"Dave Heil" wrote in message
...
N2EY wrote:

btw, thinking of departed rrap folk, it occurred to me that I probably
hold the
record for most rrapper's QSO'd. Anybody beat this list?:

K8MN
W4NTI
K0HB
AC6XG
K3LT
K4YZ
W3RV
W6RCA
W0EX
WA2SI

73 de Jim, N2EY

I think you have the record. I've worked four from the list and you.

Dave K8MN

Ditto, I have two from the list plus Jim. I'm certainly looking for more
tho...7037 @ 0100z anybody?

Vy 73 de Bert
FISTS #9384
QRP ARCI #11782

Then On 13 Sep 2004 10:10:07 GMT, PAMNO (N2EY) wrote:

In article , Gareeb
writes:

Come to think of it, it occurs to me that there may be a relationship
between aol'ers and those who can't learn code. Hmmmm....

Hmmmm....I use AOL, and I learned and use Morse Code.


There are exceptions...I merely said there 'may' be a 'relationship'
in the statistical sense, certainly not the absolute sense. Did you
learn code only to pass the test? Can you still do 15wpm? Do you beat
your wife? See, there are many other considerations to factor in.

On 13 Sep 2004 10:10:08 GMT, PAMNO (N2EY) wrote:

In article ,
(Hans K0HB) writes:

Cecil is a grown boy (he's been licensed since even before Len was a
sojer), a free thinker, and not at all the type to be "dogged" into
doing something he doesn't want to by a bunch of twits on rrap.

Yep.

Also I'm not sure why you call him a *******. Most everyone here, on
both sides of the Morse question, respect him as a "stand up" sort of
guy who voices his views in reasoned language without resorting to
personal attacks.

He's the sort of person who does what he says he's going to do, which is just
another example of how "stand up" guys act. He said he'd be there on 7037, and
he was. More then once, too. He said Morse Code was his favorite fun mode, and
he demonstrated that he does indeed use it and enjoy it.

73 de Jim, N2EY

I think Cecil was self-adulating crank but that is only my (most)
humble opinion. He certainly was not the genius he made himself out to
be but hey, no one who ever makes that claim is. No one who claims to
be in mensa ever really is. There were only two really intelligent
people in this group, both of whom were anti-code and whom I utterly
detested: Todd Little and Gary (you make 'em we break 'em) Coleman.

Is there a way to tell what class has the most vanity call signs? If I
had to bet, I would say the Tech, I wonder if they just want people to
think they have been hams a long time? I do understand a few have calls
that were their fathers, elmers, mothers, ect. Some even have calls that
are their initials, most of those start k7*** not N7*** , but most I
have asked and they say just cause?

N2EY wrote:
These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed:

As of May 14, 2000:

Novice - 49,329
Technician - 205,394
Technician Plus - 128,860
General - 112,677
Advanced - 99,782
Extra - 78,750

Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254

Total all classes - 674,792

As of September 4, 2004:

Novice - 30,510 (decrease of 18,819)
Technician - 263,752 (increase of 58,358)
Technician Plus - 57,119 (decrease of 71,741)
General - 139,064 (increase of 26,387)
Advanced - 78,968 (decrease of 20,814)
Extra - 105,739 (increase of 26,989)

Total Tech/TechPlus - 320,871 (decrease of 13,383)

Total all classes - 675,152 (increase of 360)

73 de Jim, N2EY

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:10:14 GMT, Gareeb wrote:

On 13 Sep 2004 10:10:08 GMT, PAMNO (N2EY) wrote:

In article ,
(Hans K0HB) writes:

Cecil is a grown boy (he's been licensed since even before Len was a
sojer), a free thinker, and not at all the type to be "dogged" into
doing something he doesn't want to by a bunch of twits on rrap.

Yep.

Also I'm not sure why you call him a *******. Most everyone here, on
both sides of the Morse question, respect him as a "stand up" sort of
guy who voices his views in reasoned language without resorting to
personal attacks.

He's the sort of person who does what he says he's going to do, which is just
another example of how "stand up" guys act. He said he'd be there on 7037, and
he was. More then once, too. He said Morse Code was his favorite fun mode, and
he demonstrated that he does indeed use it and enjoy it.

73 de Jim, N2EY

I think Cecil was self-adulating crank but that is only my (most)
humble opinion. He certainly was not the genius he made himself out to
be but hey, no one who ever makes that claim is. No one who claims to
be in mensa ever really is. There were only two really intelligent
people in this group, both of whom were anti-code and whom I utterly
detested: Todd Little and Gary (you make 'em we break 'em) Coleman.

I mean, Coffman. Gary Coffman. A true intellectual smartass.

Gareeb wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:10:14 GMT, Gareeb wrote:

I think Cecil was self-adulating crank but that is only my (most)
humble opinion. He certainly was not the genius he made himself out to
be but hey, no one who ever makes that claim is. No one who claims to
be in mensa ever really is. There were only two really intelligent
people in this group, both of whom were anti-code and whom I utterly
detested: Todd Little and Gary (you make 'em we break 'em) Coleman.

I mean, Coffman. Gary Coffman. A true intellectual smartass.

I thought you did pretty well the first time around, though I never
thought of any of those you mentioned as being gifted.

Dave K8MN

In article , Gareeb
writes:

Then On 13 Sep 2004 10:10:07 GMT, PAMNO (N2EY) wrote:

In article , Gareeb
writes:

Come to think of it, it occurs to me that there may be a relationship
between aol'ers and those who can't learn code. Hmmmm....

Hmmmm....I use AOL, and I learned and use Morse Code.

There are exceptions...

Yep, I'm one of 'em. There are lots more.

I merely said there 'may' be a 'relationship'
in the statistical sense, certainly not the absolute sense.

Of course.

Did you
learn code only to pass the test?

At first. I became a ham 37 years ago in large part because I wanted to join
the folks on 75 AM. But once I was exposed to the code and used it on the air,
I found I liked it, and just kept on using it. Wound up passing all six code
tests (5/13/20 wpm, sending and receiving).

Can you still do 15wpm?

Oh yes. More than double that, in fact. Also much less. 5-40 wpm or
thereabouts, what ever the situation calls for.

Do you beat
your wife?

I haven't mentioned marital status here. Not relevant. But I don't beat anyone.


See, there are many other considerations to factor in.

Such as?

73 de Jim, N2EY

In article , whoever whoever@wherever
writes:

Is there a way to tell what class has the most vanity call signs?

Yes, but it's not easy.

The license database information includes various letter codes - you can see
them in QRZ.com. For example, "HVAE". I don't recall all of the codes but one
of them indicates whether the call was issued under the 'modern' vanity call
program.

So all you need do is download the entire database, filter through the info for
license class and vanity, and there you are.

If I
had to bet, I would say the Tech, I wonder if they just want people to
think they have been hams a long time?

I'd say it has more to do with not wanting a six-character callsign. They can
be long and unwieldy. I had six-character callsigns for the first 10 years I
was a ham, and a shorter call has definite advantages. But my callsign was not
issued under the modern vanity program.

I do understand a few have calls
that were their fathers, elmers, mothers, ect. Some even have calls that
are their initials, most of those start k7*** not N7*** , but most I
have asked and they say just cause?

Why not?

If you don't like the callsign blocks available to the various license classes,
you can petition FCC to change them.

73 de Jim, N2EY

(sequentially issued 1977)