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Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
an_old_friend wrote: Dave wrote: 5 WPM is do-able! My 4 1/2 year granddaughter copies 5 wpm! Her 10 year old brother, who learned it in Cub Scouts, taught her. And, she can't even spell yet! But, she knows the alphabet from watching TV. Some people have DIFFICULTY learning Morse Code, real difficulty! I have taught Morse Code off and on for 40 years and from total ignorance to 100% success in 8 hours, 2 hours a week for 4 weeks [plus a little home practice. It is practice [work] that makes it successful.] bulls**** or I'd would have a noivice license rough 3 decades ago Some people can learn the code but suffer from "TEST STRESS". They can copy it comfortably in their home or their surroundings; but, when they have to demonstrate that skill in front of a 'WITNESS' who has pass/fail power, they tense up and fail. That's understandable and can be worked with. never could do it alone with any reliablity either Some people are dyslexic. But, they can hear it and talk it out, but can't get it on paper. But, they learned the code. some dyslexics can true If you can learn the english alphabet, if you can learn the english language, if you can read this email then you CAN LEARN Morse Code at 5 WPM. You may never progress to 20 wpm [It took me 24 months at 1 hour of practice a day every day to progress from 5 to 20 wpm] but 5 wpm can be learned. shove you insistance that you can speak for eveyone where the sun don't shine Teaching methods, practice criteria and testing/verification methods become critical for those with difficulty. indeed as do factors like random chance /s/ DD, W1MCE now even if you are right why should somebody be made to take this test after Icould endure 10 lashes in a public sqare too (and thatwould certainly be easier) Poor Markie, so bitter that kids can pass morse code tests and he is too stupid to pass one. |
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Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewithother.
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Poor Markie, so bitter that kids can pass morse code tests and he is too stupid to pass one. NO! Don't label another person! It is wrong to label! Particularly when you do not know any of his/her life's circumstances. I said some people have difficulty learning or learning one particular subject. It is reported that Albert Einstein had difficulty learning Calculus. The man was a Physics genius but needed help with advanced math. I hold a degree in engineering and have completed four years of seminary, but I have not been able to learn conversational SPANISH. [About two years after ordination the Cardinal requested that I learn Spanish at the seminary . After two months the instructor approved my withdrawal from the class. I could learn vocabulary, how to read, write and the grammar for spanish, but my ear does not hear spanish. Total immersion in a Spanish speaking community would be the way for me to learn.] I still say, anyone who can learn an/the alphabet can learn Morse Code. For those with difficulty, the solution to the issue is teaching METHODs not the student's difficulty. Any alphabet is recognizing sound patterns. Words are simply combinations of sound patterns. For 'an_old_friend' I would begin by teaching an alphabet of SOUND PATTERNS. No requirement for speed. Just focus on sound patterns. Keep it very simple. Each two hour lesson would focus on no more than 7 letters until well heard. Then move to SOUND PATTERNS that are close to or similar to those [s]he has learned and is mastering. [Example: learn the sound patterns for 'A', 'W', and 'J' repeat until they are instantly recognized. Then move on to 'N' 'D', 'B', etc. Don't count 'dots' or 'dashes' but hear sound patterns.] The next two hour session, one week later, would begin with a review then add 'T, M, O' followed by 'E, I, S, H'. Drill sound patterns. Then end the session by sending simple words using the 1/2 of the alphabet that has been studied. Speed is NOT a requirement! Accuracy is! If Farnsworth timing at 18 wpm is a roadblock, then change practice timing to 13 wpm or 10 wpm or 7 1/2 wpm or 5 wpm or 3 wpm. SPEED is NOT a REQUIREMENT! Accuracy is! The next two weeks complete the alphabet. Week five would include the numbers and common punctuation. [5 sound character patterns and 6 sound character patterns]. Having said all this, my defense of CW is not any legal requirement. It is simply the best way to work rare DX. Much less power required. Much less bandwidth required. Much more discernible [copyable] in a pile. And, it is fun! /s/ DD, W1MCE |
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It is reported that Albert Einstein had difficulty learning Calculus. The
man was a Physics genius but needed help with advanced math. it was differential geometry that Einstein was unfamiliar with. when formulating relativity, he realized that he needed tools that he was not familiar with. so he went to a mathematician friend and learned which tools he needed. please understand this in the context of 1912. differential geometry was fairly new back then, i believe it came from Riemann. it's possible for some branches of math and physics to be relatively arcane. for instance, de Borges attempted proofs use operator theory. most mathematics students cannot read his papers. in fact, most professional mathematicians can't read them either. the only reason that de Borges proof of Bieberbach became accepted is that it was rewritten by other Europeans. it's not uncommon for a theoretical physicist to have to learn a new branch of math to solve a problem. for instance, string theorists working on the landscape turned to statistics. Gravity |
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Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
Dave wrote: SNIPPED Poor Markie, so bitter that kids can pass morse code tests and he is too stupid to pass one. NO! Don't label another person! It is wrong to label! Particularly when you do not know any of his/her life's circumstances. Wismen labels everybody except himself of course I still say, anyone who can learn an/the alphabet can learn Morse Code. For those with difficulty, the solution to the issue is teaching METHODs not the student's difficulty. Any alphabet is recognizing sound patterns. Words are simply combinations of sound patterns. For 'an_old_friend' I would begin by teaching an alphabet of SOUND PATTERNS. No requirement for speed. Just focus on sound patterns. Keep it very simple. Each two hour lesson would focus on no more than 7 letters until well heard. Then move to SOUND PATTERNS that are close to or similar to those [s]he has learned and is mastering. [Example: learn the sound patterns for 'A', 'W', and 'J' repeat until they are instantly recognized. Then move on to 'N' 'D', 'B', etc. Don't count 'dots' or 'dashes' but hear sound patterns.] prehaps you are trying to be helpfull you are coming off insulting and condesnding that metodalogy was tried and my ears lose the older set of patterns in a few day before I get a hold of the next set Having said all this, my defense of CW is not any legal requirement. It is simply the best way to work rare DX. Much less power required. Much less bandwidth required. Much more discernible [copyable] in a pile. And, it is fun! fun for you the migraine headaches I get listening to any of it is not fun none enjoys pain on that level yes I might be ableto learn well enough now with only a receive or tranmited test (and if I were going to try it would be to send) so I don't have to listen to it you have fun with fine go for it Bear in mind I think Mose and esp the attiudes around are bad for the ARS but I support your freedom to disagree and even to just do something I consider nonproducitve just for sheer joy of it I expect the same however for myself /s/ DD, W1MCE |
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Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
you have fun with fine go for it
Bear in mind I think Mose and esp the attiudes around are bad for the ARS but I support your freedom to disagree and even to just do something I consider nonproducitve just for sheer joy of it nonproductive? yet somehow saying "get help" 1000 times is a valuable use of time? Gravity I expect the same however for myself /s/ DD, W1MCE |
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Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
gravity wrote: you have fun with fine go for it Bear in mind I think Mose and esp the attiudes around are bad for the ARS but I support your freedom to disagree and even to just do something I consider nonproducitve just for sheer joy of it nonproductive? yes non productive yet somehow saying "get help" 1000 times is a valuable use of time? not in and of itself but to bury the filth posted about me yes it is and it takes very little time indeed I have the process almost automated Gravity |
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Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
an old freind wrote: gravity wrote: you have fun with fine go for it Bear in mind I think Mose and esp the attiudes around are bad for the ARS but I support your freedom to disagree and even to just do something I consider nonproducitve just for sheer joy of it nonproductive? yes non productive Only because you are too stupid and lazy to learn it. yet somehow saying "get help" 1000 times is a valuable use of time? not in and of itself but to bury the filth posted about me yes it is and it takes very little time indeed I have the process almost automated Markie comes up with a rationalization of his spamming. Too bad it's like him, seriously flawed. |
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Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
an old freind wrote: Dave wrote: SNIPPED Poor Markie, so bitter that kids can pass morse code tests and he is too stupid to pass one. NO! Don't label another person! It is wrong to label! Particularly when you do not know any of his/her life's circumstances. It's obvious that Markie is a retard. Wismen labels everybody except himself of course Marky labels everybody Wismen since he is so ****ing stupid and sees Wismen everywhere! I still say, anyone who can learn an/the alphabet can learn Morse Code. For those with difficulty, the solution to the issue is teaching METHODs not the student's difficulty. Any alphabet is recognizing sound patterns. Words are simply combinations of sound patterns. Just look at Markie's posts, He can't learn the alphabet. He can't post in anything resembling English. For 'an_old_friend' I would begin by teaching an alphabet of SOUND PATTERNS. No requirement for speed. Just focus on sound patterns. Keep it very simple. Each two hour lesson would focus on no more than 7 letters until well heard. Then move to SOUND PATTERNS that are close to or similar to those [s]he has learned and is mastering. [Example: learn the sound patterns for 'A', 'W', and 'J' repeat until they are instantly recognized. Then move on to 'N' 'D', 'B', etc. Don't count 'dots' or 'dashes' but hear sound patterns.] prehaps you are trying to be helpfull you are coming off insulting and condesnding that metodalogy was tried and my ears lose the older set of patterns in a few day before I get a hold of the next set Face it, you are too stupid to learn morse code. Having said all this, my defense of CW is not any legal requirement. It is simply the best way to work rare DX. Much less power required. Much less bandwidth required. Much more discernible [copyable] in a pile. And, it is fun! fun for you the migraine headaches I get listening to any of it is not fun none enjoys pain on that level You have nothing in your empty skull to give you headaches, Markie! yes I might be ableto learn well enough now with only a receive or tranmited test (and if I were going to try it would be to send) so I don't have to listen to it you have fun with fine go for it Bear in mind I think Mose and esp the attiudes around are bad for the ARS but I support your freedom to disagree and even to just do something I consider nonproducitve just for sheer joy of it I expect the same however for myself More excuses, loser? |
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Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
It is reported that Albert Einstein had difficulty learning Calculus. The
man was a Physics genius but needed help with advanced math. relativity utilizes tensor calculus, which is a few semesters beyond the basic integral calculus taught to many college students. even today, relativity is viewed as fairly knotty. general relativity really isn't tackled until graduate school. it's my understanding that Einstein was very good at math. to be a lowly patent clerk and revolutionize physics requires real skill. what is advanced math? multivariable calculus and ordinary differential equations are viewed as advanced by the general population, however millions of people have learned the basics of these. in contrast, there are papers in number theory that can only be a read by a dozen people on the planet. it's partially due to our own limitations as humans. Gravity |
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