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January 6th 04, 10:57 PM

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...

That gives him absolute permission to behave as an asshole off the
radio. No problem.

Again with the profanities, Lennie?

Len, what's going on here?

There were no outrages when Hans just called someone an a-hole.

January 7th 04, 11:26 AM

(Brian) wrote in message om...
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...

That gives him absolute permission to behave as an asshole off the
radio. No problem.

Again with the profanities, Lennie?

Len, what's going on here?

There were no outrages when Hans just called someone an a-hole.

Hans is not the one professing to be the ex-professional author
and "radio professional", Brain.

If you're going to "brag" on some personal characteristic or past
achievement of your life, you should be ready to stand behind it.

Your "mentor" has made a point of insisting on what a
"professional" he is in both electronics and publishing. I think his
conduct herein belies his real character.

Clear enough for you?

Steve, K4YZ

January 8th 04, 12:37 AM

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(Brian) wrote in message om...
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...

That gives him absolute permission to behave as an asshole off the
radio. No problem.

Again with the profanities, Lennie?

Len, what's going on here?

There were no outrages when Hans just called someone an a-hole.

Hans is not the one professing to be the ex-professional author
and "radio professional", Brain.

If you're going to "brag" on some personal characteristic or past
achievement of your life, you should be ready to stand behind it.

Your "mentor" has made a point of insisting on what a
"professional" he is in both electronics and publishing. I think his
conduct herein belies his real character.

Clear enough for you?

Steve, K4YZ

Very clear, sort of.

Basically, if one is not making a claim to be a professional or
speaking of an achievement, he can be profane without being profane?

Sounds like more worm words.

That's what a worm uses.

January 7th 04, 07:00 PM

In article ,
(Brian) writes:

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message
.com...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...

That gives him absolute permission to behave as an asshole off the
radio. No problem.

Again with the profanities, Lennie?

Len, what's going on here?

There were no outrages when Hans just called someone an a-hole.

It's "noblesse oblige" oriented, Brian. The "upper classes" and
royalty get to swear, vomit profanities, demean and denigrate the
lower classes because they all passed 20 WPM code tests.

It's the blue blood of the ruling amateurs. If you don't admire and
love and cherish their noble accomplishments, they turn blue and
use blue language. None others may do the same to them.

Maybe not blue, it's more like they are inviolate.

Stebe gets all red in the face and insists all are green with envy
for not being able to "radiate RF at great power" somehow
allowed to him alone. He's not yellow, doesn't shirk from trying
(vainly) to defend himself when he pales on thinking he's been
insulted.

Of course, any former E-5 or higher that thinks "asshole" is a
terribly profane word must be of the sissy pink coloring.

It's a gray area...

LHA

January 8th 04, 12:41 AM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Brian) writes:

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message
.com...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...

That gives him absolute permission to behave as an asshole off the
radio. No problem.

Again with the profanities, Lennie?

Len, what's going on here?

There were no outrages when Hans just called someone an a-hole.

It's "noblesse oblige" oriented, Brian. The "upper classes" and
royalty get to swear, vomit profanities, demean and denigrate the
lower classes because they all passed 20 WPM code tests.

It's the blue blood of the ruling amateurs. If you don't admire and
love and cherish their noble accomplishments, they turn blue and
use blue language. None others may do the same to them.

Maybe not blue, it's more like they are inviolate.

Stebe gets all red in the face and insists all are green with envy
for not being able to "radiate RF at great power" somehow
allowed to him alone. He's not yellow, doesn't shirk from trying
(vainly) to defend himself when he pales on thinking he's been
insulted.

Of course, any former E-5 or higher that thinks "asshole" is a
terribly profane word must be of the sissy pink coloring.

It's a gray area...

LHA

Hope he never sees a copy of Cinderella Liberty. I think Hans starred in it.

January 10th 04, 08:35 PM

In article ,
(Brian) writes:

Of course, any former E-5 or higher that thinks "asshole" is a
terribly profane word must be of the sissy pink coloring.

It's a gray area...

LHA

Hope he never sees a copy of Cinderella Liberty. I think Hans starred in it.

:-)

LHA

January 8th 04, 03:47 PM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...

It's "noblesse oblige" oriented, Brian. The "upper classes" and
royalty get to swear, vomit profanities, demean and denigrate the
lower classes because they all passed 20 WPM code tests.

Nope.

It's the standard YOU have tried to set, Scummy. YOU are the one
stating "we" (the Amateur community) don't respect
"professionals"...yet here you are spewing antgonisms, profanities and
boldface lies.

So, there you go.

Stebe gets all red in the face and insists all are green with envy
for not being able to "radiate RF at great power" somehow
allowed to him alone. He's not yellow, doesn't shirk from trying
(vainly) to defend himself when he pales on thinking he's been
insulted.

On contraire again, Lennie...I get to radiate more than adequate
"great power". I hardly ever use more than 200 watts on ANY band,
however, since it's not necessary to use it.

Of course, unlike YOU, I have a station license that allows me to
establish a radio station wherein I can use it.

Of course, any former E-5 or higher that thinks "asshole" is a
terribly profane word must be of the sissy pink coloring.

Blatant evidence that you are not in touch with the "new"
professional Armed Forces, Lennie. That kind of language, although
rampant in your day, can get a prefessional soldier busted or fined.

Of course WE knew that, since all of your references to the Armed
Forces start off "Back in 1953 at ADA..."...

It's a gray area...

Nothing "gray" about it, Lennie. YOU keep trying to foist
yourself off as a professional, both as an author and as an engineer,
but YOUR conduct and YOUR language lend a different example.

Sucks to be you, I'd say...

Steve, K4YZ

January 10th 04, 08:35 PM

In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...

It's "noblesse oblige" oriented, Brian. The "upper classes" and
royalty get to swear, vomit profanities, demean and denigrate the
lower classes because they all passed 20 WPM code tests.

Nope.

It's the standard YOU have tried to set, Scummy. YOU are the one
stating "we" (the Amateur community) don't respect
"professionals"...yet here you are spewing antgonisms, profanities and
boldface lies.

tsk, tsk, tsk, stebe...YOU don't respect professionals. :-)

I've never stated any "boldface lies." This web browser doesn't allow
selection of boldface type.

On contraire again, Lennie...I get to radiate more than adequate
"great power". I hardly ever use more than 200 watts on ANY band,
however, since it's not necessary to use it.

You have 40 KW RF output capability? :-)

How about 600 KW RF output?

tsk, tsk, tsk, stebe, look again at amateur radio band allocations
and allowed RF output power. you can't use it on "ANY" band.

Of course, unlike YOU, I have a station license that allows me to
establish a radio station wherein I can use it.

wow, stebe, impressville all the way! your vewwy own wadio
station!

So...if I go into K-Mart or Wal-Mart and plunk down $99 for a shrink-
wrapped CB transceiver "it's not my own radio?"

Okay, if I own a Cessna 182 and buy a Civil Airways VHF Comm
transceiver and install it, "I wouldn't own my own transceiver?"
Who would own it? FAA? USAF? An airlines corporation?

If I have an ocean-going sailboat and buy the "civilian" version of an
SBC-2020 and install it, "I wouldn't own my own radio?" Who would
own it? SBC? USN? USCG? A cruise line corporation?

If, as a private businessman, I buy several transceivers to put in my
delivery vehicles, "I wouldn't OWN them?" Who would own them?
A city department of communications? FCC? NTIA? DMV?

Suppose I buy a pair of FRS HTs. "I won't OWN them?" Who "owns"
them? The store I bought it from using a valid credit card?

Oh, yeah, the only "real radios" are ham radios where everyone
works DX on HF with CW.

Of course, any former E-5 or higher that thinks "asshole" is a
terribly profane word must be of the sissy pink coloring.

Blatant evidence that you are not in touch with the "new"
professional Armed Forces, Lennie. That kind of language, although
rampant in your day, can get a prefessional soldier busted or fined.

aha, stebe, so that's how you got your non-honorable discharge!

we might have known.

I haven't been to a military base since 2001. Must mean I am
"out of touch!"

Heard a couple cuss words from military personnel then. No MPs
or APs showed up to arrest the miscreants. Must be slackers in
the military JAGs, right?

Of course WE knew that, since all of your references to the Armed
Forces start off "Back in 1953 at ADA..."...

It's a gray area...

Nothing "gray" about it, Lennie. YOU keep trying to foist
yourself off as a professional, both as an author and as an engineer,
but YOUR conduct and YOUR language lend a different example.

No "foisting," pink one.

Got paid. That's the major distinction of the professional versus the
amateur.

IRS and Franchise Tax Board (of CA) both have my occupation down
as "electronics engineer" since the late 1960s. Several major
corporations' personnel departments have the same information.
The FBI has a dossier on me and has done a background check on
my work, family, and neighbors...no problems. Also DCAS (Defense
Contracts Administrative Service), CIA (!), NSA, DIA, IEEE, and AMA.

I am a published author in national monthly magazines...which can be
checked by examination of those issues. Real ink on real paper isn't
ephemeral like Internet newsgroup lying, pinkie.

If you want a real treat, hang around "Geek Boy Times" on the web.

That's in line with your claims, sweetums. [bet you don't even know
what it's about and are going to bluff like heck about it...:-) ]

Sucks to be you, I'd say...

In addition to the Shop-Vac we have two Hoovers for the rugs here
although one is really a floor cleaner and rug shampooer (but has a
vacuum capability).

I can also pull a slight vacuum in the workshop with one of two
Soldapults. Know what those are? :-)

Sold the little airbrush compressor hooked up in reverse to pull
bubbles out of castings. No "sucking" there.

I'll bet you never sucked up to any boss, right? :-)

Pinkies do that. Don't think pink.

LHA

January 12th 04, 08:55 PM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

It's the standard YOU have tried to set, Scummy. YOU are the one
stating "we" (the Amateur community) don't respect
"professionals"...yet here you are spewing antgonisms, profanities and
boldface lies.

tsk, tsk, tsk, stebe...YOU don't respect professionals.

I don't respect you. You are a liar...a documented pathological
liar.

I've never stated any "boldface lies." This web browser doesn't allow
selection of boldface type.

Sure you have. That you don't accept responsibility for them is
moot. They are here. No more need be said. You're busted...over and
over and over and......

On contraire again, Lennie...I get to radiate more than adequate
"great power". I hardly ever use more than 200 watts on ANY band,
however, since it's not necessary to use it.

You have 40 KW RF output capability?

How about 600 KW RF output?

tsk, tsk, tsk, stebe, look again at amateur radio band allocations
and allowed RF output power. you can't use it on "ANY" band.

tsk, tsk, tsk, Lennie.

Where did I say "40KW" or "600KW", Your Sliminess?

I paraphrased your "great power" and then cited that I hardly
ever use more than 200watts.

With very few exceptions, I can use 200 watts where I please.

And by the way, Anderscum, would you care to share a copy of the
station licensed where YOU were authorized those powers you
cited...???

I can show you MY station license and quote for you the
paragraphs that stipulate how much power I can use.

Of course, unlike YOU, I have a station license that allows me to
establish a radio station wherein I can use it.

wow, stebe, impressville all the way! your vewwy own wadio
station!

Yep.

So...if I go into K-Mart or Wal-Mart and plunk down $99 for a shrink-
wrapped CB transceiver "it's not my own radio?"

Sure it is. And you can have fun alllllllll day chatting with
foul mouthed truckers, 10 year old space cadets and rogue taxi cabs.

Okay, if I own a Cessna 182 and buy a Civil Airways VHF Comm
transceiver and install it, "I wouldn't own my own transceiver?"
Who would own it? FAA? USAF? An airlines corporation?

Sure...ALLLLLLLLLL yours. No station license, of course, unless
you file for one from the FAA and obtain the Restricted Telephone
Operators Permit and intend to use the aircraft outside of the
territorial United States.

And while you're at it, just pick any old random frequency and
call "CQ" while you're at it.

If I have an ocean-going sailboat and buy the "civilian" version of an
SBC-2020 and install it, "I wouldn't own my own radio?" Who would
own it? SBC? USN? USCG? A cruise line corporation?

Sure it's yours, Lennie. Still no station license unless you
operate it outside the United States...And THEN only (STILL "only") on
the fixed maritime frequencies with a type accepted rig. (Enjoy
plunking down those bucks, Lennie....You earned them...)

If, as a private businessman, I buy several transceivers to put in my
delivery vehicles, "I wouldn't OWN them?" Who would own them?
A city department of communications? FCC? NTIA? DMV?

Suppose I buy a pair of FRS HTs. "I won't OWN them?" Who "owns"
them? The store I bought it from using a valid credit card?

Oh, yeah, the only "real radios" are ham radios where everyone
works DX on HF with CW.

Lennie, if you went on a buying spree RIGHT NOW, and bought one
of every radio that you could LEGALLY operate without a document from
the FCC, you'd still only have enough bandwidth to fit inside the 10
meter Amateur band.

I, on the other hand, can buy those SAME radios, thereby not only
having the entire AMATEUR allocations to play with, but all those SAME
services in which you might operate, and yet again would have more
OPERATING privileges than you do right now.

Of course, any former E-5 or higher that thinks "asshole" is a
terribly profane word must be of the sissy pink coloring.

Blatant evidence that you are not in touch with the "new"
professional Armed Forces, Lennie. That kind of language, although
rampant in your day, can get a prefessional soldier busted or fined.

aha, stebe, so that's how you got your non-honorable discharge!

Uh huh...right.

Rest of LennieRant clipped...Once again, made a fool of by his
own hand.

Keep it up Lennie. It's been a slow week.

Putz. Say Hi to Mrs Putz for me.

Steve

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