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wrote: From: "bb" on Wed,May 4 2005 4:13 pm wrote: From: "K0HB" on Tues,May 3 2005 5:59 pm "bb" wrote The ARRL is about HF radio using Morse Code. Bull****. In the face of REALITY of years of published fact that Brian is right, I "hurl your opinion aside with great force!" Yup, everyone just got through saying that there's a problem attracting Technicians to the organization. No one seems to be able to put their finger on exactly why, only because they reject the -correct- answer (reminds me of the OJ case). And they still wring their hands and bite their knuckles and ask, "Why?" It's awful. Those olde-tymers just CAN'T understand why all the newcomers DON'T worship the olde-tymers' ideals of long ago. Hell, I'm OLDER than most of them and I STARTED on HF...but NOT doing a bit of "CW." :-) And so they still search for the answer. The answer will only be meaningful if they work hard for it (uphill both ways). Sufficient time must pass for them to forget what you or I have said, and for them to arrive at the answer independantly. To borrow from Edison: 100% perspiration, 0% inspiration. OK, I'll rephrase the answer. The ARRL may not be just about HF radio using Morse Code, but the Technicians think it is. Hi! Sheds a whole new light on the subject. How about that for fair play? Works for me. :-) Does definitely NOT work for those olde-tyme morsemen locked into the standards and practices of seven decades ago...they're still scratching their balding heads wondering why the rest of the radio world gave up on "CW." Maybe one day, once they forget that you told them why already, they'll arrive at that answer independantly, too. Well, they have their imaginary universes locked up in their heads. They seem to be happy in their status quondam... I give up. |
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From: "bb" on Thurs,May 5 2005 6:51 pm
wrote: From: "bb" on Wed,May 4 2005 4:13 pm wrote: From: "K0HB" on Tues,May 3 2005 5:59 pm etc It's awful. Those olde-tymers just CAN'T understand why all the newcomers DON'T worship the olde-tymers' ideals of long ago. Hell, I'm OLDER than most of them and I STARTED on HF...but NOT doing a bit of "CW." :-) And so they still search for the answer. So far, all I see is RATIONALIZATION for the alleged efficacy of morse code. LOTS and LOTS of old-style BS that went invalid around 1950 or so. For the BRAINWASHED, their "search" is ONLY through the olde-tymer's Rah-Rah on how "CW gets through when nothing else will..." :-) They can't think any different...the conditioned thinking (fancy word for brainwashing) is too strongly embedded. The answer will only be meaningful if they work hard for it (uphill both ways). Oh, it's MUCH more than that! Example - "Work HARD [at ham radio] to show DEDICATION and COMMITMENT to the 'amateur community!'" :-) That's a typical conditioned thinker output, imagining they are part of some "service" to the nation, a "corps" a la some military force. It's all ARTIFICIALITY, this group-think. Amateur radio is a HOBBY, a recreational pursuit involving radio, done for personal pleasure. Brainwashing (by guess who) has conditioned the mental activity of many that it is much more than a "mere" hobby. So...the conditioned thinkers allow themselves to be led into an imaginary state of "importance" and "service" to justify their having fun with their radio sets. They perceive themselves as "better" than other humans/citizens and are therefore "superior." [some NEED that self-applied tag of "superior"] Sufficient time must pass for them to forget what you or I have said, and for them to arrive at the answer independantly. Not for those morsemen who won't give in until the morse key is pried out of their cold, dead fingers. Some just cannot go along with reality. To borrow from Edison: 100% perspiration, 0% inspiration. Well, not quite that exaggerated on values... :-) But darn close! :-) Does definitely NOT work for those olde-tyme morsemen locked into the standards and practices of seven decades ago...they're still scratching their balding heads wondering why the rest of the radio world gave up on "CW." Maybe one day, once they forget that you told them why already, they'll arrive at that answer independantly, too. I'm basically an optimist that a few will see and understand. Unfortunately, too many are stuck in their own ego-boo (self boasting) of "excellence" at morsemanship that they cannot possibly see the rest of the world. The rest of the radio world HAS given up on morse code. None of them in that great big outer world "needed to learn CW" in order to show them it was too slow, too error prone to be worth applying to REAL communications. Once, long ago, when there was NOTHING ELSE in radio, morse code was good. None of the morse proponents were ever alive in those long-ago days so they can't speak of personal activity of such morsemanship. Amateur morsemen just cannot be convinced of any of that. Most live in the fantasy that this new millenium is still using the standards and practices of the 20s and 30s..."keeping the 'tradition'" and all that while they refuse to learn what today is all about. Several things are operative with these morsemen: The strongest of them ARE skilled at morsemanship and they have a NEED to be recognized for that... much more than just being satisfied by themselves. They MUST have many giving them honor and respect for their accomplishments. They will prioritize their skill as "above" any newcomer and thus will demand adherence to what they had to meet long ago; forget trying to change regulations with them. Some are just so brainwashed that it may be beyond medical science to get them to see reality. Mix all of those together (in various parts) and there's the "we're better than you 'no-coders'" nyah-nyahs because they fancy themselves as "REAL" hams. Homeboy stuff, "turf" staked out, and da boys in da 'hood are ready to FIGHT all that don't agree with their "superiority." So, we've got FLAME WARS in here. Not only that, we get re-runs of tired old cliches or the anonymous middle-schoolers who love to be kids again so they can cuss out others with NO sense of civility or comportment. A few of those (such as Barnabus Blowhard...or whatever IT is) making like some not-quite-funny Miss Manners chiding all the other children. :-) Well, they have their imaginary universes locked up in their heads. They seem to be happy in their status quondam... I give up. Never give up! :-) Of course, for those of us doing OTHER things (like trying to work with Win32 APIs and actual electronic hardware designs NOT written up in QST), there isn't enough time left to play with the adolescents "serving" in the mighty fifth branch of the military...the Archaic Radio- telegraphy Society (ARS), a "service to the nation!" :-) I salute all them...one finger at a time... |
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wrote: From: "bb" on Thurs,May 5 2005 6:51 pm wrote: From: "bb" on Wed,May 4 2005 4:13 pm wrote: From: "K0HB" on Tues,May 3 2005 5:59 pm etc It's awful. Those olde-tymers just CAN'T understand why all the newcomers DON'T worship the olde-tymers' ideals of long ago. Hell, I'm OLDER than most of them and I STARTED on HF...but NOT doing a bit of "CW." :-) And so they still search for the answer. So far, all I see is RATIONALIZATION for the alleged efficacy of morse code. LOTS and LOTS of old-style BS that went invalid around 1950 or so. So far the only two people I see beating anyone up over it is you and Brian. And no one is likely to want to talk to either of you...in ANY mode... The rest of us moved on. Huge snip of usual "I hate anyone who's not me" drivel snipped I salute all them...one finger at a time... Of course you're waving from the outside looking in...But we'd expect nothing less...It's all you've ever had to offer Amateur Radio. Steve, K4YZ |
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K4YZ wrote: wrote: From: "bb" on Thurs,May 5 2005 6:51 pm wrote: From: "bb" on Wed,May 4 2005 4:13 pm wrote: From: "K0HB" on Tues,May 3 2005 5:59 pm etc It's awful. Those olde-tymers just CAN'T understand why all the newcomers DON'T worship the olde-tymers' ideals of long ago. Hell, I'm OLDER than most of them and I STARTED on HF...but NOT doing a bit of "CW." :-) And so they still search for the answer. So far, all I see is RATIONALIZATION for the alleged efficacy of morse code. LOTS and LOTS of old-style BS that went invalid around 1950 or so. So far the only two people I see beating anyone up over it is you and Brian. And no one is likely to want to talk to either of you...in ANY mode... The rest of us moved on. Hi!!! Looks like Steve can't take any more of Steve-Style Abuse. Poor thing. Wonder why he thinks the rest of us like it? |
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bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: wrote: From: "bb" on Thurs,May 5 2005 6:51 pm wrote: From: "bb" on Wed,May 4 2005 4:13 pm wrote: From: "K0HB" on Tues,May 3 2005 5:59 pm etc It's awful. Those olde-tymers just CAN'T understand why all the newcomers DON'T worship the olde-tymers' ideals of long ago. Hell, I'm OLDER than most of them and I STARTED on HF...but NOT doing a bit of "CW." :-) And so they still search for the answer. So far, all I see is RATIONALIZATION for the alleged efficacy of morse code. LOTS and LOTS of old-style BS that went invalid around 1950 or so. So far the only two people I see beating anyone up over it is you and Brian. And no one is likely to want to talk to either of you...in ANY mode... The rest of us moved on. .. Looks like Steve can't take any more of Steve-Style Abuse. Poor thing. Wonder why he thinks the rest of us like it? There's a small difference there, Brian. When I make a mistake, I admit it. When you ask for information (other than about non-radio aspects of my military service), I tell you. You, on the other hand, are a habitual liar. As is Leonard H. Anderson. It really is THAT simple. Steve, K4YZ |
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K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: wrote: From: "bb" on Thurs,May 5 2005 6:51 pm wrote: From: "bb" on Wed,May 4 2005 4:13 pm wrote: From: "K0HB" on Tues,May 3 2005 5:59 pm etc It's awful. Those olde-tymers just CAN'T understand why all the newcomers DON'T worship the olde-tymers' ideals of long ago. Hell, I'm OLDER than most of them and I STARTED on HF...but NOT doing a bit of "CW." :-) And so they still search for the answer. So far, all I see is RATIONALIZATION for the alleged efficacy of morse code. LOTS and LOTS of old-style BS that went invalid around 1950 or so. So far the only two people I see beating anyone up over it is you and Brian. And no one is likely to want to talk to either of you...in ANY mode... The rest of us moved on. . Looks like Steve can't take any more of Steve-Style Abuse. Poor thing. Wonder why he thinks the rest of us like it? There's a small difference there, Brian. When I make a mistake, I admit it. Sometimes. Rarely. Eventually. But in the meantime, you assume that the other person is wrong and take great liberties in calling them names, accusing them of lying, question their manhood, and sometimes even infer that they are homosexual or pedophiles. Then you discover that you were wrong, and apologize for making a teeny weeny mistake. No harm, no foul, and never apologize for all of the mayhem you cause. You're a loser. |
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