"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
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"Sal M. O'Nella"

The commercial power in my neighborhood has an asymmetric waveform. Some
of us have been saving the extra electrons on one-half-cycle.

The extra electrons flow into the ground. Like in your radios.
S*

True. However, to be of any future use, they must be captured before this
can happen. I'm keeping mine on a shelf in the back pantry. The first box
is nearly full.

"Sal M. O'Nella" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
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"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
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"Sal M. O'Nella"

The commercial power in my neighborhood has an asymmetric waveform.
Some of us have been saving the extra electrons on one-half-cycle.

The extra electrons flow into the ground. Like in your radios.
S*

True. However, to be of any future use, they must be captured before this
can happen. I'm keeping mine on a shelf in the back pantry. The first
box is nearly full.

A box is not the best condenser.
You should use the Leyden jar.
S*

"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
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A box is not the best condenser.
You should use the Leyden jar.
S*

How about a nice modern compact capacitor?

Regards, Ian.

"Ian" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
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"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
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A box is not the best condenser.
You should use the Leyden jar.
S*

How about a nice modern compact capacitor?

It should be with the low leakage. The Leyden jar has a thick insulation.
And,

"Any type of capacitor may develop excessive leakage if the capacitor is
subjected to excessive applied voltage or high-voltage spikes."

..It was known in Marconi time:
"It is now perfectly well known that a condenser, if large enough, does not
prevent the passage of high frequency oscillations, and therefore in these
cases
the earth is for all practical purposes connected to the antennae." (Marconi
1909).

In reality the real condenser conducts (electrons are flowing) the DC but do
not AC.
In the teaching program is opposite.
S*

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Ian" napisa? w wiadomo?ci
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"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
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A box is not the best condenser.
You should use the Leyden jar.
S*

How about a nice modern compact capacitor?

It should be with the low leakage. The Leyden jar has a thick insulation.
And,

"Any type of capacitor may develop excessive leakage if the capacitor is
subjected to excessive applied voltage or high-voltage spikes."

.It was known in Marconi time:
"It is now perfectly well known that a condenser, if large enough, does not
prevent the passage of high frequency oscillations, and therefore in these
cases
the earth is for all practical purposes connected to the antennae." (Marconi
1909).

In reality the real condenser conducts (electrons are flowing) the DC but do
not AC.
In the teaching program is opposite.
S*

What an utter idiot.

Who wants to try to explain to this babbling idiot that the impedance of
a capacitor is 1 / ( 2 X pi X f X C) which means if f is zero (DC) the
impedance is infinite and there is no conduction (in an ideal capacitor).

napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Ian" napisa? w wiadomo?ci
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"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
.. .
A box is not the best condenser.
You should use the Leyden jar.
S*

How about a nice modern compact capacitor?

It should be with the low leakage. The Leyden jar has a thick insulation.
And,

"Any type of capacitor may develop excessive leakage if the capacitor is
subjected to excessive applied voltage or high-voltage spikes."

.It was known in Marconi time:
"It is now perfectly well known that a condenser, if large enough, does
not
prevent the passage of high frequency oscillations, and therefore in
these
cases
the earth is for all practical purposes connected to the antennae."
(Marconi
1909).

In reality the real condenser conducts (electrons are flowing) the DC but
do
not AC.
In the teaching program is opposite.
S*

What an utter idiot.

Who wants to try to explain to this babbling idiot that the impedance of
a capacitor is 1 / ( 2 X pi X f X C) which means if f is zero (DC) the
impedance is infinite and there is no conduction (in an ideal capacitor).

You and teachers live in the ideal world where are the ideal capacitors.

Leyden jar has insulator made of glass.
It is possible to make it with insulator "made" of the air.

What will be leakage in such case?
S*

"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
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In reality the real condenser conducts (electrons are flowing) the DC
but
do
not AC.
In the teaching program is opposite.
S*

What an utter idiot.

Who wants to try to explain to this babbling idiot that the impedance of
a capacitor is 1 / ( 2 X pi X f X C) which means if f is zero (DC) the
impedance is infinite and there is no conduction (in an ideal capacitor).

You and teachers live in the ideal world where are the ideal capacitors.

Leyden jar has insulator made of glass.
It is possible to make it with insulator "made" of the air.

What will be leakage in such case?
S*

Errr ... if your computer used capacitors with air dielectric then I doubt
we'd hear from you again.

If it helps you, capacitors pass AC and block DC.

Regards, Ian.

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

napisa? w wiadomo?ci
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Who wants to try to explain to this babbling idiot that the impedance of
a capacitor is 1 / ( 2 X pi X f X C) which means if f is zero (DC) the
impedance is infinite and there is no conduction (in an ideal capacitor).

You and teachers live in the ideal world where are the ideal capacitors.

I live in the real world and it is trivial to verify that the impedance
of a capacitor is 1 / ( 2 X pi X f X C).

As usual, you are totally confused.

Leyden jar has insulator made of glass.
It is possible to make it with insulator "made" of the air.

What will be leakage in such case?

Leakage and impedance are two separate things, idiot.

On 6/6/2012 3:05 AM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:

You and teachers live in the ideal world where are the ideal capacitors.

Leyden jar has insulator made of glass.
It is possible to make it with insulator "made" of the air.

What will be leakage in such case?
S*

So after you saying he lives in a world of ideal capacitors you now
proclaim that a Leyden Jar is an ideal capacitor? Pot, kettle.

Because it's not a real world "practical and useful in actual devices"
capacitor, Leyden Jars inhale vacuum like almost nothing else in the
capacitor universe. They are useless in virtually all practical
applications.

So Leyden Jars normally occupy the absolute bottom of the capacitor list.

tom
K0TAR

"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
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In reality the real condenser conducts (electrons are flowing) the DC but
do not AC.
In the teaching program is opposite.
S*

I'll take that into account the next time I'm connecting a bleeder across a
power supply output. Now that I know a capacitor will work ...