On Dec 20, 11:35�am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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Eduardo - Serious question.

Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?

The unavailability radios, the low number of stations converting, the
dwindling dollars available, zero consumer interest and ethical
problems at the FCC - Not much to report. �2009 looks bleak also.
Where do you think it's headed?

IBiquity could spin the facts in previous years but it's going to be
tough this year. �Even if low power radios become available in 2009
(and they don't require huge external antennas to work) the window is
closing fast.

What would be the incentive for stations to convert or continue to pay
fees to iBiquity in 2009?

Most of the early adopter stations pay no fees or a very, very tiny fee. So
that's not an issue. Getting more stations is not an issue, either... 90% of
the US population is already covered. This is pretty much a major market
issue.

The only issue is getting receivers out. That is a marketing issue, and one
that depends on cheap, portable chipsets. In a recession, I don't see that
happening fast. �But I don't see WiMax happening fast, either, so there is a
wider window.

As to AM, the band is dying. The major format, news / talk is moving to FM
and what will be left will be drek. HD on AM at that point becomes
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Eduardo's hate for AM radio is obvious - many of the larger 50kw AM
stations are ranked #1, or are in the top-5, and aren't going
anywhere. The HD conversion has stalled - that was the original point
of HD, to get all stations to convert. I don't see WiMax as a huge
issue either - Verizon and AT&T already provide fast service to the
Internet. My boys just got the new Blackberry Storms and the Internet
is real fast. The FCC is dead-set on providing Internet services
nation-wide. Obama's administation is going after the FCC, and it is
only a matter of time when the HD Radio scandal gets investigated.

BoobleStubble wrote:

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Eduardo's hate for AM radio is obvious - many of the larger 50kw AM
stations are ranked #1, or are in the top-5, and aren't going
anywhere. The HD conversion has stalled - that was the original point
of HD, to get all stations to convert. I don't see WiMax as a huge
issue either - Verizon and AT&T already provide fast service to the
Internet. My boys just got the new Blackberry Storms and the Internet
is real fast. The FCC is dead-set on providing Internet services
nation-wide. Obama's administation is going after the FCC, and it is
only a matter of time when the HD Radio scandal gets investigated.

KNX sounds terrible. Before, when they faded a little bit, you hardly
noticed. Now, the Flubbermobile comes bubbling up every few seconds all
night long. Most annoying.

Dave wrote:
BoobleStubble wrote:

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Eduardo's hate for AM radio is obvious - many of the larger 50kw AM
stations are ranked #1, or are in the top-5, and aren't going
anywhere. The HD conversion has stalled - that was the original point
of HD, to get all stations to convert. I don't see WiMax as a huge
issue either - Verizon and AT&T already provide fast service to the
Internet. My boys just got the new Blackberry Storms and the Internet
is real fast. The FCC is dead-set on providing Internet services
nation-wide. Obama's administation is going after the FCC, and it is
only a matter of time when the HD Radio scandal gets investigated.

KNX sounds terrible. Before, when they faded a little bit, you hardly
noticed. Now, the Flubbermobile comes bubbling up every few seconds all
night long. Most annoying.

And yes, I live in the alleged service area. I'm maybe 40 miles North
of Redondo Beach.

"BoobleStubble" wrote in message
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Eduardo's hate for AM radio is obvious - many of the larger 50kw AM
stations are ranked #1, or are in the top-5, and aren't going
anywhere.

There are nearly no big AMs (power is not the issue... it's coverage) that
are in the top 5 in the sales demogaphics of 18 to 54. And, like 1A clear
channel KSL in Salt Lake city, they are moving as fast as they can to FM...
other 50 kw AMs that have done this are KIRO in Seattle and WWL in New
Orleans and WIBC in Indianapolis... some simulcast, like KSL and WWL, others
just abandon the format on AM as they go where the salable listeners are.

The HD conversion has stalled - that was the original pointof HD, to get
all stations to convert.

No, that was not. The objective was to get the viable FMs and AMs in the top
100 markets on, and with few, few exceptions, they are.


I don't see WiMax as a huge
issue either - Verizon and AT&T already provide fast service to the
Internet.

WiMax allows for high speed mobile internet. It will allow for the possible
success of internet only stations, local and national.

My boys just got the new Blackberry Storms and the Internet
is real fast.

No, it's not. And it requires being, pretty much, in a static location for
good reception.

The FCC is dead-set on providing Internet services
nation-wide.

That is opposite of the truth, as the Clearwire - Sprint deal proved
(although the two could not come to final terms)

On Dec 20, 5:41�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"BoobleStubble" wrote in message

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Eduardo's hate for AM radio is obvious - many of the larger 50kw AM
stations are ranked #1, or are in the top-5, and aren't going
anywhere.

There are nearly no big AMs (power is not the issue... it's coverage) that
are in the top 5 in the sales demogaphics of 18 to 54. And, like 1A clear
channel KSL in Salt Lake city, they are moving as fast as they can to FM....
other 50 kw AMs that have done this are KIRO in Seattle and WWL in New
Orleans and WIBC in Indianapolis... some simulcast, like KSL and WWL, others
just abandon the format on AM as they go where the salable listeners are.

�The HD conversion has stalled - that was the original pointof HD, to get
all stations to convert.

No, that was not. The objective was to get the viable FMs and AMs in the top
100 markets on, and with few, few exceptions, they are.

I don't see WiMax as a huge
issue either - Verizon and AT&T already provide fast service to the
Internet.

WiMax allows for high speed mobile internet. It will allow for the possible
success of internet only stations, local and national.

My boys just got the new Blackberry Storms and the Internet
is real fast.

No, it's not. And it requires being, pretty much, in a static location for
good reception.

The FCC is dead-set on providing Internet services
nation-wide.

That is opposite of the truth, as the Clearwire - Sprint deal proved
(although the two could not come to final terms)

"No, it's not. And it requires being, pretty much, in a static
location for
good reception. "

Oh really, funny that they use it in their cars. Same must apply to HD
radios in moving vehicles.

David Eduardo wrote:

"BoobleStubble" wrote in message
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Eduardo's hate for AM radio is obvious - many of the larger 50kw AM
stations are ranked #1, or are in the top-5, and aren't going
anywhere.

There are nearly no big AMs (power is not the issue... it's coverage)
that are in the top 5 in the sales demogaphics of 18 to 54. And, like 1A
clear channel KSL in Salt Lake city, they are moving as fast as they can
to FM... other 50 kw AMs that have done this are KIRO in Seattle and WWL
in New Orleans and WIBC in Indianapolis... some simulcast, like KSL and
WWL, others just abandon the format on AM as they go where the salable
listeners are.
While not a 1A, KSL's Phoenix sister KTAR has also moved their News/Talk
to FM.

"Dave" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"BoobleStubble" wrote in message
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Eduardo's hate for AM radio is obvious - many of the larger 50kw AM
stations are ranked #1, or are in the top-5, and aren't going
anywhere.

There are nearly no big AMs (power is not the issue... it's coverage)
that are in the top 5 in the sales demogaphics of 18 to 54. And, like 1A
clear channel KSL in Salt Lake city, they are moving as fast as they can
to FM... other 50 kw AMs that have done this are KIRO in Seattle and WWL
in New Orleans and WIBC in Indianapolis... some simulcast, like KSL and
WWL, others just abandon the format on AM as they go where the salable
listeners are.
While not a 1A, KSL's Phoenix sister KTAR has also moved their News/Talk
to FM.

Bonneville also moved 50 kw KIRO to FM and 50kw WTOP, too.

On Dec 20, 7:51�pm, Dave wrote:
David Eduardo wrote:

"BoobleStubble" wrote in message
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Eduardo's hate for AM radio is obvious - many of the larger 50kw AM
stations are ranked #1, or are in the top-5, and aren't going
anywhere.

There are nearly no big AMs (power is not the issue... it's coverage)
that are in the top 5 in the sales demogaphics of 18 to 54. And, like 1A
clear channel KSL in Salt Lake city, they are moving as fast as they can
to FM... other 50 kw AMs that have done this are KIRO in Seattle and WWL
in New Orleans and WIBC in Indianapolis... some simulcast, like KSL and
WWL, others just abandon the format on AM as they go where the salable
listeners are.

While not a 1A, KSL's Phoenix sister KTAR has also moved their News/Talk
to FM.

Eduardo is poo-pooing AM radio, because he knows that IBOC has been a
disaster, and that AM contains the successful news/talk/sports
formats. Large AM stations, such as WLW, serve many states - something
FMs can't claim. Yea, the AM dial is more than full of AM stations.
The FM dial is full, and only so many AMs can be moved/simulcast on FM.

"PocketRadio" wrote in message
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On Dec 20, 7:51�pm, Dave wrote:
David Eduardo wrote:

"BoobleStubble" wrote in message
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Eduardo's hate for AM radio is obvious - many of the larger 50kw AM
stations are ranked #1, or are in the top-5, and aren't going
anywhere.

There are nearly no big AMs (power is not the issue... it's coverage)
that are in the top 5 in the sales demogaphics of 18 to 54. And, like 1A
clear channel KSL in Salt Lake city, they are moving as fast as they can
to FM... other 50 kw AMs that have done this are KIRO in Seattle and WWL
in New Orleans and WIBC in Indianapolis... some simulcast, like KSL and
WWL, others just abandon the format on AM as they go where the salable
listeners are.

While not a 1A, KSL's Phoenix sister KTAR has also moved their News/Talk
to FM.

Eduardo is poo-pooing AM radio, because he knows that IBOC has been a
disaster, and that AM contains the successful news/talk/sports
formats.

Then why are they moving to FM? It's because their revenues are crashing on
AM because the salable age groups, under 55, don't listen to AM much. AM is
dead for those under 50.

Large AM stations, such as WLW, serve many states - something
FMs can't claim.

Anything outside the local metro is not salable, and thus, irrelevant. WLW's
day signal covers the metro and some distance beyond, but the revenue only
comes from the metro.

Yea, the AM dial is more than full of AM stations.
The FM dial is full, and only so many AMs can be moved/simulcast on FM.

The moves are being done by buying and reprogramming an FM, or reprogramming
one already owned. It's quite simple.

On Dec 20, 9:41�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"PocketRadio" wrote in message

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On Dec 20, 7:51 pm, Dave wrote:





David Eduardo wrote:

"BoobleStubble" wrote in message
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Eduardo's hate for AM radio is obvious - many of the larger 50kw AM
stations are ranked #1, or are in the top-5, and aren't going
anywhere.

There are nearly no big AMs (power is not the issue... it's coverage)
that are in the top 5 in the sales demogaphics of 18 to 54. And, like 1A
clear channel KSL in Salt Lake city, they are moving as fast as they can
to FM... other 50 kw AMs that have done this are KIRO in Seattle and WWL
in New Orleans and WIBC in Indianapolis... some simulcast, like KSL and
WWL, others just abandon the format on AM as they go where the salable
listeners are.

While not a 1A, KSL's Phoenix sister KTAR has also moved their News/Talk
to FM.

Eduardo is poo-pooing AM radio, because he knows that IBOC has been a
disaster, and that AM contains the successful news/talk/sports
formats.

Then why are they moving to FM? It's because their revenues are crashing on
AM because the salable age groups, under 55, don't listen to AM much. AM is
dead for those under 50.

Large AM stations, such as WLW, serve many states - something
FMs can't claim.

Anything outside the local metro is not salable, and thus, irrelevant. WLW's
day signal covers the metro and some distance beyond, but the revenue only
comes from the metro.

Yea, the AM dial is more than full of AM stations.
The FM dial is full, and only so many AMs can be moved/simulcast on FM.

The moves are being done by buying and reprogramming an FM, or reprogramming
one already owned. It's quite simple.- Hide quoted text -

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