On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 14:30:47 -0800 (PST), RHF
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- Simulcasting doesn't mean that they are turning off the AMs.

....But nor does it mean the listenership is doubled, either.

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On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 14:30:47 -0800 (PST), RHF
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- Simulcasting doesn't mean that they are turning off the AMs.

...But nor does it mean the listenership is doubled, either.


Generally speaking, the stations that have added an FM simulcast have seen
the 25-54 salable demos increase by more than double.

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On Dec 21, 3:36 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

Univision Radio already has a contemporary Christian format on HD2
channels in a large variety of markets.

Eduardo - Who's listening? If there are only 1 Million radios
sold, which is a very optimistic number by the way, how many people
could possibly be listening? How could it be self-supporting?

The format director goes to large churches, after previously talking
with the pastor, and explains HD. Discount capons and literature are
given out, and we know of thousands of radios sold this way. The same
has happened with our Tejano network on HD2 in Texas... it's up to
the station to promote the product on the air and the sale of
receivers.

If we move, let's say, 50,000 receivers in the LA market in the next
year, and each person listens an average amount of time for
comparable formats, the HD 2 channel will show in the ratings... low,
but it will show.

The figure on receiver sales is over a million, by the way.

That would be interesting. Let as know when a HD2 channel shows up in
the ratings.

This lends a different dimension on the thought that HD is only
promoted by believers. Ha, ha. Best wishes to Hector promoting his HD2
channel.


In NY and Philadelphia, they have shown. Almost all are encoded, too..

By NY do you mean the city or the state?

What are the numbers?

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Ventura, California

On Dec 21, 5:46 pm, "Bob Campbell" wrote:
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Eduardo - If you were really as smart as you think you are you
wouldn't be spending so much time in Google Groups conversing with the
little people. Think about it........

If you were as smart as *you* think you are, you would realize that this is
not "Google Groups".

That's funny. I'm not an expert on such things but it says "Google
Groups" at the top of this page on my PC. Can you help me out here?

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In NY and Philadelphia, they have shown. Almost all are encoded, too..

By NY do you mean the city or the state?

States are not rated, only metros. So that means NY the city.

What are the numbers?


0.1 on several occasions for KYW's HD2 channel rebroadcast of it's AM
programming. And in NY it was lite FM. A dozen or more internet streams of
stations now show in their respective markets, too.

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On Dec 21, 5:46 pm, "Bob Campbell" wrote:
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Eduardo - If you were really as smart as you think you are you
wouldn't be spending so much time in Google Groups conversing with the
little people. Think about it........

If you were as smart as *you* think you are, you would realize that this is
not "Google Groups".

That's funny. I'm not an expert on such things but it says "Google
Groups" at the top of this page on my PC. Can you help me out here?

Go do some reading on Usenet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/what-is/part1/

And google groups

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Groups

And understand that you are one of the tainted google groupers. If you
are wondering how bad that is it's like having leprosy.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

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On Dec 21, 5:46 pm, "Bob Campbell" wrote:
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Eduardo - If you were really as smart as you think you are you
wouldn't be spending so much time in Google Groups conversing with the
little people. Think about it........

If you were as smart as *you* think you are, you would realize that this
is
not "Google Groups".

That's funny. I'm not an expert on such things

Obviously.

but it says "Google Groups" at the top of this page on my PC. Can you
help me out here?

No. If you are actually using "Google Groups" then you are beyond help.

Telamon wrote:


They also keep the conservatives and reactionaries in Ventura informed.
This is very important as we are the opinion formers, opinion makers,
and voters.

You enabled the biggest robbery in history and hopefully you will atone.

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/Movi...hnetwork4.html

David Eduardo wrote:



Generally speaking, the stations that have added an FM simulcast have
seen the 25-54 salable demos increase by more than double.

Generally speaking, then, you must be a "salable demo" bipedal entity in
order to expect radio programs for people like yourselves?

On Dec 22, 7:12 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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Eduardo - I find it amusing that you never reply to some of my HD
Radio threads, especially the latest from Crawford that blasts
iBiquity, and that indictes that HD radios can't be found in any of
the major retailers. LOL!

For starters, I don't work for iBiquity. When you engage in ad hominem
insults of executives of iBiquity, that's a game I don't play... it's not my
fight anyway.

I believe FM HD is a very good idea. In the current economy, everything you
wish for may actually come true, but not because HD is bad or stations don't
want a path to digital... it's that nobody has money for capex items of any
kind this year and next, so HD may "be postponed" and we saw what happened
in the late 70s' when AM Stereo was "postponed" and, eventually, of no
impact.

AM has too many economic problems in this recession to be worried about HD
or, in fact, to benefit from it. The recession is hastening the end to major
AM players, while benefitting the lower cost FM stations.

It appears form the muddled reports that Sirius XM will be off a half
million subscribers this year, and things will get worse as families tighten
their budgets. Consumer electronics is highly discretionary, and we will
likely see declines in new computer sales, music player sales and tv and
radio sales. But none of this has to do with the merits or lack of same of
HD Radio... it's all about the economy.

So, Eduardo, does that mean you think there's a possibility that HD
radio might not be successful? If so I can't believe you would even
entertain such a position.