On Jul 7, 1:24 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Rfburns" wrote in message

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On Jul 6, 11:36 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Rfburns" wrote in message

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Eduardo - I'd invite you over to my palce to hear some of these things
but you scare me.

Bring it to my office and we can compare it with several of them there,
and
our engineering staff can look at the one you have too.

Eduardo - with all due respect to you (which isn't much) what I say is
happening on the Sony is happening.

Then your radio is defective. If many such radios work fine, and one does
not, it is the radio.



With the radio tuned to a non HD AM station, adjacent AM HD stations
cause the receiver to switch to HD which results in the receive audio
to shut off for several seconds. This occurs regularly on AM.

That sounds like you are listening for adjacent or next adjacent AMs with an
HD AM in its primary coverage area near you. The DX listening is not
protected legally, so this is not a defect.



You can argue all night about whose fault it is - iBiquity or the
manufacturers but the consumer doesn't care. All they know is that
they don't want it and rightly so.

As far as AM HD, what the consumers don't want is AM. No amount of
technology can fix the AM band and its old-fart image among most anyone
under about 45. This is why AM listening is declining so fast, and the only
remaining listeners soon will be over 55, a group nearly no agency ad
account wants.


Eduardo - You have a view of life that is distorted by your greed.
You, and people like you, are part of the problem. Your arguments are
both bogus and biased and always self-serving. This is easily detected
by your "old-fart" comment as well as others you have made.

There a millions of analog receivers that work perfectly and all but a
few deluded insiders, like yourself, are perfectly happy with the
performance of analog radio. There are hundreds of local AM stations
that serve their areas well and they are still in business and
hopefully will be for a long time.

But your type, which is controlled by greed and convinced of their
superiority, both technical and intellectual, would put them out of
business in a second if you could. You are pathetic.

On Jul 7, 1:24 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Rfburns" wrote in message

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On Jul 6, 11:36 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Rfburns" wrote in message

...
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Eduardo - I'd invite you over to my palce to hear some of these things
but you scare me.

Bring it to my office and we can compare it with several of them there,
and
our engineering staff can look at the one you have too.

Eduardo - with all due respect to you (which isn't much) what I say is
happening on the Sony is happening.

Then your radio is defective. If many such radios work fine, and one does
not, it is the radio.



With the radio tuned to a non HD AM station, adjacent AM HD stations
cause the receiver to switch to HD which results in the receive audio
to shut off for several seconds. This occurs regularly on AM.

That sounds like you are listening for adjacent or next adjacent AMs with an
HD AM in its primary coverage area near you. The DX listening is not
protected legally, so this is not a defect.



You can argue all night about whose fault it is - iBiquity or the
manufacturers but the consumer doesn't care. All they know is that
they don't want it and rightly so.

As far as AM HD, what the consumers don't want is AM. No amount of
technology can fix the AM band and its old-fart image among most anyone
under about 45. This is why AM listening is declining so fast, and the only
remaining listeners soon will be over 55, a group nearly no agency ad
account wants.


Eduardo - You have a view of life that is distorted by your greed.
You, and people like you, are part of the problem. Your arguments are
both bogus and biased and always self-serving. This is easily detected
by your "old-fart" comment as well as others you have made.

There a millions of analog receivers that work perfectly and all but a
few deluded insiders, like yourself, are perfectly happy with the
performance of analog radio. There are hundreds of local AM stations
that serve their areas well and they are still in business and
hopefully will be for a long time.

But your type, which is controlled by greed and convinced of their
superiority, both technical and intellectual, would put them out of
business in a second if you could. You are pathetic.

There a millions of analog receivers that work perfectly and all but a
few deluded insiders, like yourself, are perfectly happy with the
performance of analog radio.

And they can continue to enjoy them in analog.

HD radio simply adds more functionality.

No one istaking away analog radio

David Eduardo wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
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On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:35:06 -0700, David Eduardo wrote:

All the CC stations in the LA market make lots of money. None of the CC
stations is run at a loss on purpose, although some of them lose money
due to sharper competitors or bad signals.
They ran Indie 103.1 at a loss until the FCC stopped them.

They did no such thing. Indie was run by Entravision with a JSA (joint sales
agreement) with Clear Channel so they would not have to have a separate
sales department for a station (actually, combo) that only covers about 20%
of the market.

20% if you count unoccupied dirt. Clear Channel ran it at a loss to
chip away at KROQ and to claim the widest playlists in America. JSA
usually means the bigger entity runs things.

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
news:telamon_spamshield-
As to AM in Carlsbad, you are at the fringe of the AM signals of the San
Diego HD AMs, so dropout would be likely on a bad receiver. The fact is
that
SD does not even have an AM that totally covers the market with a usable
signal.
2nd model maybe, not second generation.
First generation used several separate chips. Second, starting with the BA
Receptor, used an integrated chip, third generation coming in next few
months.

Nope. All radios so far are using general purpose IC programmed by EPROM
to run the Ibiquity application.

I'll let you know when an IC that specifically designed for IBOC comes
around.


Isn't there an off the shelf MPEG4 decoder involved?

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Dave wrote:

On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:35:41 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:

money. Why do pirates go on the air?



In the USA, Radio is always about the money. ALWAYS.

If you don't think NPR, PRI are not about the money, you need to
return your bong.

I don't have a bong.

SNIP

You got a pipe.

Do you drink?

On Jul 7, 5:35 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message

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On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:35:41 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:

money. Why do pirates go on the air?

In the USA, Radio is always about the money. ALWAYS.

If you don't think NPR, PRI are not about the money, you need to
return your bong.

I don't have a bong. Not every radio station makes money. Some are on
the air to advance an ideology; some are run at a loss for other
business reasons; some are just run by eccentric owners for the fun of
it. We have a station here that Clear Channel runs at a loss just so
they can claim to be more eclectic when they get attacked for being too
controlling of the music.

All the CC stations in the LA market make lots of money. None of the CC
stations is run at a loss on purpose, although some of them lose money due
to sharper competitors or bad signals.


Eduardo – Your view of life is distorted by your greed. You, and
people like you, are the problem. Your arguments are both bogus and
biased and always self-serving. This is detected by the comments you
make.

There are millions of analog receivers that work perfectly and all but
a few deluded radio insiders are perfectly happy with analog radio.
There are thousands of local AM and FM stations that serve their areas
well and they are still in business and hopefully will be for a long
time.

But your type, which is controlled by greed and convinced of their
superiority, both technical and intellectual, would put them out of
business in a microsecond if you could. You read statistics and
numbers looking for ways to exploit regardless of consequences and you
gloat when you think you’re proven right. But so many times you’re
wrong. You are pathetic.

Businesses are full of people like you. Superficial individuals who
convince themselves they’re doing good but the reality is they are
just serving themselves. I know people like you. You connive behind
closed doors and convince yourself of things and then pretend that the
world would be better off with what you just convinced yourself of.
But they are foolish and reckless and so are you.

No doubt you are sitting there snickering but inside you’re
uncomfortable because you are a victim of your selfishness and
shallowness.

Rfburns wrote:

On Jul 7, 5:35 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message

m...



On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:35:41 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:

money. Why do pirates go on the air?

In the USA, Radio is always about the money. ALWAYS.

If you don't think NPR, PRI are not about the money, you need to
return your bong.

I don't have a bong. Not every radio station makes money. Some are on
the air to advance an ideology; some are run at a loss for other
business reasons; some are just run by eccentric owners for the fun of
it. We have a station here that Clear Channel runs at a loss just so
they can claim to be more eclectic when they get attacked for being too
controlling of the music.

All the CC stations in the LA market make lots of money. None of the CC
stations is run at a loss on purpose, although some of them lose money due
to sharper competitors or bad signals.

Eduardo – Your view of life is distorted by your greed. You, and
people like you, are the problem. Your arguments are both bogus and
biased and always self-serving. This is detected by the comments you
make.

There are millions of analog receivers that work perfectly and all but
a few deluded radio insiders are perfectly happy with analog radio.
There are thousands of local AM and FM stations that serve their areas
well and they are still in business and hopefully will be for a long
time.

But your type, which is controlled by greed and convinced of their
superiority, both technical and intellectual, would put them out of
business in a microsecond if you could. You read statistics and
numbers looking for ways to exploit regardless of consequences and you
gloat when you think you’re proven right. But so many times you’re
wrong. You are pathetic.

Not only that, but Pancho is pathological as well.

Businesses are full of people like you. Superficial individuals who
convince themselves they’re doing good but the reality is they are
just serving themselves. I know people like you. You connive behind
closed doors and convince yourself of things and then pretend that the
world would be better off with what you just convinced yourself of.
But they are foolish and reckless and so are you.

No doubt you are sitting there snickering but inside you’re
uncomfortable because you are a victim of your selfishness and
shallowness.

Don't forget that his mama kicked him out of Cleveland because he was an
embarrassment to her and her socialite pretensions.

A Brown wrote:
There a millions of analog receivers that work perfectly and all but a
few deluded insiders, like yourself, are perfectly happy with the
performance of analog radio.

And they can continue to enjoy them in analog.

HD radio simply adds more functionality.

No one istaking away analog radio



Bull****. Every HD FM channel uses 3 analog channels. HD AM uses 5
analog channels.

On Jul 7, 5:35 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message

m...



On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:35:41 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:

money. Why do pirates go on the air?

In the USA, Radio is always about the money. ALWAYS.

If you don't think NPR, PRI are not about the money, you need to
return your bong.

I don't have a bong. Not every radio station makes money. Some are on
the air to advance an ideology; some are run at a loss for other
business reasons; some are just run by eccentric owners for the fun of
it. We have a station here that Clear Channel runs at a loss just so
they can claim to be more eclectic when they get attacked for being too
controlling of the music.

All the CC stations in the LA market make lots of money. None of the CC
stations is run at a loss on purpose, although some of them lose money due
to sharper competitors or bad signals.


Eduardo – Your view of life is distorted by your greed. You, and
people like you, are the problem. Your arguments are both bogus and
biased and always self-serving. This is detected by the comments you
make.

There are millions of analog receivers that work perfectly and all but
a few deluded radio insiders are perfectly happy with analog radio.
There are thousands of local AM and FM stations that serve their areas
well and they are still in business and hopefully will be for a long
time.

But your type, which is controlled by greed and convinced of their
superiority, both technical and intellectual, would put them out of
business in a microsecond if you could. You read statistics and
numbers looking for ways to exploit regardless of consequences and you
gloat when you think you’re proven right. But so many times you’re
wrong. You are pathetic.

Businesses are full of people like you. Superficial individuals who
convince themselves they’re doing good but the reality is they are
just serving themselves. I know people like you. You connive behind
closed doors and convince yourself of things and then pretend that the
world would be better off with what you just convinced yourself of.
But they are foolish and reckless and so are you.

No doubt you are sitting there snickering but inside you’re
uncomfortable because you are a victim of your selfishness and
shallowness.