In article , Dave Heil
writes:


You are an amateur extra, a shining role model for the amateur
community.

And you are not. You're not a Novice. Your'e not a Tech. You're not a
General. You're not an Advanced. You aren't a participant.

I am an electronics engineer, working for pecuniary interest, but no
longer at regular hours. I am also a hobbyist without pecuniary
compensation.

I've been involved with radio and electronics, both with and without
pecuniary interest since 1947.

I am not a ham. I have a beef with certain U.S. government laws.

You keep fishing for trolls and aren't taking your meds.


How would you know? You aren't involved.

Right. U.S. amateur radio is a SECRET, classified service which NO
outsider can possibly know about, therefore no one can comment
unless they have an amateur license.

Right. NOBODY can become involved unless they are already involved.

Right. In order to "show interest in radio," everyone has to learn morse
code and get a ham license. It is impossible to have any "interest" in
radio through a working career in radio or electronics. The ham license
is absolutely mandatory "to show interest in radio." Right.

Right. The First Amendment of the United States Constitution states
that no citizen can comment about any amateur radio regulations unless
they already possess an amateur radio license. Right.

I am so glad you "explained" all of those things. [it's like LOTR code]

Has the ARRL approached you for more hints in generating interest in
getting "interested in radio" as you've outlined in here?

No? That's so interesting.

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

You are an amateur extra, a shining role model for the amateur
community.

And you are not. You're not a Novice. Your'e not a Tech. You're not a
General. You're not an Advanced. You aren't a participant.

I am an electronics engineer, working for pecuniary interest, but no
longer at regular hours. I am also a hobbyist without pecuniary
compensation.

Right. There you go back into your professional background. That isn't
amateur radio. Lots of us are hobbyists in any number of fields.
You're some kind of hobbyist. You aren't a radio amateur.

I've been involved with radio and electronics, both with and without
pecuniary interest since 1947.

Bully for you. You haven't been involved in amateur radio at all.

I am not a ham. I have a beef with certain U.S. government laws.

....and I'm certain that the FCC and all of hamdom are just sick over
that.
I guess you really showed us, huh?

You keep fishing for trolls and aren't taking your meds.

I keep fishing and I keep getting bites. You, after all, seem to be the
"Big Fish".

Shrug. Not good for the amateur image to make others be like you.

How would you know? You aren't involved.

I returned your snipped line to its rightful place. We wouldn't want
you to mislead others now, would we?

Right. U.S. amateur radio is a SECRET, classified service which NO
outsider can possibly know about, therefore no one can comment
unless they have an amateur license.

You can read up on it in "Now You're Talking".

Right. NOBODY can become involved unless they are already involved.

Wrong. NOBODY can become unvolved until they take steps to do so.
You can read up on astronomy. That alone does not make you an
astronomer.
You can peruse magazines and books on auto repair. Those things alone
do not make you a car mechanic.

Right. In order to "show interest in radio," everyone has to learn morse
code and get a ham license.

Wrong. You've been corrected on this same mis-statement of yours on a
number of occasions. It is "interest in AMATEUR radio", Leonard.
Neither your decades-long "interest" nor your "Extra right out of the
box" boast of several years ago have resulted in your having taken a
single step toward obtaining even the most basic level of amateur radio
license.


It is impossible to have any "interest" in
radio through a working career in radio or electronics. The ham license
is absolutely mandatory "to show interest in radio." Right.

Wrong. See my comments above.

Right. The First Amendment of the United States Constitution states
that no citizen can comment about any amateur radio regulations unless
they already possess an amateur radio license. Right.

You've commented. End of involvement.

I am so glad you "explained" all of those things. [it's like LOTR code]

Has the ARRL approached you for more hints in generating interest in
getting "interested in radio" as you've outlined in here?

A number of them did merit explanation after you attempted to twist them
into something else. It is "interested in AMATEUR radio". Why do you
persist in deleting that very important word?

No? That's so interesting.

You've misdefined your interest. You have interest in internet
newsgroup posting. You have interest in outlining your past
professional glories.
You aren't involved in amateur radio.

Dave K8MN

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , PAMNO
(N2EY) writes:

There's certainly no cause for concern or alarm.

I did not think there was.

There you have it.

No worries.

Keep your morse up. Use morse viagra.

Looks like you're the candidate for that stuff, Len--clear up to the
summit of

e w o r d s p e r m i n u t e.
v
i
f

Looks like you could use some lead in your pencil.

Dave K8MN

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , Dave Heil
writes:

And you are not. You're not a Novice. Your'e not a Tech. You're not a
General. You're not an Advanced. You aren't a participant.

I am an electronics engineer, working for pecuniary interest, but no
longer at regular hours. I am also a hobbyist without pecuniary
compensation.

You MIGHT have been an electronics technician at some point in
time. At present, no contribution of any import can be attributed to
Leonard H. Anderson at ANY level. Several articles in "Ham Radio"
magazine carry your by-line but cannot be verified as "original"
work..At best you were able to successfully plagerize anothers work by
careful re-editing. The one personal reference I could contact at a
place you alleged to "work" was of passive participation, at best.

I've been involved with radio and electronics, both with and without
pecuniary interest since 1947.

But not AMATEUR RADIO, the central subject of this forum. In
THIS matter you have zero-point-squat experience.

The physics of radio are irrelevent here...It's the application.

I am not a ham. I have a beef with certain U.S. government laws.

You ARE a liar and an antagonist. These are documented.

You keep fishing for trolls and aren't taking your meds.

Seems he caught one. Want him to throw you back when you're all
grown up?

How would you know? You aren't involved.

Right. U.S. amateur radio is a SECRET, classified service which NO
outsider can possibly know about, therefore no one can comment
unless they have an amateur license.

You have no EXPERIENCE in AMATEUR RADIO from which to make an
informed opinion.

Right. NOBODY can become involved unless they are already involved.

You have no EXPERIENCE in AMATEUR RADIO from which to make an
informed opinion.

Right. In order to "show interest in radio," everyone has to learn morse
code and get a ham license. It is impossible to have any "interest" in
radio through a working career in radio or electronics. The ham license
is absolutely mandatory "to show interest in radio." Right.

You have no EXPERIENCE in AMATEUR RADIO from which to make an
informed opinion.

Right. The First Amendment of the United States Constitution states
that no citizen can comment about any amateur radio regulations unless
they already possess an amateur radio license. Right.

You have no EXPERIENCE in AMATEUR RADIO from which to make an
informed opinion.

When lying and antagonism are desireable traits, we'll come find
you for hints.

Steve, K4YZ

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

N2EY wrote:

In article , Dave Heil

writes:

N2EY wrote:

In article , Dave Heil

writes:

Jim,

Are you forwarding these messages via LHA's home version of ADA?

Who or what is an "LHA"?

Best I can determine, it is similar to a WMD.

What has been destroyed? And what does the Americans with Disabilities
Act
have to do with any of it?

According to the
"LHA/WMD" sig I've noted, the two may be used interchangeably.

I have no idea who you are referring to. What's this person's amateur
radio
callsign? Why should I be concerned about this person?

This particular individual has no amateur callsign.

Why not? Is the Tech written too difficult for him to pass?

It might be that or it might be that his decades-long interest in
amateur radio is a sham.

Then why should anyone be concerned?

He is Leonard H. Anderson

How do you know? Have you actually met him or otherwise verified his
identity?

My feeling is that an imposter wouldn't have revealed so many easily
verifiable claims such as previous workplaces, address and the like.

Perhaps - but has anyone actually verified any of them? Has anyone actually
met this individual, either in person or on the ham bands?

All sorts of people post anonymously here. One more would not be a surprise.

You and I have verified each other's existence on air and via QSL cards.

I could claim to be a lady with red hair on this newsgroup - how would you
know I am not?

Good point, though if Len has the red hair, I feel confident that he has
the red rubber nose and shoes to go with it.

Just another Bozo on the bus, then?

My taste in red haired ladies goes to Angie Everhart.

Reminds me of a PHC joke:

Two penguins are in Antartica.
One penguin says to the other: "You look like you're wearing a tuxedo"
The other penguin replies "How do you know I'm not?"

The more times I hear that one, the funnier it gets.

but he shouldn't be confused with Leonard H. Anderson WA6HKH of
Montana, whose views are quoted in this month's issue of "CQ".

I did see that but WA6HKH's address was given as Sun City or Sun Valley or
some such in California.

He must be a highly mobile individual. The RAC lists him as in Montana.

Those left-coasters! What a wild, madcap existence!

There's certainly no cause for concern or alarm.

I did not think there was.

My guess is that the man is one of those who can clear a bar by simply
walking in and taking a seat.

Sounds quite unpleasant.

I am still unclead about the connection to the Americans with Disablities Act
(ADA), however.

73 de Jim, N2EY

btw, KA1HR was a real station in the Phillippines back when they were under US
jursidiction.

In article , Dave Heil
determined to be as snarly as possible scribbles in crayon:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil

writes:

You are an amateur extra, a shining role model for the amateur
community.

And you are not. You're not a Novice. Your'e not a Tech. You're not a
General. You're not an Advanced. You aren't a participant.

I am an electronics engineer, working for pecuniary interest, but no
longer at regular hours. I am also a hobbyist without pecuniary
compensation.

Right. There you go back into your professional background.

I've been working on that professional background for 51 years. :-)

That isn't amateur radio.

That isn't HAM radio, sweetums. "Amateur" is defined as "without
pecuniary interest." Even the FCC defines amateur radio that way.

Lots of us are hobbyists in any number of fields.

You are out standing in your field now.

You're some kind of hobbyist. You aren't a radio amateur.

Poor baby. Still so confused, scrunching up his fat little fingers,
bound and determined to Have His Way! :-)

Hobbyists in radio are defineable as amateurs in radio if they do not
make any income from it.

LICENSES in amateur radio are required to transmit RF on allocated
amateur radio bands in order to be legal with the federal government.

Poor baby, doesn't understand that amateur radio licenses are NO
GOOD outside of allocated amateur bands. That's true. Anyone can
verify that with Title 47 Code of Federal Regulations, especially in
Parts 1 and 2..

Did you know that the federal government can operate all kinds of RF
emitters without having ANY operators licensed? True. A ham license
there isn't worth the price of a ham sandwich. No criminal liability!

Don't you just HATE it when your rant gets destroyed?

I've been involved with radio and electronics, both with and without
pecuniary interest since 1947.

Bully for you. You haven't been involved in amateur radio at all.

:-) I haven't been involved in LICENSED amateur radio.

Too bad I can't bring up Jim Fisk as a reference (he is SK). I don't
know about Alf Wilson, W6NIF, or Rich Rosen. They were rather
involved with HAM RADIO. :-)

I guess you really showed us, huh?

That's not difficult. :-)


I returned your snipped line to its rightful place. We wouldn't want
you to mislead others now, would we?

Anyone can read these public postings without your selective
editing. :-)

You don't seem to comprehend half of it, but that's quite another
problem and all yours.


Right. U.S. amateur radio is a SECRET, classified service which NO
outsider can possibly know about, therefore no one can comment
unless they have an amateur license.

You can read up on it in "Now You're Talking".

Morsemanship isn't "talking." It's beeping.


Right. NOBODY can become involved unless they are already involved.

Wrong. NOBODY can become unvolved until they take steps to do so.
You can read up on astronomy. That alone does not make you an
astronomer.

Oh? Astronomers need to be "licensed" and take a morse test?

I don't think so. But, if your false statement makes you happy, why
should I upset your nirvana?

[you might research "astronomy" and who spots what, but that would
make you see stars...]

You can peruse magazines and books on auto repair. Those things alone
do not make you a car mechanic.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

Riiiiight. I guess Kragen and all those auto parts stores are doomed
for lack of sales, right? :-)


Right. In order to "show interest in radio," everyone has to learn morse
code and get a ham license.

Wrong. You've been corrected on this same mis-statement of yours on a
number of occasions. It is "interest in AMATEUR radio", Leonard.

Noooo, noooo. You are desperately trying to hang on but are
inexorably drawn over the edge. It's a very long drop below you...

LICENSED amateur radio is what you are trying (vainly) to say and then
only to be legal with the federal government on transmitting RF energy
WITHIN allocated amateur radio bands. As the FCC explains, an
amateur radio license is NOT required for transmitting RF energy outside
of amateur radio bands. That sort of thing is quite illegal. :-).

That's only for CIVILIAN radio services and the FCC has NO jurisdiction
over government users of radio.

But, did you know that UNLICENSED civilians can use certain allocated
radio bands and transmit RF energy without taking a single test? True!
Been several of those since 1958! Ask the FCC about non-amateur
radio services if you are too "involved" in amateur radio activity to go
look it up. :-)

Neither your decades-long "interest" nor your "Extra right out of the
box" boast of several years ago have resulted in your having taken a
single step toward obtaining even the most basic level of amateur radio
license.

Poor baby. Still angry over the past?

You STILL can't understand why I am here. I've explained it enough
times, but your have this set-in-concrete mind that can't get flexible
enough to understand. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

If you are still munching cashews from your glorious middle Africa
"Foreign Service" days, I'd throw them out...either than or too much
beeping has affected your mind. [Guinea-Bisseau is the African
center for cashew exporting...about their best export...]


Right. The First Amendment of the United States Constitution states
that no citizen can comment about any amateur radio regulations unless
they already possess an amateur radio license. Right.

You've commented. End of involvement.

Not even close to the "end."

"Comments" are NOT "involvement" even in your distorted little Middle
Earth view, Frodo. [you aren't Golem, but the resemblance is there]


A number of them did merit explanation after you attempted to twist them
into something else. It is "interested in AMATEUR radio". Why do you
persist in deleting that very important word?

Sigh..."amateur" refers to an activity without pecuniary interest. The
FCC uses those same words. [the FCC granted your amateur radio
license]

The word "amateur" (with or without all-capitals) does not explicitly
say TRANSMISSION OF RF ENERGY IN ALLOCATED AMATEUR
RADIO BANDS. Your prized amateur radio license is NO GOOD for
legal transmission of RF energy OUTSIDE of allocated amateur bands.

In fact, in some U.S. civilian radio services it is perfectly legal to
transmit RF energy WITHOUT a license of any kind!!! Sunovagun!

Poor baby. Another Heilian rant shot down in flames.


You've misdefined your interest.

Not me. YOU. All wrong, Golem...er, I mean Frodo.

I HAVE defined my "interest" quite correctly.

That you totally refuse to believe it is not my problem. Yours.

Your intellectual presbyopia is glaringly obvious.

You have interest in internet newsgroup posting.

No more so than regular physical exercise. :-)

I have lots of interest in my bank. I have monetary interest elsewhere.

You have interest in outlining your past professional glories.

Tsk, tsk, tsk, very subjective use of adjectives on your part.

I've spent 51 years in professional radio-electronics activity and none
of it can qualify as "glorious." Intellectually INTERESTING, yes, and
some of it quite enjoyable. If some of it was more involved than what
you did, TS, that's the breaks of life.

Maybe your distemper is flaring up again because I got assigned to
a very large HF transmitting facility while in the U.S. Army...and got
rank and responsibility operating many high-powered HF transmitters.
51 years ago. Before your first hamme raddio license. TS for you.

You aren't involved in amateur radio.

Not involved in TRANSMITTING RF ENERGY ON ALLOCATED HAM
BANDS, true. :-)

TRANSMIT, Baggins, TRANSMIT. Like in legal RF energy within
those tight, confining HF band bounds.

I'm just advocating the elimination of morse code testing for any radio
license but you desperately want to make that some kind of grande
production of drama and pathos, a giant mountain built out of a mole
hill of your old morse message blanks. Tsk, tsk, tsk, you try such
theatrics! Do you have an interest in the theater? :-)

I'll just put you down in the same emotional category as other
emotionally-seven-year-old Extras.

Those are very "involved" as long as their attention spans last... :-)

LHA / WMD

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Looks like you could use some lead in your pencil.

Okay, get the lead out of your ass and pass it around. :-)

LHA / WMD
















Some things just seem to "write themselves," don't they? :-)

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...

After having committed the words "I am only here to civilly
debate the Morse Code test issue", Leonard H. Anderson, a known
pathological liar and newsgroup antagonist, further demonstrated his
illness by commiting THESE words to the newsgroup:

In article , Dave Heil
determined to be as snarly as possible scribbles in crayon:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil

writes:

You are an amateur extra, a shining role model for the amateur
community.

And you are not. You're not a Novice. Your'e not a Tech. You're not a
General. You're not an Advanced. You aren't a participant.

I am an electronics engineer, working for pecuniary interest, but no
longer at regular hours. I am also a hobbyist without pecuniary
compensation.

Right. There you go back into your professional background.

I've been working on that professional background for 51 years. :-)

That isn't amateur radio.

That isn't HAM radio, sweetums. "Amateur" is defined as "without
pecuniary interest." Even the FCC defines amateur radio that way.

AND...Your Scumminess...THEY ("They" being the very same FCC YOU
cited) don't call it "Ham" radio...THEY call it AMATUER Radio.

YOU, after all, are the one whio points out that THEY, not "we"
nor the ARRL, are the one's who "make the rules"...

Ergo YOU, licensed or not, are bound by THIER regulations by
virtue of being a US citizen.

Sorry, Your Putziness...Dems da facts.

Lots of us are hobbyists in any number of fields.

You are out standing in your field now.

"I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test
issue"...From yet another LennieLie perpetrated in this forum by
Leonard H. Anderson.

You're some kind of hobbyist. You aren't a radio amateur.

Poor baby. Still so confused, scrunching up his fat little fingers,
bound and determined to Have His Way!

"I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test
issue"...From yet another LennieLie perpetrated in this forum by
Leonard H. Anderson.

Hobbyists in radio are defineable as amateurs in radio if they do not
make any income from it.

Yet the FCC defines RADIO AMATEURS as being licensed in the
Amateur Radio Service.

Scumbag spinmasters such as yourself can spin it any way you
want...You're STILL not a Radio Amateur BY THE FCC'S DEFINITION.

Poor baby, doesn't understand that amateur radio licenses are NO
GOOD outside of allocated amateur bands. That's true. Anyone can
verify that with Title 47 Code of Federal Regulations, especially in
Parts 1 and 2..

Not germane to the FACT that YOU do not have ANY OPERATOR or
STATION license combintation that will allow you to operate a radio
station in the AMATUER RADIO SERVICE...Nor in any other service, save
for Part 15 and Part 95.

Did you know that the federal government can operate all kinds of RF
emitters without having ANY operators licensed? True. A ham license
there isn't worth the price of a ham sandwich. No criminal liability!

Not germane to the FACT that YOU do not have ANY OPERATOR or
STATION license combintation that will allow you to operate a radio
station in the AMATUER RADIO SERVICE...Nor in any other service, save
for Part 15 and Part 95.

Don't you just HATE it when your rant gets destroyed?

I am sure he would if he were ranting or if anything he'd said
were untrue.

YOU are free to believe otherwise, but YOU are the one ranting,
and YOU are the one who DOES NOT MEET THE CRITERIA as a LICENSED
OPERATOR in ANY radio service, Lennie.

Your GROL allows you NO priviledges WITHOUT a station license.

Your GROL ONLY allows you to "operate" under the auspices of
someone else's station license, and ONLY to the DISCREET channel(s)
and THE mode specified by THAT licnese.

I've been involved with radio and electronics, both with and without
pecuniary interest since 1947.

Bully for you. You haven't been involved in amateur radio at all.

I haven't been involved in LICENSED amateur radio.

As of today you've NOT been involved in AMATEUR RADIO. You are
not a licensee. You've had some articles published in an long-defunct
magazine, but you have yet to prove to anyone that your "work" was
original

Too bad I can't bring up Jim Fisk as a reference (he is SK). I don't
know about Alf Wilson, W6NIF, or Rich Rosen. They were rather
involved with HAM RADIO.

Judging by thier callsigns, they are licensed AMATEUR RADIO
OPERATORS, as defined by the FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION...

You DO remember them, don't you, Sir Scumbag? THEY are the
UNLICENSED politicians that YOU constantly remind us that are IN
CHARGE...

THEY are the one's who define what AMATEUR RADIO is...NOT an
unlicensed, ex-radio technician retiree in Southern Kalifornia.

I guess you really showed us, huh?

That's not difficult.

So far for YOU, it is...You've not showed us anything but
your...well...your butt...

Guess you need to get those "Depends" taped up a bit higher,
Lennie.

I returned your snipped line to its rightful place. We wouldn't want
you to mislead others now, would we?

Anyone can read these public postings without your selective
editing.

A Pearl of Wisdom from the master of the "selectiv(ly) edit(ed)"
rant.

You don't seem to comprehend half of it, but that's quite another
problem and all yours.

Comprehend THIS, Scumbag:

Not germane to the FACT that YOU do not have ANY OPERATOR or
STATION license combintation that will allow you to operate a radio
station in the AMATUER RADIO SERVICE...Nor in any other service, save
for Part 15 and Part 95.

Right. U.S. amateur radio is a SECRET, classified service which NO
outsider can possibly know about, therefore no one can comment
unless they have an amateur license.

You can read up on it in "Now You're Talking".

Morsemanship isn't "talking." It's beeping.

It's communicating. Skillful communicating at that.

It's a skill that we Might Morsemen have that the Unwashed do
not.

Wrong. You've been corrected on this same mis-statement of yours on a
number of occasions. It is "interest in AMATEUR radio", Leonard.

Noooo, noooo. You are desperately trying to hang on but are
inexorably drawn over the edge. It's a very long drop below you...

LICENSED amateur radio is what you are trying (vainly) to say and then
only to be legal with the federal government on transmitting RF energy
WITHIN allocated amateur radio bands. As the FCC explains, an
amateur radio license is NOT required for transmitting RF energy outside
of amateur radio bands. That sort of thing is quite illegal.

Only YOU are trying to discuss "outside of amateur radio bands",
Lennie, and that's only because it's the only thing that can even
REMOTELY tie you to any form of radio communication.

That's only for CIVILIAN radio services and the FCC has NO jurisdiction
over government users of radio.

Hmmmmm.....Since we're CIVILIANS, it seems PERFECTLY appropritate
that THOSE are the "rules" that we discuss.

But, did you know that UNLICENSED civilians can use certain allocated
radio bands and transmit RF energy without taking a single test? True!
Been several of those since 1958! Ask the FCC about non-amateur
radio services if you are too "involved" in amateur radio activity to go
look it up.

With the exception of Part 15 and Part 95, any citizen operating
an UNLICENSED radio transmitter is at risk for criminal prosecution.

Neither your decades-long "interest" nor your "Extra right out of the
box" boast of several years ago have resulted in your having taken a
single step toward obtaining even the most basic level of amateur radio
license.

Poor baby. Still angry over the past?

You STILL can't understand why I am here. I've explained it enough
times, but your have this set-in-concrete mind that can't get flexible
enough to understand. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

"I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue"...

Yes, Lennie...we know why you are "here"...We've added THAT lie
in with the REST of the ones you've promulgated in this forum.

If you are still munching cashews from your glorious middle Africa
"Foreign Service" days, I'd throw them out...either than or too much
beeping has affected your mind. [Guinea-Bisseau is the African
center for cashew exporting...about their best export...]

"I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue"...

As I said...

A number of them did merit explanation after you attempted to twist them
into something else. It is "interested in AMATEUR radio". Why do you
persist in deleting that very important word?

Sigh..."amateur" refers to an activity without pecuniary interest. The
FCC uses those same words. [the FCC granted your amateur radio
license]

BIGGER SIGH....The very same FCC Commissioners that YOU
constantly refer to are the ones who have made the definition,
Scumbag.

In the context of FCC rules and regulations, "Amateur" is a
person LICENSED in the AMATUER RADIO SERVICE...

A status YOU do not presently hold...Thank God.

In fact, in some U.S. civilian radio services it is perfectly legal to
transmit RF energy WITHOUT a license of any kind!!! Sunovagun!

Ohhhhhhhhh, baby!

Part 15 and Part 95....

I am soooooooooooo impressed! About enough "RF energy" to be
heard across town if the conditions are right with the technical
limitations imposed by PArt 15, and door-to-door trash that makes it
almost impossible to be heard across town even if the conditions ARE
right on Part 95.

Poor baby. Another Heilian rant shot down in flames.

Not hardly.

Since you try to change the FCC'S definition of what Amateurs
are, and since YOU are NOT an FCC Commissioner and not entitled to
that priviledge, I'd say the "rant" was yours and the one going down
in flames is you...Again...

You've misdefined your interest.

Not me. YOU. All wrong, Golem...er, I mean Frodo.

"I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test
issue"...Leonard H. Anderson

I HAVE defined my "interest" quite correctly.

Not by FCC definitions, Lennie...Only by your own. In the eyes
of the FCC, you are just a private citizen.., a "hobbyist",
perhaps...An "amateur" in many different ways, but in THIER
deifintion, you are NOT an "Amateur".

That you totally refuse to believe it is not my problem. Yours.

The YOU "totally refuse" to accept that your attempts to rewrite
federal definitions to YOUR satisfaction is laughable....That you do
it in public and in such a way as to totally humiliate yourself and
family name is incredulous.

Your intellectual presbyopia is glaringly obvious.

YOUR lack of ANY intellectual contributions to Amateur Radio are
even more glaring.

You have interest in internet newsgroup posting.

No more so than regular physical exercise.

I still offer to take you around the block a few times, Your
Putziness...To make it more interesting, I'll carry my field pack with
me (around 40 pounds).

I have lots of interest in my bank. I have monetary interest elsewhere.

You have interest in outlining your past professional glories.

Tsk, tsk, tsk, very subjective use of adjectives on your part.

WHOOHOO! Such an allegation coming from the master of the
Newsgroup Obfuscation!

I've spent 51 years in professional radio-electronics activity and none
of it can qualify as "glorious."

No doubt...how "glorius" can it be to follow in someone elses
footsteps step-by-step...?!?!

Intellectually INTERESTING, yes, and
some of it quite enjoyable. If some of it was more involved than what
you did, TS, that's the breaks of life.

How "involved" can a copycat be, Lennie...?!?!

Maybe your distemper is flaring up again because I got assigned to
a very large HF transmitting facility while in the U.S. Army...and got
rank and responsibility operating many high-powered HF transmitters.
51 years ago. Before your first hamme raddio license. TS for you.

Again with the relapsing to profanity (or at least the
insinuation of profanity) in order to "make a point"...

Your "assignment" as a radio clerk in 1950's Japan is about as
"glorious" as your life ever got, I am sure, hence your blatherings
and antagonism in THIS forum...

Poor Lennie...Still unable to bring himself off his marble
pillar long enough to join mere mortals and take an Amateur Radio exam
and join in with the rest of us...enjoying Amatuer Radio and all that
it entails...

You aren't involved in amateur radio.

Not involved in TRANSMITTING RF ENERGY ON ALLOCATED HAM
BANDS, true.

Thee are no "HAM BANDS" in the United States, Lennie...However
the Federal Communications Commission DOES specify the allocation
of numerous bands from the MF spectrum through microwaves to the
AMATEUR RADIO SERVICE.

47CFR refers, if you need help...

TRANSMIT, Baggins, TRANSMIT. Like in legal RF energy within
those tight, confining HF band bounds.

Ignorance, Lennie....97% of all Amateur Radio allocations are
ABOVE 30Mhz...Spectrum YOU could be using by the end of the week if
wanted to...

I'm just advocating the elimination of morse code testing for any radio
license but you desperately want to make that some kind of grande
production of drama and pathos, a giant mountain built out of a mole
hill of your old morse message blanks. Tsk, tsk, tsk, you try such
theatrics! Do you have an interest in the theater?

Lennie, you've only further proven that YOU are so far out of
touch with YOURSELF and what you do in this forum, that you warrant
confinement as a 5150 mental health hold under California revised code
for evaluation of mental health disorders.

I'll just put you down in the same emotional category as other
emotionally-seven-year-old Extras.

Those are very "involved" as long as their attention spans last.

Obviously the chronologically aged seven year old had enough
attention span to pass the exam...Which seems to have eluded you....at
HOW old...?!?!

Rant, rant, rant, Lennie...we have YOUR number.

It's ZERO.

Steve, K4YZ

PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Brian Kelly) writes:

(N2EY) wrote in message

Miniature is for poodles.

Yeah, like Audrey Hepburn.

How'd you know she was one of my favorites?

Your bio is in the members-only Bowling Team Captains website, they
know EVERYTHING about yew boy.

How many FD QSOs you make so far with the little stuff? The Type 7 did 629
one year....

How many did it make last year?

About 300 in SS, in a half-hearted effort.

SOP for SS . .

My Type 75A4/T4XB did 1,000-1,200 several times in the CQ WW CW.

Sure - with ten times the power

Lemmee know when you run into an SB-200 which does any such thing.
Maybe 450 watts out on a dry cold day. Max.

and big antennas, in a contest twice as long as
SS or FD.
With all the comforts of home and a spotting net......

In a contest which is an order of magnitude tougher than SS never mind
silly FD. Radio picnic.

DX isn't my bag. Domestic contests are. One of the Barracuda Rules is that you
don't
try to beat the other guy at his game, you get him to play your game.

Pretty lame excuse for an excuse Micollis.


How many you put in the log for 'RS?

None on my own. Turned out that more ops showed up than expected, five
plus me which rendered me surplus labor. They all know the logger
inside out which I don't know so I got attached to the primary run
station as it's second set of ears. On 20 & 40 with the legendary
W8FJ, incredible op that he is. 200/Hr rates no sweat. Name of my game
was to dredge callsigns up out of the muck when he didn't. Worked but
he didn't miss many. OhYeah, I got the dust knocked off my skills BIG
time! Which is the bottom-line reason I tripped to Glenmoore to burrow
in with this bunch. Mission accomplished. In spades.

Two-station HP category, 6,000+ q's, 11.3 meg, missed a one-weekend
5BDXCC by one lousy mult on 80. Howzatt for a shot at a "Clean Sweep"
eh? The big Q bands were 40 and 15. Well over 100 mults on 10M sunspot
counts be damned.

Went on after the 'test, Sig fired up on 3.830 immediately after the
closing bell to find out who beat who while we gnawed on steak
sammiches Mrs. Sig supplied. The Big Guns from all the clubs were on
freq, looney operation, guys jumped in with CW instead of SSB . . .
helluva lot of fun, all of it.

I understand, now that you've 'splained it to me. We could use a
four-foot rack, turned on its side. That's going to be one expensive
stainless panel.

Fits in a two-footer vertically with room to spare.....

There ya go Dave, the four foot rack will work.

Twice over.

Until ya add the "transverters" for 160, 60, 30, 17, 15, 12 and 10M
which the thing cannot get on now. Then comes the "modulator" and the
serial port which it doesn't have either . . Yeah, Dave. We'll need
plenty of cubic feet for this abomination.

And by the way Dave the dial in the thing is the rim of a plastic soup
bowl. Absolute truth, so help me.

The Type 7 uses a cap from a junked BC-221. The Type 6 and 5 used caps from
ARC-5 transmitters.

Dayum, another N2EY stroke of genius.

You betcha, cost me maybe $5 for the whole VFO assembly. Including spares.

Ya obviously got screwed.

And here all us no-clues been
using these synthesizer thingeys, tsk, tsk, shame on us.

You had a synthesizer in 1972?

Hell no, but you still have a 1920s style "VFO" and the rest of us do
not.

Anybody who doesn't know what knobs are for is a sick pup.

Exactly. I have each one's functions memorized. Plus they are ergonomically
designed.

Whoosh: Right over yer head.

No fatigue after hours of use.

I doubt that!

Got rid of all my Johnson gear, though (sniff). Adventurer, Viking 2 with
122, Valiant.

Good riddance, they're probably doing splendidly on 27 Mhz by now.

Not at all. The Adventurer doesn't work 'phone, the Vikings (I had 2) went to a
ham pal, and the Valiant went to an AMer.

Yeah, yeah. I sold my Valiant to a ham and he went home and
immediately ran it into his 4 el. 11M quad.

The one Viking 2 was used to make my one-and-only 160 QSO. But that's another
story....

Good, enough awready . .

73 de Jim, N2EY

w3rv

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
Brian Kelly wrote:


40' push-up mast. Site three was in Mt. Airy, across the road from a
nice, quiet 1600 acre city forest. I used a 60 foot tower there.
Finally, I moved to the west side of the city to Cheviot.

Jeez. Didja ever get to completely unpack??

It was good training for the Foreign Service days ahead. Unpack
everything, put up the antennas, operate for two or three years, take
down the antennas, pack everything, move to a new location, unpack
everything, put up the antennas...

Welp at least ya didn't suffer the size of military paychecks despite
the same lifestyle. What were you anyway, comms officer?

"World's most traveled tower". Foggy Bottom did pay you for the tower
when you left it with 'em right?

Indeed they did and they paid to move it a bunch of times.

Slick. You's have had a helluva time convincing Corporate America to
move a tower every time they relocated you.

I gave up on Detroit iron 20 years ago and I haven't run across any
particularly good reasons to go back.

Most of the U.S. machines are now much better than those made a couple
of decades back. You'll find a few Q-ships though. The Pontiac Vibe,
for example, is a Toyota.

Those are OK, my Chebby Geo is a Suzuki. Two of my daughters have
Saturns and they seem pretty good but boy their pocketbooks got
spanked good. It's all getting mish-mashed, the local GM plant is
starting to gear up for building Saabs.

I'm tuned, we have monstrous herds of the things close at hand right
here, we do some *serious* deer-ducking too. At 60 mph on four-lane
divided highways.

The past couple of winters it hasn't been uncommon to come home at night
to find twenty or thirty of the critters on our place. They've even
bedded down right around the perimeter of the house.

A lot of the wild critters which have been running away from human
civilation for years are adapting and moving back in with us. About
five years ago a mountain lion showed up around here. 'Possums and
racoons are driving the city folk nuts, etc. WRT to deer what we need
is more mountain lions, *lots* more.

I have a half side of beef in the freezer, your choice of beverage, a
comfy guest room and plenty of radio gear. If you talk 'EY into coming,
you guys can fight to see who gets the futon in the shack overflow room.

He gets the back deck, I get the guest room.

The guest room is comfy. The futon is twelve feet from the rig.

OK then, I'll take the futon.

I understand, now that you've 'splained it to me. We could use a
four-foot rack, turned on its side. That's going to be one expensive
stainless panel.

This is gonna be a class radio, right up there with the IC-7800, cost
in NO object.

Reminds me of OH2BH's classic tale of the Russian EMP-proof cellular
phone. It was all vacuum tubes and took up the trunk of a car.

Only a Russian . .

I'm gonna spend a few hours running with the big dawgs this weekend as
a reality check, third op at the N3RS baby multi in the ARRL CW DX
blast. Haven't done one of these for a quarter century, this is gonna
be UGLY.

I heard one of your ops calling LU2EWL on 10m yesterday.

They did quite well on 10M, lotta Qs and mults despite the gloom and
doom over the spots counts.

Dave K8MN

w3rv