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On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 09:16:03 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:

Before I have read that J. Schneider used the Epsom salt to cancer cure.

Well, might as well go further off topic. I'll make it quick and
painless.

In about 2006, I discovered that I had prostate cancer. I had some
time, so I elected watchful waiting, while I shopped around for
alternatives to conventional cancer treatments.

J. Schneider published his results in 2006 after 15 years of experiments.
The National Cancer Institute confirmed it.
Your "alternatives" were the old ones.

But J. Schneider wrote:
"I have no idea if my body was unique in its response to this agent
(saturated solution of Epsom salt + Vit C).
It is obvious that that much more laboratory and clinic testing is necessary
before anyone could recomended this agent to anyone else for their use".

Now I know that my body is also unique.

I settled on 3 rather
popular treatments and tried them all with religious adherence to
their recommended procedures and strictures. Nothing worked, and my
PSA score continued to climb:
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/psa.jpg
(The big peak in 2007 was from the effects of a kidney stone.) As I
approached meltdown, I finally elected to have my prostate surgically
removed. A year later, I had to go through radiation treatment to
clean up the mess because I had waited a bit too long.

During this exercise, I learned a few things about alternative
medicine and cancer.
1. There are plenty of people that do absolutely nothing and have the
cancer miraculously disappear. It's more common than I suspected. I
know two such people.
2. History is written by the survivors. The failures of any
alternative procedure is unlikely to write a report indicating that
they had died from the procedure. Those that survived, and where the
alternative treatment failed, are unlikely to report the failure. Of
course, the proponents of the alternative treatment are unlikely to
mention failures. The result is the overwhelming number of user
comments on alternative treatment web sites are positive.
3. There are huge number of scams and disreputable medical schemes on
the internet. There are also credible looking research reports, which
offer conclusions not substantiated by any data. Some reports go so
far as to be self-contradictory. I found one that couldn't even get
the arithmetic correct.
4. The way to separate the scams from real research is to determine
if the author has a financial interest in the procedure. If they're
selling a book, potion, drug, procedure, or have a political agenda,
then they should be ignored. What's left are usually government and
university financed studies.
5. Alternative medicine certainly has its benefits. In general, it's
a great way to clean up a bad lifestyle. Living on junk food, not
getting enough exercise, and high stress all have their effects.
However, the price of alternative medicine might be delaying
conventional treatment, which often has fatal results. That's roughly
what happened to Steve Jobs, who delayed pancreatic cancer surgery a
bit too long.

I agree with you in 100%.

But the J. Schneider cancer cure is not an alternative.
It is tested in the National Institutions.

Feel free to try Mr Bialek's recommended treatments. However, have
your exit strategy ready in case they fail.

Not my but John Schneider who discovered the cancer cure and Grab Saddle.
S*

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Now I know that my body is also unique.

Especially your brain; it is totally unlike a human brain.

On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:55:49 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:

J. Schneider published his results in 2006 after 15 years of experiments.
The National Cancer Institute confirmed it.
Your "alternatives" were the old ones.

The NCI doesn't confirm anything or do any research or experiments.
They're a government organization that catalogs, organizes, and
reports on other peoples and organizations research. The only place
where the NCI funds reports are for maintaining the statistical
database and running regular surveys of best practices and research
trends. I believe (not sure) that they also insist on peer reviewed
research.

Searching cancer.gov and scholar.google.com for "J. Schneider epsom
salt", I find nothing. URL please? Any double blind clinical trials?



--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

"Jeff Liebermann" napisal w wiadomosci
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On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:55:49 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:

J. Schneider published his results in 2006 after 15 years of experiments.
The National Cancer Institute confirmed it.
Your "alternatives" were the old ones.

The NCI doesn't confirm anything or do any research or experiments.
They're a government organization that catalogs, organizes, and
reports on other peoples and organizations research. The only place
where the NCI funds reports are for maintaining the statistical
database and running regular surveys of best practices and research
trends. I believe (not sure) that they also insist on peer reviewed
research.

Searching cancer.gov and scholar.google.com for "J. Schneider epsom
salt", I find nothing. URL please? Any double blind clinical trials?

I have come accros Epsom salt in 2007.
The most interesting was Schneider's "CANCER CURE PAGE".
It starts it words: "I mix my cancer cure as i explain in item #4 on this
"CANCER CURE PAGE"
I have the printout but without URL.
Two years ago I have lost the all what was on my PC.

Schneider did not write why the Epsom salt cure cancers. So it was
interesting for me the two steatments:
"ALL cancer is a funge" and "that
magnesium sulphate (Epsom Salts) saturated solution in water is deadly to
almost any fungus/yeast. Well, after 1 week of applying this it has sorted
out my basal cell and removed it completely. That stuff is dirt cheap and
works."

It is known since XVI century that Epsom salt cures all skin problems.

Todey I found:
"
Sea Salt Water Drink -
Dr. F. Batmanghelidj MD believes that salt is vital for theprevention and
treatment of the cancer. Cancer cells - he explains- cannotleave in an
oxygenated environment. When the body is well hydrated and saltexpends the
volume of blood circulation to reach all parts of the body, theoxygen and
active immune cells in the blood reach the cancerous tissue anddestroy it.
All refined salt should be discarded as its harmful to the body"


Unrefined sea salt has many Mg and S ions.


Do you use the unrafined sea salt?

S*

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Sea Salt Water Drink -
Dr. F. Batmanghelidj MD believes that salt is vital for theprevention and
treatment of the cancer. Cancer cells - he explains- cannotleave in an
oxygenated environment. When the body is well hydrated and saltexpends the
volume of blood circulation to reach all parts of the body, theoxygen and
active immune cells in the blood reach the cancerous tissue anddestroy it.
All refined salt should be discarded as its harmful to the body"


Unrefined sea salt has many Mg and S ions.


Do you use the unrafined sea salt?

Drink sea water, lots of it, please.

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Sea Salt Water Drink -
Dr. F. Batmanghelidj MD believes that salt is vital for the prevention
and
treatment of the cancer. Cancer cells - he explains- cannotleave in an
oxygenated environment. When the body is well hydrated and saltexpends
the
volume of blood circulation to reach all parts of the body, theoxygen and
active immune cells in the blood reach the cancerous tissue anddestroy
it.
All refined salt should be discarded as its harmful to the body"


Unrefined sea salt has many Mg and S ions.


Do you use the unrafined sea salt?

Drink sea water, lots of it, please.

It is not available for me: http://oceanwaterinabottle.com/
S*

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Sea Salt Water Drink -
Dr. F. Batmanghelidj MD believes that salt is vital for the prevention
and
treatment of the cancer. Cancer cells - he explains- cannotleave in an
oxygenated environment. When the body is well hydrated and saltexpends
the
volume of blood circulation to reach all parts of the body, theoxygen and
active immune cells in the blood reach the cancerous tissue anddestroy
it.
All refined salt should be discarded as its harmful to the body"


Unrefined sea salt has many Mg and S ions.


Do you use the unrafined sea salt?

Drink sea water, lots of it, please.

It is not available for me: http://oceanwaterinabottle.com/
S*

Last time I looked Poland had coastline on the Baltic Sea.

Take a train/bus/goat cart to the sea along with a big bottle and get
all you want.

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:


Do you use the unrafined sea salt?

Drink sea water, lots of it, please.

It is not available for me: http://oceanwaterinabottle.com/
S*

Last time I looked Poland had coastline on the Baltic Sea.

Take a train/bus/goat cart to the sea along with a big bottle and get
all you want.

The Baltic Sea is like a lake (0.3% of salt).
In oceans is 4%.
S*

On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:55:18 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:

"Jeff Liebermann" napisal w wiadomosci
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Searching cancer.gov and scholar.google.com for "J. Schneider epsom
salt", I find nothing. URL please? Any double blind clinical trials?

I have come accros Epsom salt in 2007.

URL please. If you cannot find a suitable published and peer reviewed
research report or clinical trial results, I would consider your
recycled medical advice to be in the same class as your physics. While
there is a tiny possibility that an obscure scientist may have
discovered or rediscovered something profound, the odds are against
this happening. More likely, he's yet another medical fraud.

The most interesting was Schneider's "CANCER CURE PAGE".

URL please. Google didn't find anything. I'm beginning to wonder if
this J. Schneider even exists. All I can find with Google are your
posting proclaiming his miraculous cancer cure.

Do you use the unrafined sea salt?

No. I also have cardiac issues and make an effort to reduce my sodium
salt intake. I rarely add salt to anything (except popcorn).
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/salt.jpg
I prefer to get my beta particles from Potassium salt substitute.


--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

"Jeff Liebermann" napisal w wiadomosci
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On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:55:18 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:

Do you use the unrafined sea salt?

No. I also have cardiac issues and make an effort to reduce my sodium
salt intake. I rarely add salt to anything (except popcorn).
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/salt.jpg
I prefer to get my beta particles from Potassium salt substitute.

If you do not supply the Na and Cl your body captures the K and Br instead.
Heve it sense?
S*