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Dave Heil wrote: wrote: wrote: From: on Aug 28, 6:02 pm Dave Heil wrote: hot Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: wrote: wrote: From: on Aug 25, 2:42 pm K4YZ wrote: Dave Heil wrote: Frank Gilliland wrote: I've seen any number of Len's comments made to look like the product of one who has little experience. As Len has questioned your net control capabilities. Not quite true either side. I was citing Heil as a CONTROL FREAK that he appears to be from all his postings to me. Evident to all. Closing a net with CW? The only nets I've ever closed with CW were CW nets. More word play. I have experience in radio. A considerable amount. Most of it is PROFESSIONAL radio...that kind that pays money for services rendered. Heil must not equate government employ in the Department of State as "professional" yet he obviously got MONEY for that, PLUS living expenses. Obviously he's not professional. ...not any more. There aren't any professional radio amateurs. When did that end? Professional credentials don't get one a pass into amateur radio. What? Another set of redundant licensing requirements? I recall taking the GROL. Looked identical to the Amatuer Advanced exam. ...they claim that his opinions are simply no good because Len isn't a ham. Sometimes Len's opinions are no good because they are issued because he has no experience in amateur radio. Sometimes his opinions are no good because they are the rantings of a geezer with an ax to grind. Often, he makes factual errors and there have been numerous times when he deliberately fabricates. You want us to believe that all of Len's comments are to be discarded. Heil doesn't like my commenting, therefore I am to be "discarded," discredited, demeaned, and some other "d" I can't think of. :-) demonized. Deep-sixed. As in murdered? David Heil/K8MN is a primary culprit in that tactic, but Jim has used it as well. Oh no, I've by no means been "a primary culprit", but I have participated over a period of years. Can you guess how many times you've commented that Len isn't an amateur radio operator? He has a macro sentence generator for that. :-) And there is a purpose for his stating that you're not an amateur. There certainly is. It is to point out that Len isn't a radio amateur and that he has no experience in amateur radio. There must be somthing more to it than that. He is to amateur radio as a fishing rod to deer hunting. Dave K8MN You're not even close enough to be considered a poor analogue. |
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wrote I recall taking the GROL. Looked identical to the Amatuer Advanced exam. The GROL exam has Amateur Radio questions in it? I never knew that! Sunuvagun! Beep beep de Hans, K0HB |
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K=D8HB wrote: wrote I recall taking the GROL. Looked identical to the Amatuer Advanced exam. The GROL exam has Amateur Radio questions in it? I never knew that! Sunuvagun! Beep beep de Hans, K0HB You must be in league with the Four Morsemen. The physics of electronics and radio do not change with the type of license you test for. Best of luck. |
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Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: wrote: wrote: From: on Aug 28, 6:02 pm Dave Heil wrote: hot Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: wrote: wrote: From: on Aug 25, 2:42 pm K4YZ wrote: Dave Heil wrote: Frank Gilliland wrote: I've seen any number of Len's comments made to look like the product of one who has little experience. As Len has questioned your net control capabilities. Not quite true either side. I was citing Heil as a CONTROL FREAK that he appears to be from all his postings to me. Evident to all. Closing a net with CW? The only nets I've ever closed with CW were CW nets. More word play. Word play? Hardly. I've never participated in a State Department net on RTTY or CW. More word play. Clintonesque. Further down you just admitted to opening and closing RTTY net using CW on "another frequency." I have experience in radio. A considerable amount. Most of it is PROFESSIONAL radio...that kind that pays money for services rendered. Heil must not equate government employ in the Department of State as "professional" yet he obviously got MONEY for that, PLUS living expenses. Obviously he's not professional. ...not any more. There aren't any professional radio amateurs. When did that end? It never began. You should work on your facts. The W1AW operator is paid a salary to transmit on amateur frequencies. School teachers may make radio transmissions as a part of their paid instructions to students. Professional credentials don't get one a pass into amateur radio. What? Another set of redundant licensing requirements? They aren't redundant. They're for different services. Oh yeh, forgot the physics change with the different services. I recall taking the GROL. Looked identical to the Amatuer Advanced exam. Really? Were there lots of regulatory questions dealing with the amateur bands? There were lots of identical electronics and radio physics material. Identical to the Advanced exam. And whaddayaknow? The exam was administered by a famous VEC. Go figure? ...they claim that his opinions are simply no good because Len isn't a ham. Sometimes Len's opinions are no good because they are issued because he has no experience in amateur radio. Sometimes his opinions are no good because they are the rantings of a geezer with an ax to grind. Often, he makes factual errors and there have been numerous times when he deliberately fabricates. You want us to believe that all of Len's comments are to be discarded. Heil doesn't like my commenting, therefore I am to be "discarded," discredited, demeaned, and some other "d" I can't think of. :-) demonized. Deep-sixed. As in murdered? As in "deep-sixed". As in "murdered?" David Heil/K8MN is a primary culprit in that tactic, but Jim has used it as well. Oh no, I've by no means been "a primary culprit", but I have participated over a period of years. Can you guess how many times you've commented that Len isn't an amateur radio operator? He has a macro sentence generator for that. :-) And there is a purpose for his stating that you're not an amateur. There certainly is. It is to point out that Len isn't a radio amateur and that he has no experience in amateur radio. There must be somthing more to it than that. A read-between-the-lines guy like you would probably attempt to find a hidden meaning or agenda. This is what surprises me. Except for this, your agendas and double-standards are obvious. This one has me puzzled. He is to amateur radio as a fishing rod to deer hunting. You're not even close enough to be considered a poor analogue. It'd be tough to come up with something. I'm a long time participant in amateur radio. The closest Len can come is being an SWL. Well there you go! You could say that he is a "lurker" on the HF frequencies. That should sound nefarious enough to raise eyebrows. |
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Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: cut More word play. Word play? Hardly. I've never participated in a State Department net on RTTY or CW. More word play. Clintonesque. I fail to see any word play. I made a factual and concise statement of the truth. the very meaning of word play as word play. Nicely done Further down you just admitted to opening and closing RTTY net using CW on "another frequency." Yes, I did. I was not active on any CW or RTTY net. It can't be much more plain that that. so you closed a RTTY net that were not on with CW? the only plain meaning in there would saying you are nuts cut It never began. You should work on your facts. The W1AW operator is paid a salary to transmit on amateur frequencies. School teachers may make radio transmissions as a part of their paid instructions to students. Is the W1AW op paid to transmit? Are you certain? School teachers receive a salary for teaching, not for demonstrating amateur radio. more word play cut As in "deep-sixed". As in "murdered?" If "murdered" is what you want to write, then write it. You aren't going to twist my words. no one is trying to twist your words just trying to pin you down to what you mean Indeed I think most people have an easier time reading my stuff at its worst than reading your dreck cut |
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an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: cut More word play. Word play? Hardly. I've never participated in a State Department net on RTTY or CW. More word play. Clintonesque. I fail to see any word play. I made a factual and concise statement of the truth. the very meaning of word play as word play. Nicely done Further down you just admitted to opening and closing RTTY net using CW on "another frequency." Yes, I did. I was not active on any CW or RTTY net. It can't be much more plain that that. so you closed a RTTY net that were not on with CW? Thank you for pointing out my error. I closed a RTTY circuit by use of CW on another frequency. There was no net involved. the only plain meaning in there would saying you are nuts cut That would be the only meaning with which you could come up. Well... It never began. You should work on your facts. The W1AW operator is paid a salary to transmit on amateur frequencies. School teachers may make radio transmissions as a part of their paid instructions to students. Is the W1AW op paid to transmit? Are you certain? School teachers receive a salary for teaching, not for demonstrating amateur radio. more word play If you mean that I used words to respond, then you are correct. cut As in "deep-sixed". As in "murdered?" If "murdered" is what you want to write, then write it. You aren't going to twist my words. no one is trying to twist your words just trying to pin you down to what you mean I wrote what I meant in the first place. Brian is trying to get me to say another thing. Indeed I think most people have an easier time reading my stuff at its worst than reading your dreck I think you may have just written your biggest fabrication of all. Dave K8MN |
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Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: wrote: wrote: From: on Aug 28, 6:02 pm Dave Heil wrote: hot Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: wrote: wrote: From: on Aug 25, 2:42 pm K4YZ wrote: Dave Heil wrote: Frank Gilliland wrote: I've seen any number of Len's comments made to look like the product of one who has little experience. As Len has questioned your net control capabilities. Not quite true either side. I was citing Heil as a CONTROL FREAK that he appears to be from all his postings to me. Evident to all. Closing a net with CW? The only nets I've ever closed with CW were CW nets. More word play. Word play? Hardly. I've never participated in a State Department net on RTTY or CW. More word play. Clintonesque. I fail to see any word play. I made a factual and concise statement of the truth. You continue to hide behind nuance. Clintonesque. Further down you just admitted to opening and closing RTTY net using CW on "another frequency." Yes, I did. I was not active on any CW or RTTY net. It can't be much more plain that that. What is plain is your contradiction. I have experience in radio. A considerable amount. Most of it is PROFESSIONAL radio...that kind that pays money for services rendered. Heil must not equate government employ in the Department of State as "professional" yet he obviously got MONEY for that, PLUS living expenses. Obviously he's not professional. ...not any more. There aren't any professional radio amateurs. When did that end? It never began. You should work on your facts. The W1AW operator is paid a salary to transmit on amateur frequencies. School teachers may make radio transmissions as a part of their paid instructions to students. Is the W1AW op paid to transmit? Are you certain? School teachers receive a salary for teaching, not for demonstrating amateur radio. You need to come up to speed on the activities of your ARRL's transmitters. You might want to look up Rosalie White/Education at HQ as well. Well, maybe not at HQ anymore, but still working in the education capacity. Professional credentials don't get one a pass into amateur radio. What? Another set of redundant licensing requirements? They aren't redundant. They're for different services. Oh yeh, forgot the physics change with the different services. The regs, purpose, types of operation and requirements for licensing are different, aren't they? Not so different. I recall taking the GROL. Looked identical to the Amatuer Advanced exam. Really? Were there lots of regulatory questions dealing with the amateur bands? There were lots of identical electronics and radio physics material. Identical to the Advanced exam. And whaddayaknow? The exam was administered by a famous VEC. Go figure? So the only questions on the exam consisted of electronics and radio physics material? The questions and answers which were identical to the Advanced exam had to do with radio and electronics. ...they claim that his opinions are simply no good because Len isn't a ham. Sometimes Len's opinions are no good because they are issued because he has no experience in amateur radio. Sometimes his opinions are no good because they are the rantings of a geezer with an ax to grind. Often, he makes factual errors and there have been numerous times when he deliberately fabricates. You want us to believe that all of Len's comments are to be discarded. Heil doesn't like my commenting, therefore I am to be "discarded," discredited, demeaned, and some other "d" I can't think of. :-) demonized. Deep-sixed. As in murdered? As in "deep-sixed". As in "murdered?" If "murdered" is what you want to write, then write it. You aren't going to twist my words. I'm merely trying to understand what is in the mind of Heil. In any other context, when a person says "deep-sixed" it means murdered. But when Heil uses "deep-sixed," what does he mean? If only you weren't so Clintonesque. David Heil/K8MN is a primary culprit in that tactic, but Jim has used it as well. Oh no, I've by no means been "a primary culprit", but I have participated over a period of years. Can you guess how many times you've commented that Len isn't an amateur radio operator? He has a macro sentence generator for that. :-) And there is a purpose for his stating that you're not an amateur. There certainly is. It is to point out that Len isn't a radio amateur and that he has no experience in amateur radio. There must be somthing more to it than that. A read-between-the-lines guy like you would probably attempt to find a hidden meaning or agenda. This is what surprises me. Except for this, your agendas and double-standards are obvious. This one has me puzzled. Some things which you might think to be obvious, may not be obvious. Some things which you see as complex, could be simple. If only you weren't so Clintonesque. He is to amateur radio as a fishing rod to deer hunting. You're not even close enough to be considered a poor analogue. It'd be tough to come up with something. I'm a long time participant in amateur radio. The closest Len can come is being an SWL. Well there you go! You could say that he is a "lurker" on the HF frequencies. That should sound nefarious enough to raise eyebrows. Nothing nefarious need be written. Len's closest involvement with amateur radio is as SWL. He has told us that he has spoken over amateur radio stations but he has to beat feet and visit someone in order for a control op to permit his participation. Yeah, basically, Len can be an SWL. There's nothing wrong with that. I began as an SWL myself. Len is still a pre-beginner in amateur radio. Dave K8MN Welp, you have to start somewhere, and look where you ended up? An ARRL A1-Op working out of band Frenchmen on 6M from some rare real estate in Africa. Hi! |
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