On Dec 20, 6:37*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Dec 20, 7:23 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

"New FMs are still going on with HD, showing the interest. There was a
lot of HD enthusiasm at the NAB in Austin."

"NAB Radio Show Report" September 22nd, 2008
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http://tinyurl.com/4ynxyk

Oh, really?

- You really expect an opinion in favor of HD
- by a direct competitor of terrestrial radio?
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- The link you have posted goes to a site run
- by a proponent of cellular programming delivery.
- They hate radio.

$39+ USD per Month for a Cellfone
plus Extra $$$ for 'content' Ain't Free [.]

i-pod-u-not ~ RHF

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On Dec 20, 11:52 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Dec 20, 11:26 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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I heard that at the last NAB convention HD radio had little support
also - just a few very vocal nuisances. Most attendees just put up
with them.

Obviously, you were not there. The Austin NAB (not the Vegas one,
which
is
now nearly all TV) had more HD sessions and better attendance than any
I
have seen. As always, the early technical sessions were well attended,
too.
The only sessions with greater attendance were the PPM ones by Colman
and
a
couple of other guest presenters.

Were you there?

Yes, but I was not a speaker this year.

Sorry I wasn't there. You must be a radio insider. What is it that
you do?

www.davidgleason.com

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On Dec 21, 12:00 am, wrote:
On Dec 20, 11:52 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:



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On Dec 20, 11:26 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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I heard that at the last NAB convention HD radio had little support
also - just a few very vocal nuisances. Most attendees just put up
with them.

Obviously, you were not there. The Austin NAB (not the Vegas one,
which
is
now nearly all TV) had more HD sessions and better attendance than
any I
have seen. As always, the early technical sessions were well
attended,
too.
The only sessions with greater attendance were the PPM ones by
Colman and
a
couple of other guest presenters.

Were you there?

Yes, but I was not a speaker this year.

Sorry I wasn't there. You must be a radio insider. What is it that
you do?

And what is it that you spoke on?

I said I did not speak this year. I had been on a research panel at NAB
Europe last fall, and they try to get variety in speakers and panelists.

I've been on NAB, RAB, NARBA, PRBA, AMA, AIR, R&R, Billboard and other
panels probably about 20 or so times, mostly on programming or management
subjects.

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On Dec 21, 12:00 am, wrote:
On Dec 20, 11:52 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:



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On Dec 20, 11:26 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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I heard that at the last NAB convention HD radio had little support
also - just a few very vocal nuisances. Most attendees just put up
with them.

Obviously, you were not there. The Austin NAB (not the Vegas one,
which
is
now nearly all TV) had more HD sessions and better attendance than
any I
have seen. As always, the early technical sessions were well
attended,
too.
The only sessions with greater attendance were the PPM ones by
Colman and
a
couple of other guest presenters.

Were you there?

Yes, but I was not a speaker this year.

Sorry I wasn't there. You must be a radio insider. What is it that
you do?

And what is it that you spoke on?

An example... http://www.davidgleason.com/2004_NAB.htm

On Dec 20, 9:51*am, BoobleStubble wrote:
On Dec 20, 11:35 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:



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Eduardo - Serious question.

Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?

The unavailability radios, the low number of stations converting, the
dwindling dollars available, zero consumer interest and ethical
problems at the FCC - Not much to report. 2009 looks bleak also.
Where do you think it's headed?

IBiquity could spin the facts in previous years but it's going to be
tough this year. Even if low power radios become available in 2009
(and they don't require huge external antennas to work) the window is
closing fast.

What would be the incentive for stations to convert or continue to pay
fees to iBiquity in 2009?

Most of the early adopter stations pay no fees or a very, very tiny fee.. So
that's not an issue. Getting more stations is not an issue, either... 90% of
the US population is already covered. This is pretty much a major market
issue.

The only issue is getting receivers out. That is a marketing issue, and one
that depends on cheap, portable chipsets. In a recession, I don't see that
happening fast. But I don't see WiMax happening fast, either, so there is a
wider window.

As to AM, the band is dying. The major format, news / talk is moving to FM
and what will be left will be drek. HD on AM at that point becomes
irrelevant.- Hide quoted text -

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Eduardo's hate for AM radio is obvious - many of the larger 50kw AM
stations are ranked #1, or are in the top-5, and aren't going
anywhere. *

- The HD conversion has stalled

- that was the original point
of HD, to get all stations to convert. I don't see WiMax as a huge
issue either - Verizon and AT&T already provide fast service to the
Internet. My boys just got the new Blackberry Storms and the Internet
is real fast. The FCC is dead-set on providing Internet services
nation-wide. Obama's administation is going after the FCC, and it is
only a matter of time when the HD Radio scandal gets investigated.

"BS" - Hello the Whole US Economy is S-T-A-L-L-E-D

The present Number of US American Radio Stations that are
Authorized to Transmit IBOC "HD" Digital Radio Signals :

* AM = 271 out of a Total of 4778 ~ 5.7% [1 in 17]
-fwiw- Ten Years Ago the Total AM Radio Stations
was 4727 {Decade Growth of 1.1%}

"David Eduardo" wrote in news:aye3l.11113$c45.6040
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AM is dead, the prime formats moving to FM.

Gives us BCB DXers a sporting chance.

Also, you are full of ****.

On Dec 21, 12:26 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Dec 20, 11:52 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Dec 20, 11:26 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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I heard that at the last NAB convention HD radio had little support
also - just a few very vocal nuisances. Most attendees just put up
with them.

Obviously, you were not there. The Austin NAB (not the Vegas one,
which
is
now nearly all TV) had more HD sessions and better attendance than any
I
have seen. As always, the early technical sessions were well attended,
too.
The only sessions with greater attendance were the PPM ones by Colman
and
a
couple of other guest presenters.

Were you there?

Yes, but I was not a speaker this year.

Sorry I wasn't there. You must be a radio insider. What is it that
you do?

www.davidgleason.com

OH - I see.........

"David Eduardo" wrote in
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The argument for that is a reach by the HD opponents, who have neither
logic not facts on their side.

By 2012, cars will have Internet radio stations available.

It's dying, and so are you.

On Dec 20, 2:41*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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Eduardo's hate for AM radio is obvious - many of the larger 50kw AM
stations are ranked #1, or are in the top-5, and aren't going
anywhere.

There are nearly no big AMs (power is not the issue... it's coverage) that
are in the top 5 in the sales demogaphics of 18 to 54. And, like 1A clear
channel KSL in Salt Lake city, they are moving as fast as they can to FM....
other 50 kw AMs that have done this are KIRO in Seattle and WWL in New
Orleans and WIBC in Indianapolis... some simulcast, like KSL and WWL, others
just abandon the format on AM as they go where the salable listeners are.

*The HD conversion has stalled - that was the original pointof HD, to get
all stations to convert.

No, that was not. The objective was to get the viable FMs and AMs in the top
100 markets on, and with few, few exceptions, they are.

I don't see WiMax as a huge
issue either - Verizon and AT&T already provide fast service to the
Internet.

WiMax allows for high speed mobile internet. It will allow for the possible
success of internet only stations, local and national.

My boys just got the new Blackberry Storms and the Internet
is real fast.

No, it's not. And it requires being, pretty much, in a static location for
good reception.

The FCC is dead-set on providing Internet services
nation-wide.

That is opposite of the truth, as the Clearwire - Sprint deal proved
(although the two could not come to final terms)

KCBS is now simulcasting on FM in the SF Bay Area and
KGO is watching as well as KSFO and others with so
many under-performing FM Radio Stations in SF Bay Area
and elsewhere : Will 'others' follow suit and take the first
step {Simulcast} to eventually becoming FM Only News &
Talk-Radio Stations ? ? ?

On Dec 20, 4:42*pm, Bob Dobbs wrote:
David Eduardo wrote:

AM is dead, the prime formats moving to FM.

Plenty of 50kw AMs left:

Not one is #1 in sales demos, and the programming is moving to FM, leaving
far less appealing fare on the AM, which will eventually, like the band,
die.

If AMBCB goes dead as you say,
there'll be plenty of pirates to fill that audience rich void.
All those receivers aren't going to just disappear.
Oh, and what's the timetable for the extinction of commercial AMBCBers,
seems my dial is full of them any night of the week?

--

Operator Bob
Echo Charlie 42

AM BCB will 'DIE' when there can be a an Orderly
Divestiture {Write-Off} of the Properties by the owning
Corporations. Give them to Churches and Write Them
"Off" as a Charitable Donation.

"AM" Radio : The "All Might" Radio Band ! ~ RHF