A Brown wrote:
Which is precisely the point. So far, only the technology has been
promoted. And the diverse 'out of the box' programming offerings have
not materialized as promised.
Sure they have, there's Jazz, 70's Folk, Chorale, Ethnic, Dance...There
are lots of formats available that are not available on the regular
broadcast band.

And not widely available on HD.

There are ALL available where I am.


Not whare I am. Nor where I've been so far this year.



Most HD channels I've heard, are dupes of the baseband audio,

That's the HD-1 channel. The HD-2 and HD-3, etc...channels can be anything
they want.


Can. Doesn't mean they are.



....with HD2 being a simulcast of an AM sister. The off beat programming
options simply haven't materialized as promised.

Sure they have. Wouldn't it be nice to be informed before making incorrect
statements?

If you live near a major city (and 85% of America lives within the top 15
markets) you have plenty of HD choices.


I live in Chicago. Big enough for you?

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
A Brown wrote:
Which is precisely the point. So far, only the technology has been
promoted. And the diverse 'out of the box' programming offerings have
not materialized as promised.
Sure they have, there's Jazz, 70's Folk, Chorale, Ethnic, Dance...There
are lots of formats available that are not available on the regular
broadcast band.

And not widely available on HD.

There are ALL available where I am.


Not whare I am. Nor where I've been so far this year.

You don't get out much.... BTW...You shouldn't make absolute judgements
only based on your own limited experiences.

Most HD channels I've heard, are dupes of the baseband audio,

That's the HD-1 channel. The HD-2 and HD-3, etc...channels can be
anything they want.

Can. Doesn't mean they are.

I just showed you they are. If you live near a Top 15 Moraket and 85% of
America does.

If you live near a major city (and 85% of America lives within the top 15
markets) you have plenty of HD choices.


I live in Chicago. Big enough for you?

Take a look!

(I don't see many "AM rebroadcasts"..some even have HD3 channels!)

WMBI:FM 90.1 Religion=HD1 / HD2=Praise Music / HD3=Kids!

WPWX: FM 92.3 Urban=HD1 / HD2=Classic Hip Hop;

WXRT: FM 93.1 Rock=HD1 / HD2=New Music

WLIT:FM 93.9 Adult contemporary=HD1 / HD2=Disco

WNUA:FM 95.5 Smooth Jazz=HD1 / HD2=Traditional Jazz

WERV:FM 95.9 Oldies=HD1 / HD2=Rapids (Whatever that is...)

WBBM:FM 96.3 Top 40=HD1 / HD2=Dance

WDRV:FM 97.1 Classic rock=HD1 / HD2=Deep Tracks

WLUP: FM 97.9 Rock=HD1 / HD2=Loop Loud

WUSN: FM 99.5 Country=HD1 / HD2=Future Country / HD-3 99.5-3 FM (Trucker!)

WILV: FM 100.3 Rhymic Oldies=HD1 / HD2=Love Songs

WKQX: FM 101.1 Alternative=HD1 / HD2=Alternative

WTMX: FM 101.9 Adult Contemporary=HD1 / HD2=80's;

WVAZ: FM 102.7 Urban=HD1 / HD2=Gospel;

WKSC: FM 103.5 Top 40=HD1 / HD2=Pride

WJMK: FM 104.3 Variety=HD1 / HD2=60's, 70's

WSRB: FM 106.3 R&B=HD1 / HD2=Soul;

WGCI: FM 107.5 Hip Hop R&B=HD1 /HD2=Old School Hip Hop


Maybe you should buy an HD radio and discover what's out there..instead of
parroting whatever negative information you may have heard.

A Brown wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
A Brown wrote:
Which is precisely the point. So far, only the technology has been
promoted. And the diverse 'out of the box' programming offerings have
not materialized as promised.
Sure they have, there's Jazz, 70's Folk, Chorale, Ethnic, Dance...There
are lots of formats available that are not available on the regular
broadcast band.

And not widely available on HD.
There are ALL available where I am.

Not whare I am. Nor where I've been so far this year.

You don't get out much.... BTW...You shouldn't make absolute judgements
only based on your own limited experiences.


Yeah, 38 states in 5 months. You're right, definitely a home body.




If you live near a major city (and 85% of America lives within the top 15
markets) you have plenty of HD choices.

I live in Chicago. Big enough for you?

Take a look!


Yes, I live here, remember?



(I don't see many "AM rebroadcasts"..some even have HD3 channels!)


You missed a few.

You also missed that many of these HD 2 and HD 3 channels are the
same playlist as other stations in the group.

There's not a lot of innovation here.

Certainly not a lot of alternatives.



WMBI:FM 90.1 Religion=HD1 / HD2=Praise Music / HD3=Kids!

WPWX: FM 92.3 Urban=HD1 / HD2=Classic Hip Hop;

WXRT: FM 93.1 Rock=HD1 / HD2=New Music

WLIT:FM 93.9 Adult contemporary=HD1 / HD2=Disco

WNUA:FM 95.5 Smooth Jazz=HD1 / HD2=Traditional Jazz

WERV:FM 95.9 Oldies=HD1 / HD2=Rapids (Whatever that is...)

WBBM:FM 96.3 Top 40=HD1 / HD2=Dance

WDRV:FM 97.1 Classic rock=HD1 / HD2=Deep Tracks

WLUP: FM 97.9 Rock=HD1 / HD2=Loop Loud

WUSN: FM 99.5 Country=HD1 / HD2=Future Country / HD-3 99.5-3 FM (Trucker!)

WILV: FM 100.3 Rhymic Oldies=HD1 / HD2=Love Songs

WKQX: FM 101.1 Alternative=HD1 / HD2=Alternative

WTMX: FM 101.9 Adult Contemporary=HD1 / HD2=80's;

WVAZ: FM 102.7 Urban=HD1 / HD2=Gospel;

WKSC: FM 103.5 Top 40=HD1 / HD2=Pride

WJMK: FM 104.3 Variety=HD1 / HD2=60's, 70's

WSRB: FM 106.3 R&B=HD1 / HD2=Soul;

WGCI: FM 107.5 Hip Hop R&B=HD1 /HD2=Old School Hip Hop


Maybe you should buy an HD radio and discover what's out there..instead of
parroting whatever negative information you may have heard.

(I don't see many "AM rebroadcasts"..some even have HD3 channels!)

You missed a few.
You also missed that many of these HD 2 and HD 3 channels are the same
playlist as other stations in the group.

For example?

There's not a lot of innovation here.

What are you expecting? Howard Stern? Oprah Winfrey? How's that working
out for the Sat Radio companies?

Certainly not a lot of alternatives.

21 Streams are not enough alternatives?

Maybe you should buy an HD radio and discover what's really out
there..instead of
parroting whatever negative information you may have heard.

A Brown wrote:

There's not a lot of innovation here.

What are you expecting? Howard Stern? Oprah Winfrey? How's that working
out for the Sat Radio companies?



Now weren't you the one speaking of the myriad of alternative
formats, innovative formats, and off-mainstream formats? Now you're
pooh-poohing innovation?

Hmmm...
Certainly not a lot of alternatives.

21 Streams are not enough alternatives?


Not when half of them are repackaged formats with the same playlists
as the baseband formats, no.

Now weren't you the one speaking of the myriad of alternative
formats, innovative formats, and off-mainstream formats? Now you're
pooh-poohing innovation?

Nope. 21 extra streams of music in a market is fine for me.

Not when half of them are repackaged formats with the same playlists as
the baseband formats, no.

I don't see any with the "same playlist as the baseband formats".

Asking again.....an example? Or is this more parroting?

A Brown wrote:
Now weren't you the one speaking of the myriad of alternative
formats, innovative formats, and off-mainstream formats? Now you're
pooh-poohing innovation?

Nope. 21 extra streams of music in a market is fine for me.

Not when half of them are repackaged formats with the same playlists as
the baseband formats, no.

I don't see any with the "same playlist as the baseband formats".

Asking again.....an example? Or is this more parroting?



Why don't you try turning on a radio and see for yourself.

On Jul 15, 11:14�pm, "A Brown" wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in ...

A Brown wrote:
� Which is precisely the point. So far, only the technology has been
promoted. And the diverse 'out of the box' programming offerings have
not materialized as promised.
Sure they have, there's Jazz, 70's Folk, Chorale, Ethnic, Dance...There
are lots of formats available that are not available on the regular
broadcast band.

� And not widely available on HD.

There are ALL available where I am.

� �Not whare I am. Nor where I've been so far this year..

You don't get out much.... � BTW...You shouldn't make absolute judgements
only based on your own limited experiences.

Most HD channels I've heard, are dupes of the baseband audio,

That's the HD-1 channel. �The HD-2 and HD-3, etc...channels can be
anything they want.

� Can. Doesn't mean they are.

I just showed you they are. �If you live near a Top 15 Moraket and 85% of
America does.

If you live near a major city (and 85% of America lives within the top 15
markets) you have plenty of HD choices.

� I live in Chicago. Big enough for you?

Take a look!

(I don't see many "AM rebroadcasts"..some even have HD3 channels!)

WMBI:FM 90.1 Religion=HD1 / HD2=Praise Music / HD3=Kids!

WPWX: FM 92.3 Urban=HD1 / HD2=Classic Hip Hop;

WXRT: FM 93.1 Rock=HD1 / HD2=New Music

WLIT:FM 93.9 Adult contemporary=HD1 �/ HD2=Disco

WNUA:FM 95.5 Smooth Jazz=HD1 / HD2=Traditional Jazz

WERV:FM 95.9 Oldies=HD1 �/ HD2=Rapids (Whatever that is...)

WBBM:FM 96.3 Top 40=HD1 / HD2=Dance

WDRV:FM 97.1 Classic rock=HD1 / HD2=Deep Tracks

WLUP: FM 97.9 Rock=HD1 / HD2=Loop Loud

WUSN: FM 99.5 Country=HD1 / HD2=Future Country / HD-3 99.5-3 FM (Trucker!)

WILV: FM 100.3 Rhymic Oldies=HD1 / HD2=Love Songs

WKQX: FM 101.1 Alternative=HD1 / HD2=Alternative

WTMX: FM 101.9 Adult Contemporary=HD1 / HD2=80's;

WVAZ: FM 102.7 Urban=HD1 / HD2=Gospel;

WKSC: FM 103.5 Top 40=HD1 / HD2=Pride

WJMK: FM 104.3 Variety=HD1 �/ HD2=60's, 70's

WSRB: FM 106.3 R&B=HD1 / HD2=Soul;

WGCI: FM 107.5 Hip Hop R&B=HD1 /HD2=Old School Hip Hop

Maybe you should buy anHD radioand discover what's out there..instead of
parroting whatever negative information you may have heard.

Most of these formats are just clever reqorks off the main analog
channels:

"HD Hypocrisy"

"Here's a few more reasons why only iBiquity and a few clueless radio
group heads could make a big thing out of HD radio tagging... The very
damn radio stations that broadcast in HD offer no programming worth
listening to. HD Radio is a virtual sewer of formats owners don't want
on their terrestrial frequencies and other assorted garbage that no
one sane would listen to -- let alone spend money for new radios --
tagging or not."

http://insidemusicmedia.blogspot.com...hypocrisy.html

HD Radio is a farce!

WSRB: FM 106.3 R&B=HD1 / HD2=Soul;

WGCI: FM 107.5 Hip Hop R&B=HD1 /HD2=Old School Hip Hop

Maybe you should buy anHD radioand discover what's out there..instead of
parroting whatever negative information you may have heard.

Most of these formats are just clever reqorks off the main analog
channels:

Another parrot?

Check the playlists. They are not.

Wouldn't you rather be informed about things before you speak?