"Dave Barnett" wrote in message
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RHF wrote:

Care to dispute any of the 'others' too . . .
HumDesi : South Asian Radio {WorldBand Media}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HumDesi
New York Metro - WRKS FM via HD-2
Los Angeles Metro - KPWR FM via HD-3
Chicago Metro - WLUP FM via HD-3
Washington DC Metro - WTOP FM via HD-2
.

Well, my previous post stands - I'm sure they're not making any money when
the true costs of HD are added up.


in the scheme of things...hd radio is very inexpensive

most stations hav echosen not to air any commericals...so as to be able to
"sell it" to the public as commercial free.

In article ,
"Watchin & Waitin'" wrote:

in the scheme of things...hd radio is very inexpensive

Obviously, you have never done an HD conversion. It amounts to basically
building a new transmitter plant from scratch. And that's just the
transmitter end. Oh, and don't forget the ongoing iBiquity fees based
upon the station's gross revenues, with additional royalties on each
HD-X channel.

most stations hav echosen not to air any commericals...so as to be able to
"sell it" to the public as commercial free.

Where does the revenue come from when it is "commercial free"?

--
John Higdon
+1 408 ANdrews 6-4400
AT&T-Free At Last

On Oct 16, 2:12*pm, John Higdon wrote:
In article ,
*"Watchin & Waitin'" wrote:

in the scheme of things...hd radio is very inexpensive

Obviously, you have never done an HD conversion. It amounts to basically
building a new transmitter plant from scratch. And that's just the
transmitter end. Oh, and don't forget the ongoing iBiquity fees based
upon the station's gross revenues, with additional royalties on each
HD-X channel.

most stations hav echosen not to air any commericals...so as to be able to
"sell it" to the public as commercial free.

Where does the revenue come from when it is "commercial free"?

--
John Higdon
+1 408 ANdrews 6-4400
AT&T-Free At Last

"Upping HD Radio signal strengths"

"The short math given what we know today is that it will cost roughly
double on the transmission end to increase HD Radio FM power tenfold.
There are likely to be additional costs for cooling and air handling
as well, in order to dissipate the excess energy required to get out
another 10 dB in HD Radio signal. And, for some higher powered
stations, existing HD Radio configurations may not be able to handle
the power load, which could add to the cost and complexity of
increasing HD Radio beyond its current power level... Also worth
considering is existing transmitter combiner technology and whether or
not it can support the added demands of increasing HD Radio broadcasts
another 10 dB. If not, then it’s very likely that stations at the
higher power levels will need to factor in a new antenna system that
can support HD Radio, rather than piggyback onto their existing FM
antenna system. At the higher powers, especially, an immediate 10 dB
increase in HD Radio signal may be cost prohibitive... This will
typically mean the addition of another similarly rated transmitter
(using a combining technique) or the purchase of a new transmitter of
roughly twice today’s power level."

http://tinyurl.com/cfbrtq

Yup, take a look at the costs for the FM-HD power increase - with the
major radio groups facing bankruptcy most won't be able to do it.

"HD Radio Farce" wrote in message
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On Oct 16, 2:12 pm, John Higdon wrote:
In article ,
"Watchin & Waitin'" wrote:

in the scheme of things...hd radio is very inexpensive

Obviously, you have never done an HD conversion. It amounts to basically
building a new transmitter plant from scratch. And that's just the
transmitter end. Oh, and don't forget the ongoing iBiquity fees based
upon the station's gross revenues, with additional royalties on each
HD-X channel.

most stations hav echosen not to air any commericals...so as to be able
to
"sell it" to the public as commercial free.

Where does the revenue come from when it is "commercial free"?

--
John Higdon
+1 408 ANdrews 6-4400
AT&T-Free At Last

"Upping HD Radio signal strengths"

"The short math given what we know today is that it will cost roughly


Wow...another cut/paste job by another HD nutcake.

"John Higdon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Watchin & Waitin'" wrote:

in the scheme of things...hd radio is very inexpensive

Obviously, you have never done an HD conversion. It amounts to basically
building a new transmitter plant from scratch. And that's just the
transmitter end. Oh, and don't forget the ongoing iBiquity fees based
upon the station's gross revenues, with additional royalties on each
HD-X channel.

most stations hav echosen not to air any commericals...so as to be able
to
"sell it" to the public as commercial free.

Where does the revenue come from when it is "commercial free"?

Most have agreed to forgo advertising in order to highlight the HD as an
alternative, another choice.

Some have leased time to ethnic groups for cash, some have leased time to
infomercials, some to religious outlets.....for cash.

On Oct 16, 11:19*pm, "Jo Jo Gunn" wrote:
"John Higdon" wrote in message

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In article ,
"Watchin & Waitin'" wrote:

in the scheme of things...hd radio is very inexpensive

Obviously, you have never done an HD conversion. It amounts to basically
building a new transmitter plant from scratch. And that's just the
transmitter end. Oh, and don't forget the ongoing iBiquity fees based
upon the station's gross revenues, with additional royalties on each
HD-X channel.

most stations hav echosen not to air any commericals...so as to be able
to
"sell it" to the public as commercial free.

Where does the revenue come from when it is "commercial free"?

Most have agreed to forgo advertising in order to highlight the HD as an
alternative, another choice.

- Some have leased time to ethnic groups for cash,
- some have leased time to infomercials,
- some to religious outlets.....for cash.

For Christian Religious Broadcasters HD-2 Channels
that Broadcast 24/7 may be a more 'cost effective'
alternative to running their own 24/7 FM Radio Station.

For the Saudi Arabian Government who pays for 2/3s
of the Imams in American Mosques having a 100+
FM HD-Radio Stations across the USA broadcasting
an HD-2 "Muslim" Channel in Arabic and English
would fit into their scheme to bring Allah to America.