On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 16:06:31 -0500, "Rather Play Pinball"
wrote:


Do a looksie on E-Pay, cheap old style X and K band units are available.
With a 12vDC power supply, you can have your very own source. Even if you
just buy the head without the counter, the 12vdc will supply the head and it
will put out.

Do NOT purchase the Ramsey "kit" for this applicaiton. While it may be fun
for a budding electronics wanna-be, it does not put out at a frequency that
will trigger radar detectors.

He's not trying to set off detectors, he's trying to set a speed
threshold where a siren goes off.

But what the heck, if you're going to set up an illegal transmitter,
might as well use one big enough to reset the ECM in their cars.

What illegal? I can either retune it for a ham band or reduce power if
necessary. I'll find the hardware first and figure out the legal later.

Jim


"Wes Stewart" wrote in message



But what the heck, if you're going to set up an illegal transmitter,
might as well use one big enough to reset the ECM in their cars.

On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 14:47:08 -0800, "RST Engineering"
wrote:

What illegal? I can either retune it for a ham band or reduce power if
necessary. I'll find the hardware first and figure out the legal later.

Well, I know I'm going to be asked to leave this discussion but,
technically, unless you are IDing with your call sign every 10
minutes. it would be illegal. I seriously doubt that this was in your
plan.

Police radar guns, should you come up with one, are also licensed to
the department, assuming the cops are following the law, always a
dubious proposition.

So, because these are -technical- newsgroups, I was being -technical-.

Now for a "prohibited" non-technical suggestion, here is one that I am
contemplating. I too live on a short, private, single-lane road, that
serves four multi-acre homesites. I am plagued by the guys driving
delivery trucks (DHL, UPS, etc) who roar down the road in a cloud of
dust while delivering to my neighbors. I have complained to UPS
repeatedly without success.

So one of these days, when I'm up to it, after they go by on the way
to the neighbor's house, I'm going to take my truck out and block the
road for 15 minutes. (A second offense will call for a penalty of 30
minutes, etc) UPS seems to have a deal with law enforcement that
exempts them from speed limits on public roads, but in AZ the statutes
say:

28-628. Rights of real property owners

This chapter does not prevent the owner of real property that is used
by the public for purposes of vehicular travel by permission of the
owner and not as a matter of right from:

1. Prohibiting that use.

2. Requiring other, different or additional conditions than those
specified in this chapter.

3. Otherwise regulating the use as deemed best by the owner.

In other words, I get to regulate the speed (I've posted it as 10
MPH). I have no power to fine UPS, but I can still cost them money.

Wes Stewart wrote:


28-628. Rights of real property owners

This chapter does not prevent the owner of real property that is used
by the public for purposes of vehicular travel by permission of the
owner and not as a matter of right from:

1. Prohibiting that use.

2. Requiring other, different or additional conditions than those
specified in this chapter.

3. Otherwise regulating the use as deemed best by the owner.

In other words, I get to regulate the speed (I've posted it as 10
MPH). I have no power to fine UPS, but I can still cost them money.

You are not reading the wording carefully; it is the "not as a matter of
right from" that you are missing. It very well may be a matter of right
if the private road is co-owned by the other property holders and this
ownership allows them the right to transact business in the way of
receiving deliveries as they choose.

On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 14:42:32 GMT, Fred Bloggs
wrote:



Wes Stewart wrote:


28-628. Rights of real property owners

This chapter does not prevent the owner of real property that is used
by the public for purposes of vehicular travel by permission of the
owner and not as a matter of right from:

1. Prohibiting that use.

2. Requiring other, different or additional conditions than those
specified in this chapter.

3. Otherwise regulating the use as deemed best by the owner.

In other words, I get to regulate the speed (I've posted it as 10
MPH). I have no power to fine UPS, but I can still cost them money.

You are not reading the wording carefully; it is the "not as a matter of
right from" that you are missing. It very well may be a matter of right
if the private road is co-owned by the other property holders and this
ownership allows them the right to transact business in the way of
receiving deliveries as they choose.

Gray area. The road is not co-owned by the other property owners. At
least my deed doesn't say a thing about me co-owning a piece of the
property between the public street and me.

Besides, I'm not going to stop the delivery, I'm just going to do some
"traffic calming" when the truch is leaving.

What you're trying to tell me is that I've given up complete control
of an easement and if the truck drivers want to go 100 MPH I have no
say in the matter. If I were to call the Sheriff's office I'd be
told, "It's private property, we can't do a thing." If I asked the
county to grade it I would be told to kiss off. If someone got hurt
on the easement, I would be liable. When I bought the place the title
company had a hissy fit because there wasn't a road maintenance
agreement in place. It took the appraiser writing something to the
effect that this was a typical situation in this area, and that each
property owner maintained the road on his easement, before the company
would issue title insurance.

Sounds to me like I do have some say so over the property.

"Wes Stewart" wrote in message
...

Gray area. The road is not co-owned by the other property owners. At
least my deed doesn't say a thing about me co-owning a piece of the
property between the public street and me.

Besides, I'm not going to stop the delivery, I'm just going to do some
"traffic calming" when the truch is leaving.

What you're trying to tell me is that I've given up complete control
of an easement and if the truck drivers want to go 100 MPH I have no
say in the matter. If I were to call the Sheriff's office I'd be
told, "It's private property, we can't do a thing." If I asked the
county to grade it I would be told to kiss off. If someone got hurt
on the easement, I would be liable. When I bought the place the title
company had a hissy fit because there wasn't a road maintenance
agreement in place. It took the appraiser writing something to the
effect that this was a typical situation in this area, and that each
property owner maintained the road on his easement, before the company
would issue title insurance.

Sounds to me like I do have some say so over the property.


Wes,

Since you have to maintain your portion of the easement, why not build
some "road humps" so the delivery trucks have to slow down or risk
having to resort all the parcels in the back?

--
James T. White

Because road humps expose you to liability for that sort of stuff...like
wheel alignments and the like due to the fact that there is no national or
regional standard for "road humps". Trust me, I'm in a court case like this
right now and nobody can present evidence for the correct design of "road
humps".

Jim


Since you have to maintain your portion of the easement, why not build
some "road humps" so the delivery trucks have to slow down or risk
having to resort all the parcels in the back?

Wes...

I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on newsgroups. However, having spent a
dozen years in the highest public office in this county and sorting this
sort of crap out week after week, you have ABSOLUTE control over the
easement.

You cannot PROHIBIT transit over the easement, but you can establish
"reasonable" controls over passage. A locked gate with "reasonable" access
to the keys is OK. A chain that you have to get out of your vehicle to
unlock is reasonable. Ten gates with keys may be reasonable or
unreasonable, depending on your county judge.

Best wishes, and thanks for your help.

Jim


What you're trying to tell me is that I've given up complete control
of an easement

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 20:06:47 -0800, "RST Engineering"
wrote:

Wes...

I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on newsgroups. However, having spent a
dozen years in the highest public office in this county and sorting this
sort of crap out week after week, you have ABSOLUTE control over the
easement.

You cannot PROHIBIT transit over the easement, but you can establish
"reasonable" controls over passage. A locked gate with "reasonable" access
to the keys is OK. A chain that you have to get out of your vehicle to
unlock is reasonable. Ten gates with keys may be reasonable or
unreasonable, depending on your county judge.

Actually, there is a gate at the street. We used to close it at least
at night, although for some reason that slowly ended. It was never
locked, but the sight of it closed stopped a lot of casual traffic
that didn't belong here.


Best wishes, and thanks for your help.

Good luck with the project!

On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 15:37:05 -0700, Wes Stewart wrote:

On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 14:42:32 GMT, Fred Bloggs
wrote:



Wes Stewart wrote:


28-628. Rights of real property owners

This chapter does not prevent the owner of real property that is used
by the public for purposes of vehicular travel by permission of the
owner and not as a matter of right from:

1. Prohibiting that use.

2. Requiring other, different or additional conditions than those
specified in this chapter.

3. Otherwise regulating the use as deemed best by the owner.

In other words, I get to regulate the speed (I've posted it as 10
MPH). I have no power to fine UPS, but I can still cost them money.

You are not reading the wording carefully; it is the "not as a matter of
right from" that you are missing. It very well may be a matter of right
if the private road is co-owned by the other property holders and this
ownership allows them the right to transact business in the way of
receiving deliveries as they choose.

Gray area. The road is not co-owned by the other property owners. At
least my deed doesn't say a thing about me co-owning a piece of the
property between the public street and me.

Besides, I'm not going to stop the delivery, I'm just going to do some
"traffic calming" when the truch is leaving.

What you're trying to tell me is that I've given up complete control
of an easement and if the truck drivers want to go 100 MPH I have no
say in the matter. If I were to call the Sheriff's office I'd be
told, "It's private property, we can't do a thing." If I asked the
county to grade it I would be told to kiss off. If someone got hurt
on the easement, I would be liable. When I bought the place the title
company had a hissy fit because there wasn't a road maintenance
agreement in place. It took the appraiser writing something to the
effect that this was a typical situation in this area, and that each
property owner maintained the road on his easement, before the company
would issue title insurance.

Sounds to me like I do have some say so over the property.

Can you say, "speed bump?"

Good Luck!
Rich