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What about iBiquity? Are they not deeply in dept? It's one thing for
stations to see a return (if that's really happening as a "national
Hindi network" has very limited appeal) it's another for investors to
receive a return on their huge investment.

You have to separate iBiquity from the stations. iBiquity has relatively
little debt, and is financed with burn capital like most startups.

The radio stations are willing to continue HD programming, as they did for 3
decades with FM, in the hope the system will be more valuable.

It's hard to believe that
HD radio is holding on by anything but a thread. With less than 1
million radios sold after 6 or 7 years, and nothing new on the
horizon, how could anyone be persuaded by iBiquitys description of HD
radio as "Exciting"?

The low power chipsets are shipping, so 2009 should see both more varied
programming and new radios.

Realistically, to compare the iBiquity HD radio start-up to a
biomedical firm start-up doesn't make sense either. There’s lots of
discretionary money available for biomedical start-ups (I know because
I work for a pharmaceutical company) but broadcasting is another thing
altogether. Based on what I now about iBiquity they were convinced
that HD radio would be ubiquitous by now. I believe Bob Struble
boldly said that by 2009 / 2010 HD radio would be the norm. That
hardly seems likely to happen.

New FMs are still going on with HD, showing the interest. There was a lot of
HD enthusiasm at the NAB in Austin. And much of the startup money came from
radio itself... and technologt vc firms.

Trust me, I’m not trying to corner you but finding the truth is
difficult. Ibiquity is not a reliable source and most other sources
are very guarded on the subject.

Having seen a number of profitable HD channels, I think that as the
offerings mature, radios gradually come out, and channels are split to do
sub-let niche programming like the Hindi thing, there will be lots of
reasons to be happy with HD.

On Dec 20, 7:23*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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What about iBiquity? *Are they not deeply in dept? *It's one thing for
stations to see a return (if that's really happening as a "national
Hindi network" has very limited appeal) it's another for investors to
receive a return on their huge investment.

You have to separate iBiquity from the stations. iBiquity has relatively
little debt, and is financed with burn capital like most startups.

The radio stations are willing to continue HD programming, as they did for 3
decades with FM, in the hope the system will be more valuable.

It's hard to believe that
HD radio is holding on by anything but a thread. *With less than 1
million radios sold after 6 or 7 years, and nothing new on the
horizon, how could anyone be persuaded by iBiquitys description of HD
radio as "Exciting"?

The low power chipsets are shipping, so 2009 should see both more varied
programming and new radios.

Realistically, to compare the iBiquity HD radio start-up to a
biomedical firm start-up doesn't make sense either. *There’s lots of
discretionary money available for biomedical start-ups (I know because
I work for a pharmaceutical company) but broadcasting is another thing
altogether. *Based on what I now about iBiquity they were convinced
that HD radio would be ubiquitous by now. *I believe Bob Struble
boldly said that by 2009 / 2010 HD radio would be the norm. That
hardly seems likely to happen.

New FMs are still going on with HD, showing the interest. There was a lot of
HD enthusiasm at the NAB in Austin. And much of the startup money came from
radio itself... and technologt vc firms.

Trust me, I’m not trying to corner you but finding the truth is
difficult. *Ibiquity is not a reliable source and most other sources
are very guarded on the subject.

Having seen a number of profitable HD channels, I think that as the
offerings mature, radios gradually come out, and channels are split to do
sub-let niche programming like the Hindi thing, there will be lots of
reasons to be happy with HD.

"New FMs are still going on with HD, showing the interest. There was a
lot of HD enthusiasm at the NAB in Austin."

"NAB Radio Show Report" September 22nd, 2008

"There was continued top-down advocacy of HD Radio from David Rehr,
but little support from attendees, and even small signs of revolt on
the subject. It was good to see the clear disconnect on this issue, as
it is forcing radio’s leaders to look more diligently toward viable
solutions that fit the demands of today’s consumer, rather than
depending on a delegated entity to secure radio’s longevity."

http://tinyurl.com/4ynxyk

Oh, really?

"PocketRadio" wrote in message
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On Dec 20, 7:23 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

"New FMs are still going on with HD, showing the interest. There was a
lot of HD enthusiasm at the NAB in Austin."

"NAB Radio Show Report" September 22nd, 2008
.."

http://tinyurl.com/4ynxyk

Oh, really?

You really expect an opinion in favor of HD by a direct competitor of
terrestrial radio? The link you have posted goes to a site run by a
proponent of cellular programming delivery. They hate radio.

On Dec 20, 9:37*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"PocketRadio" wrote in message

...
On Dec 20, 7:23 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

"New FMs are still going on with HD, showing the interest. There was a
lot of HD enthusiasm at the NAB in Austin."

"NAB Radio Show Report" September 22nd, 2008
."

http://tinyurl.com/4ynxyk

Oh, really?

You really expect an opinion in favor of HD by a direct competitor of
terrestrial radio? The link you have posted goes to a site run by a
proponent of cellular programming delivery. They hate radio.

"Black Friday for HD Radio"

"Nor was I surprised when Kurt veered left to discuss - and dismiss -
HD Radio. What fascinated me was the reaction. Any room full of
broadcasters is full of HD radio doubters, nowadays. But the vibe in
this room was remarkable for the eye-rolling and audible snickering
that greeted virtually any mention of HD."

http://www.hear2.com/2008/03/this-weeks-desp.html

"Will Small Markets Convert to HD Radio? Survey Suggests Not Soon"

"Of the 100, he received 50 surveys back. Of those, only one station
had converted to HD-R. Eighty-six percent of the remaining respondents
indicated it would be highly unlikely or somewhat unlikely they would
convert their stations over the next 12 months, according to his
report. Six percent indicated it would be neither likely nor unlikely,
and only 6% indicated it would be likely, he told me. Most respondents
cited cost as the main factor prohibiting conversion; others felt the
technology had been overhyped and that FM analog is good enough in the
listeners’ minds, McIntyre says."

http://www.rwonline.com/leslie_report/

On Dec 20, 9:37�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"PocketRadio" wrote in message

...
On Dec 20, 7:23 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

"New FMs are still going on with HD, showing the interest. There was a
lot of HD enthusiasm at the NAB in Austin."

"NAB Radio Show Report" September 22nd, 2008
."

http://tinyurl.com/4ynxyk

Oh, really?

You really expect an opinion in favor of HD by a direct competitor of
terrestrial radio? The link you have posted goes to a site run by a
proponent of cellular programming delivery. They hate radio.

The HD Radio farce is up, Eduardo - 75+ countries have visited my
blog, including iBiquity investors, automakers, retailers,
manufacturers, the FCC, DOJ, US Courts, Congress, Congressional
Quarterly, consumer groups, radio groups, Government Agencies, radio
consultants, and of course CCU out of Austin. Here's the link to my
Google Analytics summary:

http://tinyurl.com/9365ho

I could only include 500, out of the 2,500 network locations:

http://tinyurl.com/a6mmdn

"PocketRadio" wrote in message
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75+ countries have visited my
blog, including iBiquity investors, automakers, retailers,
manufacturers, the FCC, DOJ, US Courts, Congress, Congressional
Quarterly, consumer groups, radio groups, Government Agencies, radio
consultants, and of course CCU out of Austin. Here's the link to my
Google Analytics summary:

I can visit Hugo Chavez' presidential website, but that does not mean I even
remotely like what Chavez says.

On Dec 20, 6:37*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"PocketRadio" wrote in message

...
On Dec 20, 7:23 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

"New FMs are still going on with HD, showing the interest. There was a
lot of HD enthusiasm at the NAB in Austin."

"NAB Radio Show Report" September 22nd, 2008
."

http://tinyurl.com/4ynxyk

Oh, really?

- You really expect an opinion in favor of HD
- by a direct competitor of terrestrial radio?
-
- The link you have posted goes to a site run
- by a proponent of cellular programming delivery.
- They hate radio.

$39+ USD per Month for a Cellfone
plus Extra $$$ for 'content' Ain't Free [.]

i-pod-u-not ~ RHF

On Dec 20, 9:32 pm, PocketRadio wrote:
On Dec 20, 7:23 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:



wrote in message

....

What about iBiquity? Are they not deeply in dept? It's one thing for
stations to see a return (if that's really happening as a "national
Hindi network" has very limited appeal) it's another for investors to
receive a return on their huge investment.

You have to separate iBiquity from the stations. iBiquity has relatively
little debt, and is financed with burn capital like most startups.

The radio stations are willing to continue HD programming, as they did for 3
decades with FM, in the hope the system will be more valuable.

It's hard to believe that
HD radio is holding on by anything but a thread. With less than 1
million radios sold after 6 or 7 years, and nothing new on the
horizon, how could anyone be persuaded by iBiquitys description of HD
radio as "Exciting"?

The low power chipsets are shipping, so 2009 should see both more varied
programming and new radios.

Realistically, to compare the iBiquity HD radio start-up to a
biomedical firm start-up doesn't make sense either. There’s lots of
discretionary money available for biomedical start-ups (I know because
I work for a pharmaceutical company) but broadcasting is another thing
altogether. Based on what I now about iBiquity they were convinced
that HD radio would be ubiquitous by now. I believe Bob Struble
boldly said that by 2009 / 2010 HD radio would be the norm. That
hardly seems likely to happen.

New FMs are still going on with HD, showing the interest. There was a lot of
HD enthusiasm at the NAB in Austin. And much of the startup money came from
radio itself... and technologt vc firms.

Trust me, I’m not trying to corner you but finding the truth is
difficult. Ibiquity is not a reliable source and most other sources
are very guarded on the subject.

Having seen a number of profitable HD channels, I think that as the
offerings mature, radios gradually come out, and channels are split to do
sub-let niche programming like the Hindi thing, there will be lots of
reasons to be happy with HD.

"New FMs are still going on with HD, showing the interest. There was a
lot of HD enthusiasm at the NAB in Austin."

"NAB Radio Show Report" September 22nd, 2008

"There was continued top-down advocacy of HD Radio from David Rehr,
but little support from attendees, and even small signs of revolt on
the subject. It was good to see the clear disconnect on this issue, as
it is forcing radio’s leaders to look more diligently toward viable
solutions that fit the demands of today’s consumer, rather than
depending on a delegated entity to secure radio’s longevity."

http://tinyurl.com/4ynxyk

Oh, really?

I heard that at the last NAB convention HD radio had little support
also - just a few very vocal nuisances. Most attendees just put up
with them.

wrote in message
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I heard that at the last NAB convention HD radio had little support
also - just a few very vocal nuisances. Most attendees just put up
with them.

Obviously, you were not there. The Austin NAB (not the Vegas one, which is
now nearly all TV) had more HD sessions and better attendance than any I
have seen. As always, the early technical sessions were well attended, too.
The only sessions with greater attendance were the PPM ones by Colman and a
couple of other guest presenters.

On Dec 20, 11:26�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

...
I heard that at the last NAB convention HD radio had little support
also - just a few very vocal nuisances. �Most attendees just put up
with them.

Obviously, you were not there. The Austin NAB (not the Vegas one, which is
now nearly all TV) had more HD sessions and better attendance than any I
have seen. As always, the early technical sessions were well attended, too.
The only sessions with greater attendance were the PPM ones by Colman and a
couple of other guest presenters.

There is no support for HD outside of the HD Alliance-owned stations,
and support from them is waining - we got you!