wrote:
I own one or two old Panasonic tape recorders,I dont know what the model
numbers are,I would have to hunt them up out of my piles of junk and
see.I see one at the Goodwill store every once in a while.Maybe I will
start a collection of them.
cuhulin

If one of them are the RR-DR60 model, you'd have a goldmine.

The first night I conducted an EVP experiment, I used an old photograph
from the 1800s and a genuine 1920s William Fuld Ouija board as the
backdrop. I lit some candles and asked for communication (I have never
gotten a Ouija board to work, am not sensitive to spirits in any way,
and cannot be hypnotized). I made some recordings and got a melodic
humming voice of a woman (in the photo was an unknown woman holding her
baby). On the second recording I asked who did the humming, "Was that
you?", and a deep (almost demonic) sounding voice said, "It was."

This startled me so much that I stopped all experiments until I moved
to a new town and met a lot of people at the steakhouse where I work
who were interesting in conducting paranormal experiments. I finally
met a guy who has been my fellow researcher and best friend and we've
uncovered some amazing results which are still nowhere near a peak. It
is because of these results that I feel it best to start passing on our
techniques to others who are interested, in hopes of opening up their
minds to the possibilities of EVP and ITC.

However, be forewarned... a lot depends on your resonance (vibrational
rate) - if you are using drugs, are disturbed, or are in a negative
mindset, you tend to resonate with more negative spirits (which are
closer to this plane of existence, as opposed to the astral beings
which are higher up with a higher vibrational rate). I must admit that
the spirits which followed me back from the cemetery were of this
mindset and made many threats, countless vulgarity, and so on. A girl
who came with us to the cemetery had a panic attack and nearly had to
go to the hospital. Weeks later she was exorcised, though I was not
present and can't truly say whether she had a demonic presence
surrounding her. Chances are (if it was not something in her own mind)
it was a negative spirit which latched onto her (she was deeply
Christian yet interested in the paranormal). I have only seen her once
since moving to Daytona to a church camp.

When she came by one evening I played for her and her boyfriend's
sister (who is sensitive) the tapes at the cemetery the night she had
the panic attack. Almost simultaneously, my disabled ADT alarm started
sounding flashing the "Trouble" light. This bothered me since the alarm
was fully non-functional and I had even broken into my own house before
after losing my key without the alarm sounding. It has never again done
that, and this was over 6 months ago.

Anyway, I could type a book about my experiments which seemed to bring
on questionable events (even more startling since I am not sensitive -
I use this electronic equipment as my eyes and ears, though I still
feel that I'm wondering around in a darkened room without a
flashlight).

I hope some of this helps. Good luck on your endeavour if you feel you
should pursue it. I highly recommend at least a few experiments - just
experiment at a healthy dose and don't go to abandoned cemeteries
unless you really want to invite negativity back to your home.

Jeff

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wrote:
I once heard someone on c to c (the coast to coast KOOK show) say they
put a new cassette tape in a cassette recorder and with no body in the
room or nearby and no radio or tv turned on,he picked up some human
voices on his tape recorder.Of course I dont believe that hogwash.
cuhulin

EVP experiments have been quite substantiated in laboratory settings.
Before dismissing something as "hogwash" why don't you try for
yourself? Simply make a 30-second recording with preferably a digital
recorder (that way you don't try to explain away the voices by thinking
the cassette tape was previously recorded on or the magnetic silica
that make up the tape are somehow picking up stray radio broadcasts)
and ask some simple questions.

It's best to do it with a small bit of white noise in the background -
if you're worried about rectification from your scanner or radio, try a
TV station full of static with the antenna unplugged, or a ceiling fan,
etc. Then upload the recording and amplify the sound a little
(amplification in no way alters the recording, only makes the voices
easier to decipher).

We've picked up so many EVPs that EVP itself is now boring and a
dead-end of sorts. Hence the need to set up apparatus for 2-way radio
communication using tones being sent to various frequencies (the
original Spiricom experment used 29.570 MHz), then waiting for days,
months, or even years until you get that first contact. It's more about
patience than believing, because once you do pick up the voices, you
will certainly question the reality you live in.

Jeff

PS The Panasonic RR-DR60 recorder was yanked from the market because of
consumer complaints about unexplained voices showing up during business
meetings, etc. It became the Holy Grail of EVP recorders, and recently
had a bid of $1100 for a used recorder on eBay.

It retailed for $40.


How do you normally prepare yourself for the experiment. Sniff glue?
Mushrooms? Lick a toad? LSD?

SC

email George Noory at www.coasttocoastam.com Tell him you are
going to send him a Ouija Board.I did that about four years ago.He
emailed me back,he said, Noooooooooooooooo
cuhulin

wrote:


- just experiment at a healthy dose and don't go to abandoned
cemeteries unless you really want to invite negativity back to your
home.

Now this is indeed puzzling. Why would going to a cemetery, abandoned or
otherwise, bring "negativity" back to your home?

Is -everyone- buried there a bad person? Weren't any good people buried
there too? If there are "spirits", are you implying that they are all bad?

wrote:

For a control, do a separate recording of the frequency without
plugging it through the scanner. For some reason the voices that appear
through the scanner are more monotone, and the ones in the room with
the scanner used as background noise are more dimensional in nature.

Please, I really am confused as to why the spirits would dick around
with scanners, white noise, RF, de-noiser software and all that
technical mumbo-jumbo.

How did "the spirits" ever get by before tape recorders and scanners?

If "the spirits" are so technically savvy, why can't they figure out how
to just whisper in your ear?

wrote:

It's also interesting that nobody has asked me to listen to the
clearest voices. It would be impossible to convince you of their
paranormal origin because I'd be asking you to change your belief
system over something you've never researched or tried yourself.

No, it's not that. It's just that the "evidence chain" has not been
properly controlled and it is just too easy to fake a recording. Mind
you, I am not saying that you would do such a thing, but to us, just
listening, would have no idea who recorded what we were listening to.

If it's possible to show a film of Forrest Gump (a fictional character)
shaking hands with JFK (a real character), it's not too big of a stretch
to legitimately question how a voice got on an audio tape.

Your explanations sound good in theory, but do not explain how some
EVPs show up so loud that they are not just an auditory hallucination
of the white noise. Some are actually louder than my *own* voice asking
questions on the tape. Of course the accent was so thick that people
can't decide on what exactly it's saying,

"Loud" has nothing to do with paranormal. Loud is simply a function of
the strength of the RF signal and how well modulated it is. Just as an
example, there could be a foreign speaking taxi driver near by with his
CB and linear amplifier. (You said in an earlier post that you had some
kind of radio on 29 point something MHz. This is the CB band, and we all
know there are a lot of barnyard and/or strange noises/voices on CB). ;-)

My little doggy kisses my right ear (sometimes my left ear) when she
needs to go out in the front yard.Is she a spirit? When she croaks,will
I be ''hearing voices'' from her grave? She really can say my Larry
name.
cuhulin

One Hung Low wrote:

b) P.T. Barnum was right! There is indeed a sucker born every minute.


http://www.historybuff.com/library/refbarnum.html





mike

One Hung Low wrote:

Now this is indeed puzzling. Why would going to a cemetery, abandoned or
otherwise, bring "negativity" back to your home?

Is -everyone- buried there a bad person? Weren't any good people buried
there too? If there are "spirits", are you implying that they are all bad?

I am speaking from personal experience and the experience of the dozen
or so people who went with me. Panic attacks, paranoia, threatening
voices on recordings, etc. I've gone to other well-kept cemeteries and
did not pick up *any* voices. But yet a vandalized old black cemetery
with open holes in crypts, dug up graves, mounds of sand marking
graves, etc., seemed to produce so many voices many were speaking on
top of each other. Sometimes in one 10-second recording over 5 voices
could be identified.

Why would there be so many voices in one cemetery, but not others? Why
would my house then have so many voices on recordings when before going
to this cemetery it did not? Why have people told me they have sensed
spirits at my house? Why are some people so scared they have to urinate
outside the house rather than go into the guest bathroom? Why has one
of my relatives (since these experiments begun) actually see a misty
presence of a woman in a brand new house (she has never witnessed a
ghost before and has no reason to lie about what she saw). This is just
the tip of the iceberg, yet none of this occurred *before* going to
this cemetery.

Of course, all of this can be explained away. You can also either
explain away the moon landing as a hoax or say it really happened ...
two theories yet only one reality. You base yours on lack of experience
with this sort of thing ... I base mine on what I and others have
witnessed firsthand. Why don't you just spend some time experimenting
on your own instead of assuming that all my experiences are irrevelant?

I'm not here to argue the afterlife. I only came here to try to come to
another conclusion (for the peace of mind) that would explain these
weird events, and so far (brain/pattern or AM stations) have led to
more doubt than plausibility.

Jeff

One Hung Low wrote:

Please, I really am confused as to why the spirits would dick around
with scanners, white noise, RF, de-noiser software and all that
technical mumbo-jumbo.

Brilliant minds have often had trouble communicating their ideas to
others. But that's another story. Considering spirits are made up of
energy, they obviously need energy to communicate and implant their
voices onto our equipment. One of the most brilliant minds ever, Thomas
Edison, along with Marconi, Crookes, and many of the greatest
scientists of the 20th century all believed it was possible to
communicate with the dead through radio. I think any one of them would
be smarter than most everyone in this group, and they obviously had a
good reason to believe this was possible. The first EVPs showed up in
the 1920s. Science has had all that time to explain them away, only
more and more evidence is showing up to discount traditional theories.

How did "the spirits" ever get by before tape recorders and scanners?

The way some of them still do - dreams, materialization (which happened
to my relative), automatic writing, even some seances, and direct
voice.

If "the spirits" are so technically savvy, why can't they figure out how
to just whisper in your ear?

Many of them do - but that would involve someone who is sensitive. Why
do many sensitives belong to the same genetic traits and families? Some
day a "sensitive/psychic gene" will be discovered. There are also a lot
of equipment which picks up different forms of energy and radiation -
radio waves, x-rays, UV light, etc. - yet you don't hear radio waves
until they're picked up on your equipment. Who's to say spirits aren't
energy which can only be picked up in our current 3-dimensional world
by people of a different genetic background, dreams, and certain
electronic equipment? Seeing isn't necessarily believing, and believing
is almost never seeing. It's what lies within, not on the pages of some
science textbook.

Jeff