In article ,
(Brian Kelly) writes:

(N2EY) wrote in message
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In article ,

(Brian Kelly) writes:

(N2EY) wrote in message

Miniature is for poodles.

Yeah, like Audrey Hepburn.

How'd you know she was one of my favorites?

Your bio is in the members-only Bowling Team Captains website, they
know EVERYTHING about yew boy.

Not quite everyhting, but close enough.

How many FD QSOs you make so far with the little stuff? The Type 7 did
629 one year....

How many did it make last year?

About 300 in SS, in a half-hearted effort.

SOP for SS . .

Yup. This little puppy knows better than to run with the big dogs.

My Type 75A4/T4XB did 1,000-1,200 several times in the CQ WW CW.

Sure - with ten times the power

Lemmee know when you run into an SB-200 which does any such thing.
Maybe 450 watts out on a dry cold day. Max.

KW in and 450 W out...sigh...

and big antennas, in a contest twice as long as
SS or FD.
With all the comforts of home and a spotting net......

In a contest which is an order of magnitude tougher than SS never mind
silly FD. Radio picnic.

Maybe when *you* do it...

DX isn't my bag. Domestic contests are. One of the Barracuda Rules is that
you don't try to beat the other guy at his game, you get him to play your
game.

Pretty lame excuse for an excuse Micollis.

I got it from you. You made how many QSOs last FD?

How many you put in the log for 'RS?

None on my own. Turned out that more ops showed up than expected, five
plus me which rendered me surplus labor. They all know the logger
inside out which I don't know so I got attached to the primary run
station as it's second set of ears. On 20 & 40 with the legendary
W8FJ, incredible op that he is. 200/Hr rates no sweat. Name of my game
was to dredge callsigns up out of the muck when he didn't. Worked but
he didn't miss many. OhYeah, I got the dust knocked off my skills BIG
time! Which is the bottom-line reason I tripped to Glenmoore to burrow
in with this bunch. Mission accomplished. In spades.

I thought so!

Two-station HP category, 6,000+ q's, 11.3 meg, missed a one-weekend
5BDXCC by one lousy mult on 80. Howzatt for a shot at a "Clean Sweep"
eh?

Nice!

The big Q bands were 40 and 15. Well over 100 mults on 10M sunspot
counts be damned.

Tells ya sumthin. But the Final Authority wannabes tell us nobody uses Morse
anymore...

Went on after the 'test, Sig fired up on 3.830 immediately after the
closing bell to find out who beat who while we gnawed on steak
sammiches Mrs. Sig supplied. The Big Guns from all the clubs were on
freq, looney operation, guys jumped in with CW instead of SSB . . .
helluva lot of fun, all of it.

Dogpile!

I understand, now that you've 'splained it to me. We could use a
four-foot rack, turned on its side. That's going to be one expensive
stainless panel.

Fits in a two-footer vertically with room to spare.....

There ya go Dave, the four foot rack will work.

Twice over.

Until ya add the "transverters" for 160, 60, 30, 17, 15, 12 and 10M
which the thing cannot get on now.

Don't need mosta those bands anyway.

Then comes the "modulator" and the
serial port which it doesn't have either

Don't need those either.

. . Yeah, Dave. We'll need
plenty of cubic feet for this abomination.

And by the way Dave the dial in the thing is the rim of a plastic soup
bowl. Absolute truth, so help me.

Absolute lie. The Type 4 had a cereal bowl dial - but it was built more than 30
years ago. It was taken apart some time ago and its parts recycled.

The Type 7 uses a cap from a junked BC-221. The Type 6 and 5 used caps
from ARC-5 transmitters.

Dayum, another N2EY stroke of genius.

You betcha, cost me maybe $5 for the whole VFO assembly. Including spares.

Ya obviously got screwed.

Better'n some lame 5 to 1 slippy balldrive thing. Swords into plowshares,
anyway.

And here all us no-clues been
using these synthesizer thingeys, tsk, tsk, shame on us.

You had a synthesizer in 1972?

Hell no, but you still have a 1920s style "VFO" and the rest of us do
not.

Simple yet effective. Did someone say "phase noise"?

Anybody who doesn't know what knobs are for is a sick pup.

Exactly. I have each one's functions memorized. Plus they are ergonomically
designed.

Whoosh: Right over yer head.

Not at all. Each knob has a definite function, and despite the obvious
similarities each requires different treatment. A lesson which also applies to
radio.

No fatigue after hours of use.

I doubt that!

I'm still young.

Got rid of all my Johnson gear, though (sniff). Adventurer, Viking 2
with 122, Valiant.

Good riddance, they're probably doing splendidly on 27 Mhz by now.

Not at all. The Adventurer doesn't work 'phone, the Vikings (I had 2) went
to a ham pal, and the Valiant went to an AMer.

Yeah, yeah. I sold my Valiant to a ham and he went home and
immediately ran it into his 4 el. 11M quad.

That was a bit longer ago than I sold mine.

The one Viking 2 was used to make my one-and-only 160 QSO. But that's
another story....

Good, enough awready . .

Like it ever stopped *you*...

73 de Jim, N2EY

PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Brian Kelly) writes:

In a contest which is an order of magnitude tougher than SS never mind
silly FD. Radio picnic.

Maybe when *you* do it...

Go ahead, keep pushing yer luck . .

DX isn't my bag. Domestic contests are. One of the Barracuda Rules is that
you don't try to beat the other guy at his game, you get him to play your
game.

Pretty lame excuse for an excuse Micollis.

I got it from you. You made how many QSOs last FD?

I had equipment FUBARS, I did not wimp out because I was afraid to
take on "your game".

The big Q bands were 40 and 15. Well over 100 mults on 10M sunspot
counts be damned.

Tells ya sumthin. But the Final Authority wannabes tell us nobody uses Morse
anymore...

Pfft . . ! Lotta BS, the reality is obvious.

Until ya add the "transverters" for 160, 60, 30, 17, 15, 12 and 10M
which the thing cannot get on now.

Don't need mosta those bands anyway.

Then comes the "modulator" and the
serial port which it doesn't have either

Don't need those either.

Take that line of rationalizations out to it's obvious limit and ya
don't "need" a ham license either.


And by the way Dave the dial in the thing is the rim of a plastic soup
bowl. Absolute truth, so help me.

Absolute lie. The Type 4 had a cereal bowl dial - but it was built more than 30
years ago. It was taken apart some time ago and its parts recycled.

Abject apologies, I got yer abominations mixed up. Where did you get
the digital display for the S8?

You betcha, cost me maybe $5 for the whole VFO assembly. Including spares.

Ya obviously got screwed.

Better'n some lame 5 to 1 slippy balldrive thing. Swords into plowshares,
anyway.

Ever hear the terms "shaft encoder" or "PTO"?

Hell no, but you still have a 1920s style "VFO" and the rest of us do
not.

Simple yet effective. Did someone say "phase noise"?

Glad you brought that up. One of my objectives over the weekend was to
sniff out a whole list of ponderments I had on these sorts of topics.
Phase noise: Close to the end of the 'test on 40M the amp T/R relay
hung a couple times and I got to listen to the MP sans antenna. If the
weak hiss was in fact phase noise it was probably 20 dB. down from the
base QRN noise level in the band. Lesson: Given a decent radio phase
noise is never going to be the limiting factor in weak signal
reception anywhere around where thee or me live so fugeddit, yer VFO
is not a "solution" for some "phase noise problem".

Other pins they stuck in sacred balloons:

They don't use QSK, PTT works just fine.
The AGC is always ON.

73 de Jim, N2EY

w3rv

In article ,
(Brian Kelly) writes:

(N2EY) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Brian Kelly) writes:

In a contest which is an order of magnitude tougher than SS never mind
silly FD. Radio picnic.

Maybe when *you* do it...

Go ahead, keep pushing yer luck . .

Whata re ya gonna do - call me names?

DX isn't my bag. Domestic contests are. One of the Barracuda Rules is
that
you don't try to beat the other guy at his game, you get him to play
your game.

Pretty lame excuse for an excuse Micollis.

I got it from you. You made how many QSOs last FD?

I had equipment FUBARS, I did not wimp out because I was afraid to
take on "your game".

Equipment trouble is par for the course on FD. Part of the game, like bad
weather and insects.

The big Q bands were 40 and 15. Well over 100 mults on 10M sunspot
counts be damned.

Tells ya sumthin. But the Final Authority wannabes tell us nobody uses
Morse anymore...

Pfft . . ! Lotta BS, the reality is obvious.

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

While we're at it, check out my "WAR!" post in another thread...

Until ya add the "transverters" for 160, 60, 30, 17, 15, 12 and 10M
which the thing cannot get on now.

Don't need mosta those bands anyway.

Then comes the "modulator" and the
serial port which it doesn't have either

Don't need those either.

Take that line of rationalizations out to it's obvious limit and ya
don't "need" a ham license either.

Sure ya do. The line is drawn when you get on the air.

And by the way Dave the dial in the thing is the rim of a plastic soup
bowl. Absolute truth, so help me.

Absolute lie. The Type 4 had a cereal bowl dial - but it was built more
than 30 years ago. It was taken apart some time ago and its parts recycled.

The Type 4 can be seen on the HBR website.

Abject apologies, I got yer abominations mixed up. Where did you get
the digital display for the S8?

Built me a digital dial back in 1975 from TTL. Work with almost any HF ham rx,
regardless of heterodyne scheme or VFO range. Worked with the Type 4 one day
and an S line the next.

This was *before* there were designs for similar units on the market or in the
big ham magazines. I still have it somewhere.

Found out after all that work that I preferred analog dials.

You betcha, cost me maybe $5 for the whole VFO assembly. Including
spares.

Ya obviously got screwed.

Better'n some lame 5 to 1 slippy balldrive thing. Swords into plowshares,
anyway.

Ever hear the terms "shaft encoder" or "PTO"?

Sure. But the only advantage of those things is linearity.

Hell no, but you still have a 1920s style "VFO" and the rest of us do
not.

Simple yet effective. Did someone say "phase noise"?

Glad you brought that up. One of my objectives over the weekend was to
sniff out a whole list of ponderments I had on these sorts of topics.
Phase noise: Close to the end of the 'test on 40M the amp T/R relay
hung a couple times and I got to listen to the MP sans antenna. If the
weak hiss was in fact phase noise it was probably 20 dB. down from the
base QRN noise level in the band. Lesson: Given a decent radio phase
noise is never going to be the limiting factor in weak signal
reception anywhere around where thee or me live so fugeddit, yer VFO
is not a "solution" for some "phase noise problem".

No, that's not phase noise. You don't hear phase noise directly that way.

Other pins they stuck in sacred balloons:

They don't use QSK, PTT works just fine.
The AGC is always ON.

All you did was blow up some different sacred balloons.

73 de Jim, N2EY

w3rv

PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Brian Kelly) writes:

In a contest which is an order of magnitude tougher than SS never
mind
silly FD. Radio picnic.

Maybe when *you* do it...

Go ahead, keep pushing yer luck . .

Whata re ya gonna do - call me names?

Nah, I have a much more appropriate plan in mind . .

I had equipment FUBARS, I did not wimp out because I was afraid to
take on "your game".

Equipment trouble is par for the course on FD. Part of the game, like bad
weather and insects.

Uh . . yeah . . been there too . . point please?

Take that line of rationalizations out to it's obvious limit and ya
don't "need" a ham license either.

Sure ya do. The line is drawn when you get on the air.

No, we're talking about "repackaging" yer poor lame Southgate 8
contraption into an xcvr which would sell in 2004. Does not require a
ham license to do that but does require more than just three lousy
bands out of ten and more than only one hundred year old mode.

Built me a digital dial back in 1975 from TTL. Work with almost any HF ham rx,
regardless of heterodyne scheme or VFO range. Worked with the Type 4 one day
and an S line the next.

This was *before* there were designs for similar units on the market or in the
big ham magazines. I still have it somewhere.

Found out after all that work that I preferred analog dials.

Ya hung an S20 Sky Champion german silver dial on yer K2 did ya?

Better'n some lame 5 to 1 slippy balldrive thing. Swords into plowshares,
anyway.

Ever hear the terms "shaft encoder" or "PTO"?

Sure. But the only advantage of those things is linearity.

Bwaaahaha! As if!

reception anywhere around where thee or me live so fugeddit, yer VFO
is not a "solution" for some "phase noise problem".

No, that's not phase noise. You don't hear phase noise directly that way.

If phase noise doesn't manifest itself as crud that's all that matters
vs. a VFO. You want I should hang a spectrum analyzer on the
oscillators during a dx contest or what?

Other pins they stuck in sacred balloons:

They don't use QSK, PTT works just fine.
The AGC is always ON.

All you did was blow up some different sacred balloons.

.. . . nah, we been here before, same old sacred balloons . . heh heh .
..

73 de Jim, N2EY

w3rv

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
determined to be as snarly as possible scribbles in crayon:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil

writes:

You are an amateur extra, a shining role model for the amateur
community.

And you are not. You're not a Novice. Your'e not a Tech. You're not a
General. You're not an Advanced. You aren't a participant.

I am an electronics engineer, working for pecuniary interest, but no
longer at regular hours. I am also a hobbyist without pecuniary
compensation.

Right. There you go back into your professional background.

I've been working on that professional background for 51 years. :-)

....and sitting on it for just as long :-)

That isn't amateur radio.

That isn't HAM radio, sweetums. "Amateur" is defined as "without
pecuniary interest." Even the FCC defines amateur radio that way.

Looks like you're tangled in another Andersonian misdefinition.

Lots of us are hobbyists in any number of fields.

You are out standing in your field now.

You're some kind of hobbyist. You aren't a radio amateur.

Poor baby. Still so confused, scrunching up his fat little fingers,
bound and determined to Have His Way! :-)

It isn't my way. You are not a radio amateur under anyone's defintion
of the term.

Hobbyists in radio are defineable as amateurs in radio if they do not
make any income from it.

Only some SWL with delusions of grandeur would tell his friends that he
is a radio amateur. The terms "amateurs in radio" are not synonymous
with "amateur radio" or "radio amateur".

LICENSES in amateur radio are required to transmit RF on allocated
amateur radio bands in order to be legal with the federal government.

Really? You constantly amaze those of us who hold such licenses. We
had NO IDEA that such was the reason for those licenses. You're a
fountain of readily obtainable and commonly known information.

Poor baby, doesn't understand that amateur radio licenses are NO
GOOD outside of allocated amateur bands. That's true. Anyone can
verify that with Title 47 Code of Federal Regulations, especially in
Parts 1 and 2..

Well, poor Leonard, I think those of us holding such licenses are well
aware of just where in the RF sprectrum we may use them. That's another
great piece of commonly known information you've provided. I'm ever so
grateful.

Did you know that the federal government can operate all kinds of RF
emitters without having ANY operators licensed? True. A ham license
there isn't worth the price of a ham sandwich. No criminal liability!

Super "news", Len, though I don't have the slightest idea of why I'm
supposed to care.

Don't you just HATE it when your rant gets destroyed?

I dunno about anything being destroyed. It seems you've decided on a
detour.

I've been involved with radio and electronics, both with and without
pecuniary interest since 1947.

Bully for you. You haven't been involved in amateur radio at all.

:-) I haven't been involved in LICENSED amateur radio.

Just a bootlegger, huh?

Too bad I can't bring up Jim Fisk as a reference (he is SK). I don't
know about Alf Wilson, W6NIF, or Rich Rosen.

Yep, "Ham Radio" magazine and Jim Fisk are both defunct.

They were rather
involved with HAM RADIO. :-)

Yep. They were also involved in ham radio. You aren't.

I guess you really showed us, huh?

That's not difficult. :-)

You'll have to do a lot better than you've been doing.

I returned your snipped line to its rightful place. We wouldn't want
you to mislead others now, would we?

Anyone can read these public postings without your selective
editing. :-)

You did the selective edit. I replaced what you cut.

You don't seem to comprehend half of it, but that's quite another
problem and all yours.

I don't think so. If you were better able to express your thoughts and
if they reflected facts, there might not be a problem.

Right. U.S. amateur radio is a SECRET, classified service which NO
outsider can possibly know about, therefore no one can comment
unless they have an amateur license.

You can read up on it in "Now You're Talking".

Morsemanship isn't "talking." It's beeping.

You'll have to start somewhere, Len. Since the 5 wpm "Extra right out
of the box" was too high a hurdle, you might want to start with no code
test.


Right. NOBODY can become involved unless they are already involved.

Wrong. NOBODY can become unvolved until they take steps to do so.
You can read up on astronomy. That alone does not make you an
astronomer.

Oh? Astronomers need to be "licensed" and take a morse test?

Is that what you think I wrote? I'm beginning to see that you and Brian
share more than a few traits.

You can peruse magazines and books on auto repair. Those things alone
do not make you a car mechanic.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

Riiiiight. I guess Kragen and all those auto parts stores are doomed
for lack of sales, right? :-)

I didn't bring up auto parts stores. I wrote that simply reading a book
or magazine doesn't make you a car mechanic.

Right. In order to "show interest in radio," everyone has to learn morse
code and get a ham license.

Wrong. You've been corrected on this same mis-statement of yours on a
number of occasions. It is "interest in AMATEUR radio", Leonard.

Noooo, noooo. You are desperately trying to hang on but are
inexorably drawn over the edge. It's a very long drop below you...

You can type "Noooo, noooo" until your fingers bleed. That won't change
things. Every time I've written "interest in amateur radio" or
"interested in amateur radio", you've responded with this "interest in
radio" thing. Your "interest in radio" can be satisfied by tuning in
Sean Hannity.

LICENSED amateur radio is what you are trying (vainly) to say and then
only to be legal with the federal government on transmitting RF energy
WITHIN allocated amateur radio bands. As the FCC explains, an
amateur radio license is NOT required for transmitting RF energy outside
of amateur radio bands. That sort of thing is quite illegal. :-).

Where've you been? Have a nice nap, did you?

That's only for CIVILIAN radio services and the FCC has NO jurisdiction
over government users of radio.

Great. Become a government user of radio.

But, did you know that UNLICENSED civilians can use certain allocated
radio bands and transmit RF energy without taking a single test? True!
Been several of those since 1958! Ask the FCC about non-amateur
radio services if you are too "involved" in amateur radio activity to go
look it up. :-)

Super. Enjoy your channelized slices of post-1958 spectrum. You still
aren't a radio amateur.

Neither your decades-long "interest" nor your "Extra right out of the
box" boast of several years ago have resulted in your having taken a
single step toward obtaining even the most basic level of amateur radio
license.

Poor baby. Still angry over the past?

Why would I be angry that you haven't lived up to your boast?

You STILL can't understand why I am here. I've explained it enough
times, but your have this set-in-concrete mind that can't get flexible
enough to understand. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Nobody seems to understand why you're here. You aren't a regulator.
You aren't a radio amateur. You've commented to your government.

Right. The First Amendment of the United States Constitution states
that no citizen can comment about any amateur radio regulations unless
they already possess an amateur radio license. Right.

You've commented. End of involvement.

Not even close to the "end."

"Comments" are NOT "involvement" even in your distorted little Middle
Earth view, Frodo. [you aren't Golem, but the resemblance is there]

Comments are much involvement as you'll have in amateur radio, Leonard.

A number of them did merit explanation after you attempted to twist them
into something else. It is "interested in AMATEUR radio". Why do you
persist in deleting that very important word?

Sigh..."amateur" refers to an activity without pecuniary interest. The
FCC uses those same words. [the FCC granted your amateur radio
license]

*Sigh* You aren't a radio amateur. The FCC did not grant you an amateur
radio license.

The word "amateur" (with or without all-capitals) does not explicitly
say TRANSMISSION OF RF ENERGY IN ALLOCATED AMATEUR
RADIO BANDS. Your prized amateur radio license is NO GOOD for
legal transmission of RF energy OUTSIDE of allocated amateur bands.

More info from Leonard H. Anderson, fountain of already known
information.

In fact, in some U.S. civilian radio services it is perfectly legal to
transmit RF energy WITHOUT a license of any kind!!! Sunovagun!

That's great. Go there. Do that.

Poor baby. Another Heilian rant shot down in flames.

Len, you wouldn't want it put to a vote about who is the r.r.a.p.
ranter.


You've misdefined your interest.

Not me. YOU. All wrong, Golem...er, I mean Frodo.

I HAVE defined my "interest" quite correctly.

That you totally refuse to believe it is not my problem. Yours.

You've have never stated your obvious interest: to post frequent,
lengthy items in a newsgroup about amateur radio.

Your intellectual presbyopia is glaringly obvious.

Is it as obvious as your obsessive-compulsive need to haunt an amateur
radio newsgroup?

You have interest in internet newsgroup posting.

No more so than regular physical exercise. :-)

Typing is your idea of regular physical excercise? :-) :-)

You have interest in outlining your past professional glories.

I've spent 51 years in professional radio-electronics activity and none
of it can qualify as "glorious."


I believe you. Now just sell that idea to yourself.


Intellectually INTERESTING, yes, and
some of it quite enjoyable. If some of it was more involved than what
you did, TS, that's the breaks of life.

....and if some of it was less interesting and less involved that what I
did, you'll have to live with it. Besides, I'm a radio amateur in
addition.

Maybe your distemper is flaring up again because I got assigned to
a very large HF transmitting facility while in the U.S. Army...and got
rank and responsibility operating many high-powered HF transmitters.
51 years ago. Before your first hamme raddio license. TS for you.

Your kidding, right?

You aren't involved in amateur radio.

Not involved in TRANSMITTING RF ENERGY ON ALLOCATED HAM
BANDS, true. :-)

Don't sweat it, Len. You can inhale some of that transmitted RF energy
on allocated ham bands with your trusty Icom receiver, as an SWL.

TRANSMIT, Baggins, TRANSMIT. Like in legal RF energy within
those tight, confining HF band bounds.

Oh, we're allowed to receive too, Len. It is actually highly encouraged
to do some of both. We can even turn the stuff off and watch a movie or
read a book. I have all the room I need within to tight, confining
amateur bands denied to you.

I'm just advocating the elimination of morse code testing for any radio
license but you desperately want to make that some kind of grande
production of drama and pathos, a giant mountain built out of a mole
hill of your old morse message blanks. Tsk, tsk, tsk, you try such
theatrics! Do you have an interest in the theater? :-)

"I'm just", "I'm just". Who asked you?

Do I have an interest in theater? Oh yes. My interest extends to
attending plays and watching films. I don't attempt to tell anyone
associated with theater how to act, nor would I attempt to outline how
regulations governing theater production or movie making should be
changed. I'd never call for a minimum age for actors either.

I'll just put you down in the same emotional category as other
emotionally-seven-year-old Extras.

Those are very "involved" as long as their attention spans last... :-)

They are as involved as they'd like to be. You are as involved as you
can be.

Dave K8MN

In article , Dave Heil
writes:



I'll just put you down in the same emotional category as other
emotionally-seven-year-old Extras.

Those are very "involved" as long as their attention spans last... :-)

They are as involved as they'd like to be. You are as involved as you
can be.

Poor baby. Still INVOLVED with tossing personal insults and nasty
comments to others that don't agree with your views.

Your behavior remains constant at emotional tantrum level equal to
the average seven-year-old.

Try addressing SUBJECTS instead of the personalities who comment
against your views. Few care one whit about your perceived personal
affronts or the emotional injuries you seem to suffer while reading
these posts. Grow thicker skin.

Now go sit down in front of your tansceiver and have an oriongasm.

LHA / WMD

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

I'll just put you down in the same emotional category as other
emotionally-seven-year-old Extras.

Those are very "involved" as long as their attention spans last... :-)

They are as involved as they'd like to be. You are as involved as you
can be.

Poor baby. Still INVOLVED with tossing personal insults and nasty
comments to others that don't agree with your views.

Poor Leonard. Unable to accept a simple statement of fact. It would
make no difference if you agreed with my views. You'd still have no
involvement in amateur radio.

Your behavior remains constant at emotional tantrum level equal to
the average seven-year-old.

Leonard, meet Leonard.

Try addressing SUBJECTS instead of the personalities who comment
against your views. Few care one whit about your perceived personal
affronts or the emotional injuries you seem to suffer while reading
these posts. Grow thicker skin.

So I'm to do as you say and not as you do. Is that it?

Now go sit down in front of your tansceiver and have an oriongasm.

I'll sit in front of it or not as I choose. I'll excercise the
privileges granted by my license or I won't given my mood. I'll do as I
like; you do as you can.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:

Len Over 21 wrote:


In article , Dave Heil
writes:



I'll just put you down in the same emotional category as other
emotionally-seven-year-old Extras.

Those are very "involved" as long as their attention spans last... :-)


They are as involved as they'd like to be. You are as involved as you
can be.


Poor baby. Still INVOLVED with tossing personal insults and nasty
comments to others that don't agree with your views.



Poor Leonard. Unable to accept a simple statement of fact. It would
make no difference if you agreed with my views. You'd still have no
involvement in amateur radio.



Your behavior remains constant at emotional tantrum level equal to
the average seven-year-old.



Leonard, meet Leonard.



Try addressing SUBJECTS instead of the personalities who comment
against your views. Few care one whit about your perceived personal
affronts or the emotional injuries you seem to suffer while reading
these posts. Grow thicker skin.



So I'm to do as you say and not as you do. Is that it?



Now go sit down in front of your tansceiver and have an oriongasm.



I'll sit in front of it or not as I choose. I'll excercise the
privileges granted by my license or I won't given my mood. I'll do as I
like; you do as you can.

Dave K8MN


Just get the damn license Len, it aint rocket science.

In article , Robert Casey
writes:

Just get the damn license Len, it aint rocket science.

I know "rocket science" after working three years at
Rocketdyne Division of Rockwell International, the makers
of the Space Shuttle Main Engine and the F1 main-stage
engines of the Saturn Rocket (Apollo Program lifter).

I've also had four other [expletive deleted] radio licenses.

[Rev. Jim don' lak no cuss words in heah, he say dat...]

Over a half century ago I was OPERATING on HF with not
one, but 43 transmitters each 8 hour shift...plus the VHF,
UHF, and microwave radio relay equipment associated
with it.

At no time in my career have I been required to know or to
use morse code to legally transmit on HF. In order to
transmit on HF in the U.S. ham bands I MUST test for that.
Why? No other radio service requires anything of the kind.

This newsgroup isn't moderated, doesn't have restricted
access. No ham license (from either FCC or FDA) is
required in here. It sounds fishy that you have a beef with
someone in here and I'd say y'all just laid a aig.

Until you close off this place to any but "your own kind,"
I be here when _I_ want to be here. You can bet your
[expletive deleted] [expletive deleted] on that, [expletive
deleted] !

Have fun with all the rest of the mental seven-year-old
extras.

LHA / WMD

Subject: New Candidate for 'Youngest Extra'
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 4/2/2004 4:19 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article , Robert Casey
writes:

Just get the damn license Len, it aint rocket science.

I know "rocket science" after working three years at
Rocketdyne Division of Rockwell International, the makers
of the Space Shuttle Main Engine and the F1 main-stage
engines of the Saturn Rocket (Apollo Program lifter).

I am sure that while cleaning the floors and emptying out thier ashtrays
and coffee cups, you got to know a LOT of "rocket scientists"...Probably even
picked up enough "lingo" to impress some "young thing" at a bar long enough to
get his pants off....

I've also had four other [expletive deleted] radio licenses.

The best [expletive deleted] radio licenses money could buy.

But none of them an Amateur Radio license.

Putz.

Steve, K4YZ