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Dave Heil wrote:
an_old_friend wrote: A. Melon wrote: In article . com "an Old friend" wrote: cut Guess he was bored with the one he married. and interesting that he attacks me so vicously for being a BIsexual male but will flirt with Bisexual female It is even more interesting that you've been carrying on this exchange with the anonymous remailer user who has been calling you a faggot for the past couple of weeks. weeks? don't think so but you can't tell with the remailers and unlike you I can polite to anyone, even those that dispise me, if they can be polite in turn I've not only not flirted with bisexual woman, I've not flirted with any woman in any newsgroup. You can lead a dyslexic to Google, but you can't make him read. meaning no one my be premitted to form his/her own opinion on anything without Daves aproval. I bet your wife would disagree with your assement if she read all of your various exachnges with that woman Indeed I also simply can't understand how you can maneg to polite to a bisexaul female and yet be so moraly repulsed by a bisexual male and more of you bashing the disabled Dave K8MN |
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an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: cut More word play. Word play? Hardly. I've never participated in a State Department net on RTTY or CW. More word play. Clintonesque. I fail to see any word play. I made a factual and concise statement of the truth. the very meaning of word play as word play. Nicely done Further down you just admitted to opening and closing RTTY net using CW on "another frequency." Yes, I did. I was not active on any CW or RTTY net. It can't be much more plain that that. so you closed a RTTY net that were not on with CW? Thank you for pointing out my error. I closed a RTTY circuit by use of CW on another frequency. There was no net involved. the only plain meaning in there would saying you are nuts cut That would be the only meaning with which you could come up. Well... It never began. You should work on your facts. The W1AW operator is paid a salary to transmit on amateur frequencies. School teachers may make radio transmissions as a part of their paid instructions to students. Is the W1AW op paid to transmit? Are you certain? School teachers receive a salary for teaching, not for demonstrating amateur radio. more word play If you mean that I used words to respond, then you are correct. cut As in "deep-sixed". As in "murdered?" If "murdered" is what you want to write, then write it. You aren't going to twist my words. no one is trying to twist your words just trying to pin you down to what you mean I wrote what I meant in the first place. Brian is trying to get me to say another thing. Indeed I think most people have an easier time reading my stuff at its worst than reading your dreck I think you may have just written your biggest fabrication of all. Dave K8MN |
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an old friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: A. Melon wrote: In article . com "an Old friend" wrote: cut Guess he was bored with the one he married. and interesting that he attacks me so vicously for being a BIsexual male but will flirt with Bisexual female It is even more interesting that you've been carrying on this exchange with the anonymous remailer user who has been calling you a faggot for the past couple of weeks. weeks? don't think so but you can't tell with the remailers and unlike you I can polite to anyone, even those that dispise me, if they can be polite in turn Polite in return? Seek comfort wherever you can find it, Mark. Check Google for Roger Wiseman, AB8MQ or KC8JBO to see who you've cozied up to. I've not only not flirted with bisexual woman, I've not flirted with any woman in any newsgroup. You can lead a dyslexic to Google, but you can't make him read. meaning no one my be premitted to form his/her own opinion on anything without Daves aproval. That isn't what it means at all, Mark. It means that you can go to an archived source and still not be able to comprehend what you are looking at. I bet your wife would disagree with your assement if she read all of your various exachnges with that woman You'd be completely and utterly wrong...again. Indeed I also simply can't understand how you can maneg to polite to a bisexaul female and yet be so moraly repulsed by a bisexual male You've misread or misunderstood or are deliberately being obtuse. The woman is not, repeat no bisexual. She is not, repeat not a stripper. At no time did I flirt with her. Would you like to see my archived comments from the alt.west-virginia newsgroup on those who claim to be bisexual? Right he -------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Dave Heil Mar 12 2003, 6:15 am Newsgroups: alt.west-virginia From: Dave Heil - Find messages by this author Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 06:15:48 GMT Local: Wed, Mar 12 2003 6:15 am Subject: looking in wv wrote: hello i am a married 26 yr old bisexual female i am looking for a female in the same area to get to know and hopefully get together with...if you are interesed please email me i would love to hear from you ...females or couples only...no single men remember i am married..thanks Buns, Let's see if we have this straight. You can cheat on your husband with another woman or you and your husband can cheat with another couple but you can't cheat on your husband with a single man. Does that about sum it up? I'm sure you folks are quite normal--in your own way. Dave in Cameron -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To another couple of sexual adventurers who appeared in the same newsgroup, I wrote: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Dave Heil Jan 6 2004, 8:16 am Newsgroups: alt.west-virginia From: Dave Heil - Find messages by this author Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 08:16:23 GMT Local: Tues, Jan 6 2004 8:16 am Subject: 301 MD couple seeking 3some or 4some.... Sus wrote: Married white couple seeking male or female 3some or 4some. She is 37, he is 46, both are in excellent physical condition. Your psychological and moral condition seemingly leaves a little to be desired. One can only hope that you don't have children. Dave near Cameron -------------------------------------------------------------------------- and more of you bashing the disabled My comments were directed not to the disabled as a group, but to you. You are a vicious, lying SOB. My apologies to the truly disabled. Dave K8MN |
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an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: wrote: wrote: cut Fantastic! An endorsement from the World's Greatest DXer. I'll request that it be known as the "Heil Award," in your honor. I've seen nothing to indicate an endorsement from the World's Greatest DXer. Perhaps you received an e-mail from him. While I haven't endorsed the idea, I have encouraged you to pursue it. indeed you do always encourage people to feed your ego You keep showing us that you can't comprehend the written word. I asked for no credit. The idea is Brian Burke's. I've never claimed to be the World's Greatest DXer. You've come up with nothing once again, frantic fabricator. cut As to learning "ANY diplomacy", there is never an instance where an ambassador calls a communications type and says, "We've just received news from Washington. I want you to go to the Foreign Ministry and make a demarche". And there you have it. Yes, there you have it. Ambassadors, Deputy Chiefs of Mission, Political and Economics Officers make demarches, telephone and write to foreign ministers, presidents, prime ministers and the like. Information Management personnel have quite different job requirements. indeed We may all the god for that... We may all the god? Just how do we accomplish that? ...the fact you were a file clerk was obviously much better for the nation and the world than puting you in real diplomatic work Ah, ah, ah, manic manufacturer of fables! I was never a file clerk. There are people who file things in embassies. They used to be called "secretaries" but they're now called "Office Management Specialists". Then again, those of us who were "Information Management Specialists" as a broad subgroup, used to be "Support Communications Officers". I liked the old term. The generic term "Communicators" is used on a daily basis. He was merely their messenger. Perhaps it soothes you to cling to that belief. In addition to sending messages, what else did you do? I'm certain that I've outlined it before. In addition to sending messages, I received messages. :-) My My such ornerous duties Only a twit would cut an entire paragraph and then write "My My such ornerous duties (sic)". cut me up. Cut you up? Is this the masochistic side of you coming to the surface? Then there's Heil's thrilling tales of African adventures where he "synchronized" State Department communications via morsemanship in the 1980s... He opened and closed rtty circuits with CW? He surely did, but not on the same frequency as the RTTY circuit. What frequency? A different one! i see more non answer answerer An answer was provided. You didn't like it. You have no clearance and no need to know. cut None of that has anything to do with amateur radio...unless one counts the entirety of the Department of State as an "amateur" effort of foreign policy. Do you think has an anti-U.S. Foreign Policy bias, Brian? I -could- pretend to not understand your question, but that would be too heilish. I think that Len has an anti-Heil bias. That has been obvious, but I asked about a U.S. Foreign Policy bias. He has frequently taken pot shots at the U.S. Department of State and U.S. Foreign Policy. Indeed and you flame Len for this american tradition of questioning the action of the natiion, you flame him for prefroming the DUTY of an amercian citizen I'm sure that Len does a lot of "preforming". In this instance, he was not questioning any action at all, just thumping on the Department of State. I don't expect you to be able to tell the difference. Ask for some help. cut With that degree, you'd likely be able to figure that Bissau and Freetown are across the continent from Asmara. When my old colleagues speak of the "West African Echo" they don't include East Africa. Go figure. I didn't work into nor did I work through Asmara. The missing piece of the puzzle for both of you is the location of the station I worked into. Good luck. Ascension. I only wish I was at liberty to tell you. rich the I could tell you bit have to kill routine. Tom cruise does it better dave cut I was doing it before Tom Cruise was old enough to work. The fact is, there are things which I know that I simply can't share with you. If it bothers you, I don't care. I agree. Has Len been insulted? denigrated? belittled? If there's a God in Heaven, he has. mighty generous I'm a mighty generous guy. As to the FCC staffer schpiel, it has been previously addressed a number of times. Len isn't an FCC staffer, nor is he a radio amateur. Nor are most FCC staffers, even the ones dealing directly with amateur radio. That's right. They're paid to do a job, whether they participate in some radio service or not. Len isn't a participant and he isn't a regulator. so what? Check Google. I don't have time to explain it for those who can't keep up. why do you seem to deny the rights of american citizen in amercia? Len has no right for his views to be accepted. His views carry no more weight than my own. The terms "America" and "American" are capitalized. There is no "Amercia". Heil may have spent too much time in the basement with his radios. Now *that* would be weird. My hamshack consists of two, adjacent second floor rooms. You told us you lived in a tarpaper shack. There's tarpaper under there somewhere. ah yess another lie Let me see if I understand you. You wan't to promote a quarrel over whether there is tarpaper on my house? Do I have it correct? Dave K8MN |
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an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: cut That's three things offered by you as fact. Please provide any old evidence at all that what you've claimed, that Jim Miccolis prevented Len from presenting his views here. A single instance will do. Do you ever tire of being wrong? Do you ever tire of being an A1 Operator and work out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters? Do you? Why no, Brian, I've never tired of being an A-1 Op. Do you tire of being one? I have no certificate from Hiram, suitable for framing. But I do take pride in my station, my signal, and my operating abilities. That is admirable. And if I were aware that French hams were out of band, I wouldn't be completing circuits for them nor sending them QSL cards. It is your right to do so. You may research the band allocations for each and every DX station you hear, before you actually call them or respond to them. It will assuredly cut down on the number of contacts your make, especially in a contest or pileup situation. You should also bear in mind that nothing in the regulations under which you operate, mandates that you do so. You are responsible for making sure that your own signal is where it is supposed to be. If any station I've ever worked was where he was not supposed to be, he'd likely not be able to show off a treasured QSL from a rare station which read the exact frequency of operation (i.e. 50.115 MHz). Additionally, you can check on the web or by using a callsign database, to be certain that each domestic station you might contact is where he or she is supposed to be under the terms of his or her license. Finally, there is nothing in the regs which makes you responsible for my station operation either here in the United States, in Tanzania or in any other country. indeed you spend a page avoiding the issue The issue? The issue is waaaaaaay up at the top of the page. To save you the trouble of going up there to look, it was: "That's three things offered by you as fact. Please provide any old evidence at all that what you've claimed, that Jim Miccolis prevented Len from presenting his views here. A single instance will do." It was written by me. Brian's diversion took us down the merry path. I hope that clears things up for you. very clear Duuuuuh, not to you. You managed to hose it up. you are a fraud, and lack the moral courage to deal with an issue First, have someone define the issue for you. Then have them explain its nuances. Seek assistance in formulating a reasoned response and get your pool of typists post it in English for you. Dave K8MN |
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an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote: Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote: In article t Dave Heil wrote: cut Your example is one of how you couldn't cut it as a real man. What do you know of real men, Roger/not Roger? I know you aren't one of them. You know? How would you know? You're just some guy hiding behind anonymous remailers. which mean what? that he knows nothing? You know, I hadn't thought of that. I meant that the Roger Wiseman who is behind these anonymous remailer posts is a non-entity in my life. He has seen my precisely once in his life. But now that you've mentioned it, he really is the kind of guy who knows little of anything. Use Google and look under Roger Wiseman, AB8MQ and KC8JBO. cut You can't use your own name lest you have the police on your doorstep again. You have to be very, very careful. Really? Doubtful, since they haven't been on my doorstep. Sure they have, a number of times, and you've been invited to see them as well. You know this How? I learned of it during several visits to Glen Dale, WV Polic Chief Norman Stenger. Glen Dale Police Officers are quite familiar with Mr. Wiseman. They had dealings with him before my visits. And since when does the police deny freedom of speech? Since when *do* the police, not *does* the police. Your freedom of speech stops where my rights begin. gee you are very concerned about YOUR rights but support the abuse of other poeple rights You know not of what you speak. yep I am beigin to wonder if you are not a cut out for Stevie A cut out for him? Can you explain the concept? No wonder you were relegated to doing errand type tasks for the "State Department." I've never filled a job position which entailed "errand type tasks". Oh, so you couldn't even make the errand boy grade? Why don't you make it your life's work to try to find out? why should anyone? Precisely. such an ego you have It has nothing to do with my ego. gee looking more like Stevie Steve and I look nothing alike. You monitor local FM repeaters Good amateur practice says you should monitor before doing anything else. You'd think an world class DXer who talks to out of banders like you would know that. You know nothing of my activies on 6m from overseas. By the way, it is "a world class DXer", not "an world class DXer". Makes little difference, I've never claimed to be either. If he and the rest of US know nothing then I guess all of your posts about them must have been lies You just jumped to a false conclusion. Folks here know only because I've seen fit to tell them. The only folks who know for sure are those who worked me on 6m....and me. aroogance now the speeling looks a lot like stevie cut YOu can tell by the aroogance and speeling, can you? C'mon. You had help. Hmm is Dave realy Stevie. It could be, but not likely Sadly Stevie's abusive self centered is all too comon You're still a twit, Mark. Dave K8MN |
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![]() Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: cut More word play. Word play? Hardly. I've never participated in a State Department net on RTTY or CW. More word play. Clintonesque. I fail to see any word play. I made a factual and concise statement of the truth. the very meaning of word play as word play. Nicely done Further down you just admitted to opening and closing RTTY net using CW on "another frequency." Yes, I did. I was not active on any CW or RTTY net. It can't be much more plain that that. so you closed a RTTY net that were not on with CW? Thank you for pointing out my error. I closed a RTTY circuit by use of CW on another frequency. There was no net involved. no it seems I have pointed out your lie the only plain meaning in there would saying you are nuts cut That would be the only meaning with which you could come up. Well... It never began. You should work on your facts. The W1AW operator is paid a salary to transmit on amateur frequencies. School teachers may make radio transmissions as a part of their paid instructions to students. Is the W1AW op paid to transmit? Are you certain? School teachers receive a salary for teaching, not for demonstrating amateur radio. more word play If you mean that I used words to respond, then you are correct. cut As in "deep-sixed". As in "murdered?" If "murdered" is what you want to write, then write it. You aren't going to twist my words. no one is trying to twist your words just trying to pin you down to what you mean I wrote what I meant in the first place. Brian is trying to get me to say another thing. Indeed I think most people have an easier time reading my stuff at its worst than reading your dreck I think you may have just written your biggest fabrication of all. not at all you spend days and day trying to franticaly avoid saying what you mean Dave K8MN |
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![]() Dave Heil wrote: an old friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: cut don't think so but you can't tell with the remailers and unlike you I can polite to anyone, even those that dispise me, if they can be polite in turn Polite in return? Seek comfort wherever you can find it, Mark. Check Google for Roger Wiseman, AB8MQ or KC8JBO to see who you've cozied up to. Comfort? boyo you need to over yourself I can be polite to those that are polite to me, making me a better man than you are, but then Dee Flint is a better man than you are I've not only not flirted with bisexual woman, I've not flirted with any woman in any newsgroup. You can lead a dyslexic to Google, but you can't make him read. meaning no one my be premitted to form his/her own opinion on anything without Daves aproval. That isn't what it means at all, Mark. It means that you can go to an archived source and still not be able to comprehend what you are looking at. yes it is what you mean noon but you are premitted to decide what you are saying I bet your wife would disagree with your assement if she read all of your various exachnges with that woman You'd be completely and utterly wrong...again. Don't know for sure but I don't think so, could be though Indeed I also simply can't understand how you can maneg to polite to a bisexaul female and yet be so moraly repulsed by a bisexual male You've misread or misunderstood or are deliberately being obtuse. The woman is not, repeat no bisexual. She is not, repeat not a stripper. At no time did I flirt with her. according to women she is Bisexual and I see the length content and nature of the exchanges between on the NG as flirting Would you like to see my archived comments from the alt.west-virginia newsgroup on those who claim to be bisexual? Right he no I saw them once you were disgusting enough without repeating yourself cut and more of you bashing the disabled My comments were directed not to the disabled as a group, but to you. You are a vicious, lying SOB. My apologies to the truly disabled. more of your lies Dave Dave K8MN |
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an old friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: cut More word play. Word play? Hardly. I've never participated in a State Department net on RTTY or CW. More word play. Clintonesque. I fail to see any word play. I made a factual and concise statement of the truth. the very meaning of word play as word play. Nicely done Further down you just admitted to opening and closing RTTY net using CW on "another frequency." Yes, I did. I was not active on any CW or RTTY net. It can't be much more plain that that. so you closed a RTTY net that were not on with CW? Thank you for pointing out my error. I closed a RTTY circuit by use of CW on another frequency. There was no net involved. no it seems I have pointed out your lie I saw the error you pointed out. I admitted the error and corrected it. the only plain meaning in there would saying you are nuts cut That would be the only meaning with which you could come up. Well... It never began. You should work on your facts. The W1AW operator is paid a salary to transmit on amateur frequencies. School teachers may make radio transmissions as a part of their paid instructions to students. Is the W1AW op paid to transmit? Are you certain? School teachers receive a salary for teaching, not for demonstrating amateur radio. more word play If you mean that I used words to respond, then you are correct. cut As in "deep-sixed". As in "murdered?" If "murdered" is what you want to write, then write it. You aren't going to twist my words. no one is trying to twist your words just trying to pin you down to what you mean I wrote what I meant in the first place. Brian is trying to get me to say another thing. Indeed I think most people have an easier time reading my stuff at its worst than reading your dreck I think you may have just written your biggest fabrication of all. not at all you spend days and day trying to franticaly avoid saying what you mean There's part of your problem. I write what I intend to convey. You attempt to read it and through an inability to comprehend or through some suspicion on your part that my words have some hidden meaning, you believe that I'm trying to avoid saying what I mean. "Paranoia striked deep into your heart it will creep" --Buffalo Springfield Dave K8MN |
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![]() Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: cut Fantastic! An endorsement from the World's Greatest DXer. I'll request that it be known as the "Heil Award," in your honor. I've seen nothing to indicate an endorsement from the World's Greatest DXer. Perhaps you received an e-mail from him. While I haven't endorsed the idea, I have encouraged you to pursue it. indeed you do always encourage people to feed your ego You keep showing us that you can't comprehend the written word. I asked for no credit. The idea is Brian Burke's. I've never claimed to be the World's Greatest DXer. You've come up with nothing once again, frantic fabricator. I understand it fine never said you asked for credit never commented on your claim you just don't understand the written word, esp if it says anything you don't wnat to read cut As to learning "ANY diplomacy", there is never an instance where an ambassador calls a communications type and says, "We've just received news from Washington. I want you to go to the Foreign Ministry and make a demarche". And there you have it. Yes, there you have it. Ambassadors, Deputy Chiefs of Mission, Political and Economics Officers make demarches, telephone and write to foreign ministers, presidents, prime ministers and the like. Information Management personnel have quite different job requirements. indeed We may all the god for that... We may all the god? Just how do we accomplish that? not my problem ...the fact you were a file clerk was obviously much better for the nation and the world than puting you in real diplomatic work Ah, ah, ah, manic manufacturer of fables! I was never a file clerk. There are people who file things in embassies. They used to be called "secretaries" but they're now called "Office Management Specialists". Then again, those of us who were "Information Management Specialists" as a broad subgroup, used to be "Support Communications Officers". I liked the old term. The generic term "Communicators" is used on a daily basis. and Torturers are called "Pain Technicians" spin it all you like clerk, but you are convincing no one, not already tkaen in by your bull**** He was merely their messenger. Perhaps it soothes you to cling to that belief. In addition to sending messages, what else did you do? I'm certain that I've outlined it before. In addition to sending messages, I received messages. :-) My My such ornerous duties Only a twit would cut an entire paragraph and then write "My My such ornerous duties (sic)". you keep geting it wrong I hadn't cut the paragraph yet cut cut Then there's Heil's thrilling tales of African adventures where he "synchronized" State Department communications via morsemanship in the 1980s... He opened and closed rtty circuits with CW? He surely did, but not on the same frequency as the RTTY circuit. What frequency? A different one! i see more non answer answerer An answer was provided. You didn't like it. You have no clearance and no need to know. more tom cruise cut None of that has anything to do with amateur radio...unless one counts the entirety of the Department of State as an "amateur" effort of foreign policy. Do you think has an anti-U.S. Foreign Policy bias, Brian? I -could- pretend to not understand your question, but that would be too heilish. I think that Len has an anti-Heil bias. That has been obvious, but I asked about a U.S. Foreign Policy bias. He has frequently taken pot shots at the U.S. Department of State and U.S. Foreign Policy. Indeed and you flame Len for this american tradition of questioning the action of the natiion, you flame him for prefroming the DUTY of an amercian citizen cut cut With that degree, you'd likely be able to figure that Bissau and Freetown are across the continent from Asmara. When my old colleagues speak of the "West African Echo" they don't include East Africa. Go figure. I didn't work into nor did I work through Asmara. The missing piece of the puzzle for both of you is the location of the station I worked into. Good luck. Ascension. I only wish I was at liberty to tell you. rich the I could tell you bit have to kill routine. Tom cruise does it better dave cut I was doing it before Tom Cruise was old enough to work. The fact is, there are things which I know that I simply can't share with you. If it bothers you, I don't care. Doesn't bother me just disgusts me your efforts to make yourself look important I agree. Has Len been insulted? denigrated? belittled? If there's a God in Heaven, he has. mighty generous I'm a mighty generous guy. As to the FCC staffer schpiel, it has been previously addressed a number of times. Len isn't an FCC staffer, nor is he a radio amateur. Nor are most FCC staffers, even the ones dealing directly with amateur radio. That's right. They're paid to do a job, whether they participate in some radio service or not. Len isn't a participant and he isn't a regulator. so what? Check Google. I don't have time to explain it for those who can't keep up. no need to check google to know that you just can't stand anyone that doesn't kowtow to you, everyong remotely honest on her knows that I was just trying to fair nd give a chance t make your point if your had one so it was just another gratouitous attack boring why do you seem to deny the rights of american citizen in amercia? Len has no right for his views to be accepted. His views carry no more weight than my own. The terms "America" and "American" are capitalized. There is no "Amercia". never len did, but he does have the right to express his opinion a right you seek to deny him and me for that matter Heil may have spent too much time in the basement with his radios. Now *that* would be weird. My hamshack consists of two, adjacent second floor rooms. You told us you lived in a tarpaper shack. There's tarpaper under there somewhere. ah yess another lie Let me see if I understand you. You wan't to promote a quarrel over whether there is tarpaper on my house? Do I have it correct? no you don't Dave K8MN |
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