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Old March 17th 04, 05:33 AM
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In article
ogers.com,
"Pierre L" wrote:

What if they just wanted a change of government?

So in the newspeak "war" to protect what we call democracy these days, we
can't just accept the result of an election for what it is?


You are not paying attention. The election is being called "an upset."
That should clue you in.

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Old March 17th 04, 08:22 AM
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No, it's ONLY the Wahabi sect of ISLAM that want you and your family
dead as doornails. I say, 'them first'.

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Old March 17th 04, 08:48 AM
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"Vic Martinez" wrote in message
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No, it's ONLY the Wahabi sect of ISLAM that want you and your family
dead as doornails. I say, 'them first'.


Let's not forget the Ayatollah Khomeini and those Shiite Muslims who
thought Khomeini was too soft. But you're right in that it's a minority
of Muslims who want us harmed. Still, human nature says there's a swing
group who wants to side with the winner. The attacks and election in
Spain have Al-Qaeda looking like they are on a roll.

Frank Dresser


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Old March 17th 04, 10:28 AM
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PL,

As is often Said after an Election: The People Have Spoken [.]

In this case... "The People" have Spoken in Spanish )

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= = = "Pierre L" wrote in message
= = = ble.rogers.com...

What if they just wanted a change of government?

So in the newspeak "war" to protect what we call democracy these days,
we can't just accept the result of an election for what it is?

Pete

"Robert Beck" wrote in message
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Spain is about to prove that a terror attack can get
countries to act as you wish. Thanks Spain


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Old March 17th 04, 01:25 PM
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The differnece between the United States and other countries is..

1. The US believes in protecting borders, language, and culture.
2. We do not want a one-world government or a one world nation
alliance.
3. We will not surrender to the radical islamic fanatics and let them
build there little religious (terror) institutions all over the place
and call us a racist if we don't like it.
4. Spain didn't close close to 3,000 in this terror attack, the US
lost over 3,000 in 9-11, so lets go and bomb the hell out of these
*******s.. to get even... the next time these towelheads attack we
will just go over there again and bomb the hell out of them even more.
Spain is already surrendering to the Islamics and socialists who
think oppression and radical islamic values brings sucess. (Look at
all the other radical islamic nations, they are still acting like they
did at the dawn of the stone age! Nothing is ever advanced) I've never
seen a communist nation that ever succeeded, even the socialist
nations are struggling, they have to find money to pay for "national
services) But to pay for free healthcare, the money HAS to come from
somewhere.. Dr's and surgeons do not work for free.

As Europe surrenders to the radical islam nation it will be up to the
United States to continue the fight against the one-world islamic
nation.


And yes.. "Sieg hail"


DxAce wrote in message ...
Barry Carlton wrote:

"DxAce" wrote in message
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So how does one respond to violence? Lay down and surrender?


One need not respond. Walk away. Or lay down and surrender if you'd
prefer.


I have but one thing to say... Sieg Heil

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm



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Old March 18th 04, 10:56 AM
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= = = ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote in message
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From:
(RedOctober90)

Name ANY Islamic nation whoose people enjoy a half decent quality of
living? Hmmm? All that comes out of these places are violence and
terror and oppression. Islam is a highly racist religion.



Brunei

MWB - Brunei ?
- Which is a Hereditary Monarchy that has NO Elections.
- Where Shari'a Law supersedes civil law.
- Where Women and Children ARE Property [.]
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/bx.html
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Saudi Arabia

MWB - Saudi Arabia ?
- Which is a Hereditary Monarchy that has NO Elections.
- Which is Governed according to Shari'a
[ Islamic Law for both Muslims and Non-Muslims. ]
- Where Women and Children ARE Property [.]
- Who has 25% Un-Employment for It's Own Citizens (Males).
- Where 35% of the Labor Force Population are 'foreign guest workers'.
- Where 30% of Women are Illiterate.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/sa.html
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United Arab Emirates

- Which are a group of Hereditary Monarchies that have NO Elections.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/tc.html
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Qatar

- Which is a Hereditary Monarchy - but has some Elections.
- Islamic Law (Shari'a) dominates family and personal matters.
[ Translation: Women and Children ARE Property. ]
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/qa.html
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MWB - The Topic is SPAIN and ISLAM (or the Islam-O-Baddies)

Christianity and the Klan are NON-SEQUITUR [.]
http://www.ucomics.com/nonsequitur/
Check-Out "Non-Sequitur" the Commic Strip )

And even Christianity has been used to incredibly racist ends.


MWB - NOT ON TOPIC [.]
[ Think, You Can Do Better Then This... ]
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Remember, Klan meetings start with a prayer.


MWB - NOT ON TOPIC [.]
[ Think, You Can Do Better Then This... ]
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Old March 18th 04, 11:24 AM
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From: (RHF)

MWB - The Topic is SPAIN and ISLAM (or the Islam-O-Baddies)

Christianity and the Klan are NON-SEQUITUR [.]
http://www.ucomics.com/nonsequitur/
Check-Out "Non-Sequitur" the Commic Strip )

And even Christianity has been used to incredibly racist ends.


MWB - NOT ON TOPIC [.]
[ Think, You Can Do Better Then This... ]
.
Remember, Klan meetings start with a prayer.


MWB - NOT ON TOPIC [.]
[ Think, You Can Do Better Then This... ]


No, he said Islam is inherently racist. I was simply pointing out that any
religion can be abused by racists. Klan meetings do, indeed, start with
prayers. Chrisitanity, for centuries, was used to justify non-democratic
governments. My point has not been refuted by you, RHF. It isn't Islam that is
bad, it's the way people choose to use it. Christianity, from a historical
perspective, provides plenty of examples of how it's been abused.


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
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Old March 18th 04, 11:56 AM
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ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote in message ...
From:
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So this is 'why' it is "Neccessary" to Kill ALL of the Enemy.

Dead Men Don't Fight [.]

So... We Can Have Peace )


So, earlier you suggest that all of Islam is responsible for the terrorists.


MWB - Yes First and Foremost Islam should clean-up its own house.
If Islam can NOT - Then the Targets of the Islam-O-Fascist have the
Right to Self-Defense: To protect themselves and Kill those who
would kill them. {NO Theology Required - Just Basic Human Nature.}
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Are you now suggesting that ALL of Islam is the Enermy and must DIE?


MWB - In A Word "NO"
{When I Suggest - I Will Use the Word Suggest ;-}
[ MWB - You Need Not Suggest For Me :]
BUT - If Islam would take care of the Islam-O-Fascist, there would
be fewer innocent individuals harmed. However, if the Targets of the
Islam-O-Fascist are 'forced-to-act' because Greater Islam will NOT
Act. Then the Death and Destruction will by its external nature,
result in the killing of more innocent individuals, this is the
sad truth about the nature of war. [ It Is The Will of ALLAH ! ]
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Shaking my head in sadness,


MWB - Stop Shaking Your Head - The Noise Level is up to "S10" +20dB )

As for the Sadness "MWB" That is Your Choice
Be Happy - Be Sad - [Be Blasé] = Just Be Yourself

For I Choose To Be 'me' "RHF" a Really Happy Fella )
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Louisville, KY
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The Truth is that Saudi Arabia and the Wahhabis Sect of Islam are behind:
* The Islamic Bomb Project.
* Al Quida and the various Islam-O-Fascist Terrorist Groups.
MWB - The VOA will not tell you the Truth and the Facts.
Try listening to the John Batchelor Show on ABC Radio Network.
http://www.abcradio.com/index.cfm?ba...id=63&cpid=179
http://www.abcradio.com/index.cfm?ba...id=63&cpid=174
Originating from WABC 770 kHz AM Talk Radio
http://www.wabcradio.com/showdj.asp?DJID=9178


TTHE ISLAM-O-FASCIST AND THE WAHHABI SECT OF SAUDI ARABIA:

Today's Reality Is: The Arab Terrorist have Killed 3000+ Americans
in the USA. These American's were simply Innocent Civilians. NOTE:
The Killing of Non-Military Targets that are simply "Infidels" is
Justified In The Name of God - Allah! That is the Arab Terrorist
MindSet that is kindled in the youth by the Wahhabi Sect in Saudia
Arabia and their Schools and Mosques around the World.

This is the True Nature of the Wahhabi Sect of Islam that is being
Taught and Funded by the Saudis throughout the World. About 60%
of the Mosques in the USA have Saudi funded leaders. That is a
potential 500 or more Terrorist Cells of three to five sleepers
right here in the USA.

The Wahhabis in Saudi Arabia have a basic tenet (teaching) to their
followers of this Sect of Islam. To Declare a Land or Nation an
Islamic State 'subject' to Islamic Law. Once this occurs then it is
Always an Islamic State and it is the Duty of Every Muslim throughout
the World to Restore it to an Islamic State and to Cast-Out or Kill
the Infidels that may be occupying the land. This is Islamo-Fascism
plain and simple.

MWB - The BBC & DW will not tell you the Truth and the Facts.
Try listening to the John Batchelor Show on ABC Radio Network.
http://www.abcradio.com/index.cfm?ba...id=63&cpid=179
http://www.abcradio.com/index.cfm?ba...id=63&cpid=174
Originating from WABC 770 kHz AM Talk Radio
http://www.wabcradio.com/showdj.asp?DJID=9178

To the Wahhabis Sect (Saudi Arabia) the Nation of SPAIN is a Lost
Land that must be Reclaimed for Islam 'by force' if necessary.

Francis Fukuyama has said "the present conflict is not simply a fight
against terrorism, nor against Islam as a religion or civilization,
but rather with Islamo-fascism-the radically intolerant and
anti-modern doctrine" that has arisen in the Muslim world. "A strong
finger of blame points at Saudi Arabia," Fukuyama contends. "Wahhabi
ideology easily qualifies as Islamo-fascism: a textbook mandated for
use in Saudi 10th-grade classes explains that 'it is compulsory for
Muslims to be loyal to each other and to consider the Infidels their
enemies.'"

To read about the "Wahhabis Sect" of Islam in Saudi Arabia.
WAHHABIS= http://www.csis.org/burke/saudi21/saudi_alkhobar.pdf

The Shari'ah (Sacred Law) and the Fiqh (Islamic Jurisprudence)
LAW= http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/law/shar...roduction.html

ir... ~ RHF
= I Remain... RHF [.]

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