On Feb 19, 1:45?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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I have no idea, how Univision could put up with someone, who spends
24/7 on message boards, or maybe he doesn't even work.

I don't know how long it takes you to think through a brief response, but if
I sepnd 30 minutes a day on Usenet, that's a lot. Last I checked, most
people have 2/3 of the day and all the weekend free to do whatever they
want... or about 128 hours of free time a week.

His sole
existence in life is to try and make others miserable

... no, only to those who post material that is not factual, such as your
mistaken claims that AM news / talk stations get higher rates than FMs or
that AM in general is prospering.

- this IBOC
shill would love to put an end to SW and AM DX'ers, to the sole gain
of HD Radio/IBOC.

This is the first time SW has come into0 the argument. I think SW of its own
is dead in most of the world, and is certainly, being skywave based, not an
apprpriate medium for HD.

AM DXers are now very few in number, and hardly have any claim to skywave
service when improving hte viability of AM at the local level is concerned.
Hey, it's a hobby, not an essential service.

To his displeasure, SW and analog AM will be around
for many years,

SW stations numbber perhaps half of the level of the 70's...

AM is dying. In Canada, they have reduced the station count by nearly 60%.
South Africa has no AMs left, etc. The listenership in the US dis down to a
small level, mostly composed of people over 50. Folks under 40 very nearly
do not listen at all to AM.

as HD Radio/IBOC is failing on AM, and will just end
up being a niche market for radio-geeks.

Actually, the viable metro signals will all be HD. It does not matter what
the marginal signals do, as they represent no listenership.

Here is an interesting on-
going poll by BMW owners, who are interested in buying either Sirius,
or HD Radio:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=152874

This shill realizes that for HD Radio/IBOC to succeed, in part, he
needs to convince the radio-geeks - you would think by now, with all
the hatred towards IBOC, he would have gotten a clue. He spreads the
sames lies on radio-info.com.

HD was just launched in 2006... and we all believe it to be a multi-year
building process, not a quick fix. It may never fix AM, however, as the band
is nearly dead.



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Yea shill, the AM band is so dead:

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?state...2=&EW=W&size=9

I must admit, I have never seen anyone so full-of-**** ! :-)

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Yea shill, the AM band is so dead:

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?state...2=&EW=W&size=9

I must admit, I have never seen anyone so full-of-**** ! :-)

You totally miss the main point: AM is declining in audience in the US,
having less than 20% of what it had 40 years ago... Most AMs have an
audience significantly based in over-55-year-olds, which agency advertisers
do not want. Revenues are falling, and many successful AMs are looking to
move their formats to FM to survive.

Canada is eliminating all but a few AMs, and at least one province has no
AMs at all any more. South Africa has no AMs. Most of Latin America has
fewer AMs than 25 years ago, with the exception of Mexico which was always
under-radioed due to NARBA.

The share of listening by 12-34 year olds given to AM is less than 8%....
with 92% and over going to FM.

On Feb 19, 5:54 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

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Yea shill, the AM band is so dead:

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?state...freq=530&fre2=...

I must admit, I have never seen anyone so full-of-**** ! :-)

You totally miss the main point: AM is declining in audience in the US,
having less than 20% of what it had 40 years ago... Most AMs have an
audience significantly based in over-55-year-olds, which agency advertisers
do not want. Revenues are falling, and many successful AMs are looking to
move their formats to FM to survive.

Canada is eliminating all but a few AMs, and at least one province has no
AMs at all any more. South Africa has no AMs. Most of Latin America has
fewer AMs than 25 years ago, with the exception of Mexico which was always
under-radioed due to NARBA.

DE - NARBA ? ? ? ~ RHF
North American Radio Broadcasting Agreement -Cirica 1941-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_A...ting_Agreement

NARBA "Clear Channel" AM/MW Radio Stations
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_channel

AM/MW Station Classes : Clear, Regional, and Local Channels
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/amclasses.html

BIG USA, Mexico, and Canadian AM/MW Radio Stations
-compiled by- AC6V
http://www.ac6v.com/clearam.htm

MAP - Night-Time AM/MW 50 KW Powerhouses in the USA
http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/bl...rp/amradio.htm

READ - AM Radio Station Info : Radio-Locator + FCC +
Where's That Station + AM {Medium Wave} DXing +
Prime Time Shortwave + NASWA WWW Shortwave
Listening Guide and a lot more . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...34e3c158b06fa5

and now i know ~ RHF

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On Feb 19, 5:54 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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Yea shill, the AM band is so dead:

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?state...freq=530&fre2=...

I must admit, I have never seen anyone so full-of-**** ! :-)

You totally miss the main point: AM is declining in audience in the US,
having less than 20% of what it had 40 years ago... Most AMs have an
audience significantly based in over-55-year-olds, which agency
advertisers
do not want. Revenues are falling, and many successful AMs are looking to
move their formats to FM to survive.

Canada is eliminating all but a few AMs, and at least one province has no
AMs at all any more. South Africa has no AMs. Most of Latin America has
fewer AMs than 25 years ago, with the exception of Mexico which was
always
under-radioed due to NARBA.

DE - NARBA ? ? ? ~ RHF
North American Radio Broadcasting Agreement -Cirica 1941-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_A...ting_Agreement

NARBA "Clear Channel" AM/MW Radio Stations
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_channel

AM/MW Station Classes : Clear, Regional, and Local Channels
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/amclasses.html

BIG USA, Mexico, and Canadian AM/MW Radio Stations
-compiled by- AC6V
http://www.ac6v.com/clearam.htm

MAP - Night-Time AM/MW 50 KW Powerhouses in the USA
http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/bl...rp/amradio.htm


Your point is? There are many 50 kw stations, but only a few are the
original 50 kw Class 1-A clears. and not all are news /talk, either. Many of
the remaining 50's are either directional, lower power at night or both...
many can not even cover their own full local market. A good example is the
former WTOP, a 50 kw AM in DC... that needed several AM and FM repeaters to
cover the DC market incompletely. They moved to FM last year, and are doing
much better now.

On Feb 19, 9:16 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message

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On Feb 19, 5:54 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

groups.com...

Yea shill, the AM band is so dead:

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?state...freq=530&fre2=...

I must admit, I have never seen anyone so full-of-**** ! :-)

You totally miss the main point: AM is declining in audience in the US,
having less than 20% of what it had 40 years ago... Most AMs have an
audience significantly based in over-55-year-olds, which agency
advertisers
do not want. Revenues are falling, and many successful AMs are looking to
move their formats to FM to survive.

Canada is eliminating all but a few AMs, and at least one province has no
AMs at all any more. South Africa has no AMs. Most of Latin America has
fewer AMs than 25 years ago, with the exception of Mexico which was
always
under-radioed due to NARBA.

DE - NARBA ? ? ? ~ RHF
North American Radio Broadcasting Agreement -Cirica 1941-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_A...ting_Agreement

NARBA "Clear Channel" AM/MW Radio Stations
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_channel

AM/MW Station Classes : Clear, Regional, and Local Channels
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/amclasses.html

BIG USA, Mexico, and Canadian AM/MW Radio Stations
-compiled by- AC6V
http://www.ac6v.com/clearam.htm

MAP - Night-Time AM/MW 50 KW Powerhouses in the USA
http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/bl...rp/amradio.htm

Your point is? There are many 50 kw stations, but only a few are the
original 50 kw Class 1-A clears. and not all are news /talk, either. Many of
the remaining 50's are either directional, lower power at night or both...
many can not even cover their own full local market. A good example is the
former WTOP, a 50 kw AM in DC... that needed several AM and FM repeaters to
cover the DC market incompletely. They moved to FM last year, and are doing
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DE - You used the acronym "NARBA" which was
something that did not cause me to think of the
"North American Radio Broadcasting Agreement"
After all I am only a Radio Listener and not in the
Broadcast Radio Business like you.

Again I will repeat myself by posting :

North American Radio Broadcasting Agreement -Cirica 1941-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_A...ting_Agreement

NARBA "Clear Channel" AM/MW Radio Stations
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_channel

BIG USA, Mexico, and Canadian AM/MW Radio Stations
-compiled by- AC6V = http://www.ac6v.com/clearam.htm

MAP - Night-Time AM/MW 50 KW Powerhouses in the USA
http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/bl...rp/amradio.htm

And the 'point' being . . . that back in 1941 AM Radio was "King".


those were the days of great coast-to-coast am radio ~ RHF

"RHF" wrote in message
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And the 'point' being . . . that back in 1941 AM Radio was "King".

those were the days of great coast-to-coast am radio ~ RHF
.

Yes, that was because there was no TV. There was only light usage of radio
in the daytime as most people had only one household radio, in the living
room. Portables and even car radios were not a factor.

Since the 50's, following the lift of the TV Freeze, the night listening to
radio has been much lower. Daytime listening became the key to radio
stations.

Today, 7 PM-Midnight listening is less than a third the level in morning
drive, mid-days or afternoons. Nearly no revenue is generated in the
evening, either.

So, with less than 1000 stations in 1941, listeners often had to listen to
distant signals at night to hear their favorite network programs. Today,
with 14,000 stations, few are far from a broad choice of signals. And the
comedies and drama shows are on TV, not rado. So nighttime distant reception
by the average listener has no benefit other than curiosity.

On Feb 20, 5:40 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message

oups.com...



And the 'point' being . . . that back in 1941 AM Radio was "King".

those were the days of great coast-to-coast am radio ~ RHF
.

Yes, that was because there was no TV. There was only light usage of radio
in the daytime as most people had only one household radio, in the living
room. Portables and even car radios were not a factor.

Since the 50's, following the lift of the TV Freeze, the night listening to
radio has been much lower. Daytime listening became the key to radio
stations.

Today, 7 PM-Midnight listening is less than a third the level in morning
drive, mid-days or afternoons. Nearly no revenue is generated in the
evening, either.

So, with less than 1000 stations in 1941, listeners often had to listen to
distant signals at night to hear their favorite network programs. Today,
with 14,000 stations, few are far from a broad choice of signals. And the
comedies and drama shows are on TV, not rado. So nighttime distant reception
by the average listener has no benefit other than curiosity.

Yes that was then in 1941, and Today {2007} In-the-Here-and-Now !
I have come to like the Artist and Music/Song Title feature on the
XM Satellete Radio - Hey Wasn't That ? - Wow I Was Right ! ) ~ RHF

QUESTION - Why the H*ll Don't the Spanish Language Radio
and TV Stations have English on the SAP Channel ?
i want to know ~ RHF