New
Clothes." :-)

That's the one where a full-of-himself ruler ordered some new
clothes and the tailor buttered him up (while not sewing any
new clothes) so much that the Emperor bought into this pandering
to his ego and appeared in public with his "new clothes" (he was
naked). Needless to say, the public laughed and laughed at this
ridiculous spectacle. :-)

Robeson has been all full of himself in here about his alleged
"USMC service" yet he has presented zero-point-zero evidence
from anyone else (or any legitimate agency) that he ever
served on active USMC duty for any of his claimed "18 years."

Even though he NOW thinks of himself AS the amateur radio
service personified (anything against him is somehow against
ALL radio amateurs), he is still parodying the "Emperor."

This just in from The ARRL Letter, Vol. 25, No. 33, August 18, 2006

"ARRL First Vice President Kay Craigie, N3KN, represented the League at the
Global Amateur Radio Emergency Communications Conference 2006."

"Craigie stressed that Amateur Radio needs to avoid "being dazzled by our
own press clippings into thinking that we are the big dog in emergency
telecommunications.""

She refers to robesin-like attitudes within the ARS.

Oh. My. God. ! ! !

Tsk, just because NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, FOX, ESPN, and PBS haven't
covered the tremendously fantastic wonderfullest huge contribution
to saving lives and property via ham radio? Gosh, there are all
sorts of clippings from obscure weekly and biweekly newspapers
dutifully cut-and-pasted into messages here from Robesin & Co.

And probably at least as credible as the rest of the news they carry.

Maybe I'll have to write the Department of Defense and say that
"Major" Robesin said that radio amateurs run MARS!

He did.

They should
fortwith cease and desist publishing DoD Directives on thinking
that they started it and keep running it!

They live in a fantasy world.

Maybe I missed the "news" on the Home and Garden Channel...I don't
watch that much...

Right and all the other radio services are switching to morse
code for all emergency communications a la ham radio

The American Public would sue them for slow service and wrongful
deaths.

...the sky
has truly fallen!

The other shoe would drop.

didit!

Dahdah comrade. :-)



bb

On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 02:32:01 GMT, Cecil Moore
wrote:

Al Klein wrote:
Really? You can write a spoken language you don't understand well
enough to be read by someone who understands it? Maybe. Maybe not.
In CW, you can.

Spanish words are easy to write even if one doesn't
understand them.

Ever try taking dictation at 100wpm spoken speed in a foreign
language? I have. Even in one I understand, it's difficult. In one
I don't understand it's impossible. Maybe you're better than I am.

In general, unlike English, there
is usually only one possible way to pronounce and to
spell a Spanish word. You hear "a-di-os". You write
a-d-i-o-s. You don't need to know what it means.

When it's spoken very quickly and in a panic, it's more like
"adhyose". Understandable, if weird looking, to a Spaniard. Try some
other languages, though - those you've never heard spoken before. See
how well you do. Then see how well you do in CW ... oh, you already
know that, don't you? -.-. is the same, whether it's hard, soft or
unpronounced. Whether you put a cedilla on it or not, a Spaniard will
understand it. So will a Turk, even though it sounds more like - -.-.
But would you write "Con" for something that sounds like Tchonn?