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Len Over 21 wrote:
Oh, but I'm very much a part of U.S. amateur radio and I've been part of amateur radio in five other countries. You aren't part of amateur radio anywhere on the planet. You aren't a part of the ARRL. Your connections to amateur radio are simply that you've commented to the FCC about the service in which you do not participate and that you post here. Oh, my, another tyrant ranting away. Tyrant? For pointing out facts? Go over that paragraph again. Anything there you'd like to dispute? The FCC is "not a part of amateur radio," merely the regulation of every civil radio service in the United States. 1. The FCC regulates amateur radio. FCC staffers are paid to do so. So at least some individuals at the FCC are involved in amateur radio. 2. I am a radio amateur. Thus I am involved in amateur radio. 3. You are not a radio amateur and you are not employed by the FCC. You have nothing to do with amateur radio. The First Amendment gives me a number of rights. Exclusion from discussing those with anyone or my government is NOT under your control. Not at any time, herr tyrant. When was it that you were excluded? You "discussed" (albeit one-way, from you to the FCC) with your government. Now, force the FCC to listen or act on your views. Maybe you can claim that your First Amendment Rights were abridged. There are mechanisms in the U.S. Constitution for removing the rights of citizens. Those are called "amendments." Do you think you could ever, with or without force, make such an amenedment? I have no desire to make an "amenedment", you "synchophant". Why are you so "beligerent", "Atila"? Why do you keep trying to be a tyrant? I'm not. I'm waiting for a group decision from you on whether or not I've achieved radio god status. Is that due to some mental illness? If so, get help fast. You keep accusing others of mental illness. Ask you wife what it means when you begin to believe that others are crazy. Now be a good boy and go our and play in the radio sandbox with your other "fellow hams." I hear the seven-year-old extra is nice. We're pretty near the gist of things. There are ninety-five-old hams. There are twelve-year-old hams. There are folks in their thirties, forties, fifties, sixties and seventies who are hams. Those of us in the (amateur) radio sandbox play together pretty well. You aren't one of those hams and you don't play well with others. You can sit alone in your sandbox. Dave K8MN |
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In article , Dave Heil
writes: Loon Over 21 wrote: In article , Dave Heil writes: Jim, Are you forwarding these messages via LHA's home version of ADA? ADA is the callsign of Headquarters, United States Army Pacific, Fort Shafter, Hawaii. That callsign has been active since 1946 and in continuous use all this time, connected with area command headquarters in the Pacific region. Why do you insist on making fun of the United States Army? Oh, you simply misunderstood once again. I wasn't poking fun at the Army. I was poking fun at you personally, Leonard. You consistently poke fun at anyone who opposes your opinions... save on NON-radio discussions in here which have nothing to do with any policy subjects. You MAKE FUN of the United States Army because a veteran of that service branch was assigned to ADA for three years and did not kiss your [expletive deleted] godhood in reverence. You MAKE FUN of the United States Army because they and the other branches dropped morse code for fixed-point to fixed-point communications back in 1948. You MAKE FUN of the United States Army because they had HF radio facilities a half century ago that makes the entirety of the United States Department of State look puny in re communications. You MAKE FUN of professionals in the firield of electronics because you consider your amateur status as "better" than professionals. All you can do, besides gabble about NON-radio subjects in here, is to MAKE FUN of anyone you disagree with. Your "fun" is really a pathetic attempt at humiliation which does not have the effect you desire. It did not six years ago and does not do so now. You don't, or can't discuss any policy subject at length, only call those who disagree with you names and try to insult them. You are an amateur extra, a shining role model for the amateur community. Shrug. Not good for the amateur image to make others be like you. LHA / WMD |
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Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , Dave Heil writes: Loon Over 21 wrote: In article , Dave Heil writes: Jim, Are you forwarding these messages via LHA's home version of ADA? ADA is the callsign of Headquarters, United States Army Pacific, Fort Shafter, Hawaii. That callsign has been active since 1946 and in continuous use all this time, connected with area command headquarters in the Pacific region. Why do you insist on making fun of the United States Army? Oh, you simply misunderstood once again. I wasn't poking fun at the Army. I was poking fun at you personally, Leonard. You consistently poke fun at anyone who opposes your opinions... save on NON-radio discussions in here which have nothing to do with any policy subjects. You keep trying to make this about a group of people. It isn't. It is about you. You MAKE FUN of the United States Army because a veteran of that service branch was assigned to ADA for three years and did not kiss your [expletive deleted] godhood in reverence. No, I haven't made fun of the Army. You keep trying to involve others. It is about you. You MAKE FUN of the United States Army because they and the other branches dropped morse code for fixed-point to fixed-point communications back in 1948. No, the Army isn't involved. There's only you. You MAKE FUN of the United States Army because they had HF radio facilities a half century ago that makes the entirety of the United States Department of State look puny in re communications. Neither the Army nor the Department of State has anything to do with this. There's only you. You MAKE FUN of professionals in the firield of electronics because you consider your amateur status as "better" than professionals. Not at all. I spent a career as a profession in the "firield" of electronics. My professional career and my decades as a radio amateur are not linked. As a radio amateur, I never thought I was better than myself as a professional. But enough of this, the issue is you. While you worked as a professional in radio, you've never been a part of amateur radio. All you can do, besides gabble about NON-radio subjects in here, is to MAKE FUN of anyone you disagree with. Wrong again, Mr. One Track. This isn't about "anyone I disagree with". It is about you, Leonard H. Anderson, self-proclaimed advocate for something-or-other in amateur radio. Your "fun" is really a pathetic attempt at humiliation which does not have the effect you desire. It did not six years ago and does not do so now. Check your wayback machine, Len. It has been well in excess of six years. You come off as pompous and condescending. You'd like to convince us that no one here can possibly know as much as you about radio. You'd have us believe that we should accept your view of how amateur radio should be regulated, yet you aren't a part of amateur radio at all. That and you're easy to humiliate. You don't, or can't discuss any policy subject at length, only call those who disagree with you names and try to insult them. We can always count on you for a laugh, kindly old pirhana. Tell us how you conduct yourself and why you so frequently draw fire. You are an amateur extra, a shining role model for the amateur community. And you are not. You're not a Novice. Your'e not a Tech. You're not a General. You're not an Advanced. You aren't a participant. Shrug. Not good for the amateur image to make others be like you. How would you know? You aren't involved. Dave K8MN |
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In article , Dave Heil
writes: You are an amateur extra, a shining role model for the amateur community. And you are not. You're not a Novice. Your'e not a Tech. You're not a General. You're not an Advanced. You aren't a participant. I am an electronics engineer, working for pecuniary interest, but no longer at regular hours. I am also a hobbyist without pecuniary compensation. I've been involved with radio and electronics, both with and without pecuniary interest since 1947. I am not a ham. I have a beef with certain U.S. government laws. You keep fishing for trolls and aren't taking your meds. How would you know? You aren't involved. Right. U.S. amateur radio is a SECRET, classified service which NO outsider can possibly know about, therefore no one can comment unless they have an amateur license. Right. NOBODY can become involved unless they are already involved. Right. In order to "show interest in radio," everyone has to learn morse code and get a ham license. It is impossible to have any "interest" in radio through a working career in radio or electronics. The ham license is absolutely mandatory "to show interest in radio." Right. Right. The First Amendment of the United States Constitution states that no citizen can comment about any amateur radio regulations unless they already possess an amateur radio license. Right. I am so glad you "explained" all of those things. [it's like LOTR code] Has the ARRL approached you for more hints in generating interest in getting "interested in radio" as you've outlined in here? No? That's so interesting. |
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In article , Dave Heil
writes: You are an amateur extra, a shining role model for the amateur community. And you are not. You're not a Novice. Your'e not a Tech. You're not a General. You're not an Advanced. You aren't a participant. I am an electronics engineer, working for pecuniary interest, but no longer at regular hours. I am also a hobbyist without pecuniary compensation. I've been involved with radio and electronics, both with and without pecuniary interest since 1947. I am not a ham. I have a beef with certain U.S. government laws. You keep fishing for trolls and aren't taking your meds. How would you know? You aren't involved. Right. U.S. amateur radio is a SECRET, classified service which NO outsider can possibly know about, therefore no one can comment unless they have an amateur license. Right. NOBODY can become involved unless they are already involved. Right. In order to "show interest in radio," everyone has to learn morse code and get a ham license. It is impossible to have any "interest" in radio through a working career in radio or electronics. The ham license is absolutely mandatory "to show interest in radio." Right. Right. The First Amendment of the United States Constitution states that no citizen can comment about any amateur radio regulations unless they already possess an amateur radio license. Right. I am so glad you "explained" all of those things. [it's like LOTR code] Has the ARRL approached you for more hints in generating interest in getting "interested in radio" as you've outlined in here? No? That's so interesting. |
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Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , Dave Heil writes: You are an amateur extra, a shining role model for the amateur community. And you are not. You're not a Novice. Your'e not a Tech. You're not a General. You're not an Advanced. You aren't a participant. I am an electronics engineer, working for pecuniary interest, but no longer at regular hours. I am also a hobbyist without pecuniary compensation. Right. There you go back into your professional background. That isn't amateur radio. Lots of us are hobbyists in any number of fields. You're some kind of hobbyist. You aren't a radio amateur. I've been involved with radio and electronics, both with and without pecuniary interest since 1947. Bully for you. You haven't been involved in amateur radio at all. I am not a ham. I have a beef with certain U.S. government laws. ....and I'm certain that the FCC and all of hamdom are just sick over that. I guess you really showed us, huh? You keep fishing for trolls and aren't taking your meds. I keep fishing and I keep getting bites. You, after all, seem to be the "Big Fish". Shrug. Not good for the amateur image to make others be like you. How would you know? You aren't involved. I returned your snipped line to its rightful place. We wouldn't want you to mislead others now, would we? Right. U.S. amateur radio is a SECRET, classified service which NO outsider can possibly know about, therefore no one can comment unless they have an amateur license. You can read up on it in "Now You're Talking". Right. NOBODY can become involved unless they are already involved. Wrong. NOBODY can become unvolved until they take steps to do so. You can read up on astronomy. That alone does not make you an astronomer. You can peruse magazines and books on auto repair. Those things alone do not make you a car mechanic. Right. In order to "show interest in radio," everyone has to learn morse code and get a ham license. Wrong. You've been corrected on this same mis-statement of yours on a number of occasions. It is "interest in AMATEUR radio", Leonard. Neither your decades-long "interest" nor your "Extra right out of the box" boast of several years ago have resulted in your having taken a single step toward obtaining even the most basic level of amateur radio license. It is impossible to have any "interest" in radio through a working career in radio or electronics. The ham license is absolutely mandatory "to show interest in radio." Right. Wrong. See my comments above. Right. The First Amendment of the United States Constitution states that no citizen can comment about any amateur radio regulations unless they already possess an amateur radio license. Right. You've commented. End of involvement. I am so glad you "explained" all of those things. [it's like LOTR code] Has the ARRL approached you for more hints in generating interest in getting "interested in radio" as you've outlined in here? A number of them did merit explanation after you attempted to twist them into something else. It is "interested in AMATEUR radio". Why do you persist in deleting that very important word? No? That's so interesting. You've misdefined your interest. You have interest in internet newsgroup posting. You have interest in outlining your past professional glories. You aren't involved in amateur radio. Dave K8MN |
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In article , Dave Heil
determined to be as snarly as possible scribbles in crayon: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , Dave Heil writes: You are an amateur extra, a shining role model for the amateur community. And you are not. You're not a Novice. Your'e not a Tech. You're not a General. You're not an Advanced. You aren't a participant. I am an electronics engineer, working for pecuniary interest, but no longer at regular hours. I am also a hobbyist without pecuniary compensation. Right. There you go back into your professional background. I've been working on that professional background for 51 years. :-) That isn't amateur radio. That isn't HAM radio, sweetums. "Amateur" is defined as "without pecuniary interest." Even the FCC defines amateur radio that way. Lots of us are hobbyists in any number of fields. You are out standing in your field now. You're some kind of hobbyist. You aren't a radio amateur. Poor baby. Still so confused, scrunching up his fat little fingers, bound and determined to Have His Way! :-) Hobbyists in radio are defineable as amateurs in radio if they do not make any income from it. LICENSES in amateur radio are required to transmit RF on allocated amateur radio bands in order to be legal with the federal government. Poor baby, doesn't understand that amateur radio licenses are NO GOOD outside of allocated amateur bands. That's true. Anyone can verify that with Title 47 Code of Federal Regulations, especially in Parts 1 and 2.. Did you know that the federal government can operate all kinds of RF emitters without having ANY operators licensed? True. A ham license there isn't worth the price of a ham sandwich. No criminal liability! Don't you just HATE it when your rant gets destroyed? I've been involved with radio and electronics, both with and without pecuniary interest since 1947. Bully for you. You haven't been involved in amateur radio at all. :-) I haven't been involved in LICENSED amateur radio. Too bad I can't bring up Jim Fisk as a reference (he is SK). I don't know about Alf Wilson, W6NIF, or Rich Rosen. They were rather involved with HAM RADIO. :-) I guess you really showed us, huh? That's not difficult. :-) I returned your snipped line to its rightful place. We wouldn't want you to mislead others now, would we? Anyone can read these public postings without your selective editing. :-) You don't seem to comprehend half of it, but that's quite another problem and all yours. Right. U.S. amateur radio is a SECRET, classified service which NO outsider can possibly know about, therefore no one can comment unless they have an amateur license. You can read up on it in "Now You're Talking". Morsemanship isn't "talking." It's beeping. Right. NOBODY can become involved unless they are already involved. Wrong. NOBODY can become unvolved until they take steps to do so. You can read up on astronomy. That alone does not make you an astronomer. Oh? Astronomers need to be "licensed" and take a morse test? I don't think so. But, if your false statement makes you happy, why should I upset your nirvana? [you might research "astronomy" and who spots what, but that would make you see stars...] You can peruse magazines and books on auto repair. Those things alone do not make you a car mechanic. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! Riiiiight. I guess Kragen and all those auto parts stores are doomed for lack of sales, right? :-) Right. In order to "show interest in radio," everyone has to learn morse code and get a ham license. Wrong. You've been corrected on this same mis-statement of yours on a number of occasions. It is "interest in AMATEUR radio", Leonard. Noooo, noooo. You are desperately trying to hang on but are inexorably drawn over the edge. It's a very long drop below you... LICENSED amateur radio is what you are trying (vainly) to say and then only to be legal with the federal government on transmitting RF energy WITHIN allocated amateur radio bands. As the FCC explains, an amateur radio license is NOT required for transmitting RF energy outside of amateur radio bands. That sort of thing is quite illegal. :-). That's only for CIVILIAN radio services and the FCC has NO jurisdiction over government users of radio. But, did you know that UNLICENSED civilians can use certain allocated radio bands and transmit RF energy without taking a single test? True! Been several of those since 1958! Ask the FCC about non-amateur radio services if you are too "involved" in amateur radio activity to go look it up. :-) Neither your decades-long "interest" nor your "Extra right out of the box" boast of several years ago have resulted in your having taken a single step toward obtaining even the most basic level of amateur radio license. Poor baby. Still angry over the past? You STILL can't understand why I am here. I've explained it enough times, but your have this set-in-concrete mind that can't get flexible enough to understand. Tsk, tsk, tsk. If you are still munching cashews from your glorious middle Africa "Foreign Service" days, I'd throw them out...either than or too much beeping has affected your mind. [Guinea-Bisseau is the African center for cashew exporting...about their best export...] Right. The First Amendment of the United States Constitution states that no citizen can comment about any amateur radio regulations unless they already possess an amateur radio license. Right. You've commented. End of involvement. Not even close to the "end." "Comments" are NOT "involvement" even in your distorted little Middle Earth view, Frodo. [you aren't Golem, but the resemblance is there] A number of them did merit explanation after you attempted to twist them into something else. It is "interested in AMATEUR radio". Why do you persist in deleting that very important word? Sigh..."amateur" refers to an activity without pecuniary interest. The FCC uses those same words. [the FCC granted your amateur radio license] The word "amateur" (with or without all-capitals) does not explicitly say TRANSMISSION OF RF ENERGY IN ALLOCATED AMATEUR RADIO BANDS. Your prized amateur radio license is NO GOOD for legal transmission of RF energy OUTSIDE of allocated amateur bands. In fact, in some U.S. civilian radio services it is perfectly legal to transmit RF energy WITHOUT a license of any kind!!! Sunovagun! Poor baby. Another Heilian rant shot down in flames. You've misdefined your interest. Not me. YOU. All wrong, Golem...er, I mean Frodo. I HAVE defined my "interest" quite correctly. That you totally refuse to believe it is not my problem. Yours. Your intellectual presbyopia is glaringly obvious. You have interest in internet newsgroup posting. No more so than regular physical exercise. :-) I have lots of interest in my bank. I have monetary interest elsewhere. You have interest in outlining your past professional glories. Tsk, tsk, tsk, very subjective use of adjectives on your part. I've spent 51 years in professional radio-electronics activity and none of it can qualify as "glorious." Intellectually INTERESTING, yes, and some of it quite enjoyable. If some of it was more involved than what you did, TS, that's the breaks of life. Maybe your distemper is flaring up again because I got assigned to a very large HF transmitting facility while in the U.S. Army...and got rank and responsibility operating many high-powered HF transmitters. 51 years ago. Before your first hamme raddio license. TS for you. You aren't involved in amateur radio. Not involved in TRANSMITTING RF ENERGY ON ALLOCATED HAM BANDS, true. :-) TRANSMIT, Baggins, TRANSMIT. Like in legal RF energy within those tight, confining HF band bounds. I'm just advocating the elimination of morse code testing for any radio license but you desperately want to make that some kind of grande production of drama and pathos, a giant mountain built out of a mole hill of your old morse message blanks. Tsk, tsk, tsk, you try such theatrics! Do you have an interest in the theater? :-) I'll just put you down in the same emotional category as other emotionally-seven-year-old Extras. Those are very "involved" as long as their attention spans last... :-) LHA / WMD |
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