No, but I have been cured of AIDS, just got a set
of spark plugs for my Diesel lorry and a couple of
skyhooks to hold up my HF dipole!

Theo

Paul Burridge wrote:

The question seems daft, but bear with me, gentlemen. Has anyone ever
had an electric shock that they feel lucky to have survived?

p.
--

"I believe history will be kind to me, since I intend
to write it." - Winston Churchill

Nothing like that, yet.

Rewired some factory emergency lights and replaced several more, one leg
of a 480V circuit, live. Work careful and no problems.

Removing a high-pressure bulb from a high-voltage circuit, glass
envelope broke in my hand while trying to unscrew it, didn't know I
could move that fast.

Rewiring a conveyor, co-worker said the power was off, sparks flew when
I cut the cable. I just stared at the remains of my pliers and then at
him. ONE HAND in contact with the work, nothing else, work on insulated
surface, heavy rubber sole boots, and anything else I can think of.

Worked at one plant that had had a color blind electrician, that really
taught me caution, never knew what color wired carried what voltage.

"Bob Yates" wrote in message
...


Rewiring a conveyor, co-worker said the power was off, sparks flew when
I cut the cable. I just stared at the remains of my pliers and then at
him. ONE HAND in contact with the work, nothing else, work on insulated
surface, heavy rubber sole boots, and anything else I can think of.


I worked college summers as an electrician. Cut a live lamp circuit with my
brand new pliers, leaving a 14-ga notch.

Years later, I saw "my" pliers in the lab tech's toolbox. He said he had
done the same thing a few years back. I didn't really believe they were his
until I found my old pliers in the bottom of my garage toolkit.

"Bob Yates" wrote in message
...


Rewiring a conveyor, co-worker said the power was off, sparks flew when
I cut the cable. I just stared at the remains of my pliers and then at
him. ONE HAND in contact with the work, nothing else, work on insulated
surface, heavy rubber sole boots, and anything else I can think of.


I worked college summers as an electrician. Cut a live lamp circuit with my
brand new pliers, leaving a 14-ga notch.

Years later, I saw "my" pliers in the lab tech's toolbox. He said he had
done the same thing a few years back. I didn't really believe they were his
until I found my old pliers in the bottom of my garage toolkit.

Paul Burridge wrote:

The question seems daft, but bear with me, gentlemen. Has anyone ever
had an electric shock that they feel lucky to have survived?

p.
--

"I believe history will be kind to me, since I intend
to write it." - Winston Churchill

Nothing like that, yet.

Rewired some factory emergency lights and replaced several more, one leg
of a 480V circuit, live. Work careful and no problems.

Removing a high-pressure bulb from a high-voltage circuit, glass
envelope broke in my hand while trying to unscrew it, didn't know I
could move that fast.

Rewiring a conveyor, co-worker said the power was off, sparks flew when
I cut the cable. I just stared at the remains of my pliers and then at
him. ONE HAND in contact with the work, nothing else, work on insulated
surface, heavy rubber sole boots, and anything else I can think of.

Worked at one plant that had had a color blind electrician, that really
taught me caution, never knew what color wired carried what voltage.

On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 11:29:46 +0100, Paul Burridge
wrote:


The question seems daft, but bear with me, gentlemen. Has anyone ever
had an electric shock that they feel lucky to have survived?

p.

This guy did believe it or not.

http://www.electrical-contractor.net/electrocution.htm

--

Regards,

Boris Mohar

Got Knock? - see:
Viatrack Printed Circuit Designs http://www3.sympatico.ca/borism/
Aurora, Ontario

On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 11:29:46 +0100, Paul Burridge
wrote:


The question seems daft, but bear with me, gentlemen. Has anyone ever
had an electric shock that they feel lucky to have survived?

p.

This guy did believe it or not.

http://www.electrical-contractor.net/electrocution.htm

--

Regards,

Boris Mohar

Got Knock? - see:
Viatrack Printed Circuit Designs http://www3.sympatico.ca/borism/
Aurora, Ontario

In article , "K Wind"
writes:

"Paul Burridge" wrote in message
.. .

The question seems daft, but bear with me, gentlemen. Has anyone ever
had an electric shock that they feel lucky to have survived?

Would 1,500VDC with 6mA capability flowing through one arm and out the other
be considered lethal? At one time, I knew how much current was considered
lethal, but have forgotten.

Think of "30-30" as a mnemonic.

If the source has over 30 Volts and can supply over 30 milliamperes
through the cardiac region, you will go into cardiac fibrilation.

High voltage with little supply current will affect the nerves and the
resulting muscle spasms can cause other kinds of injuries, some
that may be fatal.

DON'T DO IT. PAY ATTENTION!

Len Anderson
still living in the same reality I was born into...

In article , "K Wind"
writes:

"Paul Burridge" wrote in message
.. .

The question seems daft, but bear with me, gentlemen. Has anyone ever
had an electric shock that they feel lucky to have survived?

Would 1,500VDC with 6mA capability flowing through one arm and out the other
be considered lethal? At one time, I knew how much current was considered
lethal, but have forgotten.

Think of "30-30" as a mnemonic.

If the source has over 30 Volts and can supply over 30 milliamperes
through the cardiac region, you will go into cardiac fibrilation.

High voltage with little supply current will affect the nerves and the
resulting muscle spasms can cause other kinds of injuries, some
that may be fatal.

DON'T DO IT. PAY ATTENTION!

Len Anderson
still living in the same reality I was born into...

In article , Paul Burridge
writes:

On 09 Aug 2003 19:46:02 GMT, (Avery Fineman)
wrote:

If the source has over 30 Volts and can supply over 30 milliamperes
through the cardiac region, you will go into cardiac fibrilation.

Sorry, Len, but I can't see it. I routinely check for HV on the anodes
of certain smallish valves with bare fingers and can't even begin to
feel anything under about 80 volts (at very much more current
capability than 30mA) at the low end. However, I read somewhere that
some guy died from just a 12V 'shock' - must have been a world
record.. :-(

I'm not concerned with what YOU do personally, nor will I set any
"standards" for all humans based on what one human can or can't
do or feel.

I got the "30-30" phrase while working at Birtcher Instruments, a
semiconductor test instrument maker and a division of Birtcher
Medical that made several different medical electronic instruments
(EKG, RF knife/cautery, defibrilators,etc.). Someone at Birtcher
Medical told me about it. I was Chief Engineer at Birtcher Instruments
in Monterey Park, California, a suburb of Los Angeles (not the upstate
Monterey, CA, where some FedEx deliveries went, hi). I don't think
that my employer at the time would give me false information.

The City of Los Angeles building and safety codes don't require
inspection of 24 VAC wiring in residences and that sort of wiring is
common here for furnace and HVAC controls, doorbells, etc. That
AC voltage is never considered "high voltage." That is probably true
of the USA National Electrical Code although I haven't read one
recently (I've only read the coding in the Numeric Electromagnetic
Code recently, quite different from the other "NEC").

I really don't know the medical-biological low threashold for direct
cardiac stimulation through an opening in the chest cavity. I don't
care to know. I care to know NOT to futz around with my or anyone
else's body with anything above the "30-30" limits.

If YOU want to experiment with your own body, feel free. Then you
transport yourself to that other "reality." When you get there, ask
someone there to shock themselves into this reality and tell us all what
it is like "over there." I live in THIS reality where survival depends on
not treating electricity cavalierly like it was words in a newsgroup.

Happy zapping.

Len Anderson
retired (from regular hours) electronic engineer person