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From: Dave Heil on Mon, Sep 11 2006 2:46 pm


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From: Dave Heil 940 on Sun, Sep 10 2006 3:26 pm

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From: on Sun, Sep 10 2006 7:55 am

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From: on Thurs, Sep 7 2006 6:53 pm

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If you'd say that, you'd certainly be wrong in my case. I'd say that
you accuse others of doing things and then you break out in the
"Robesin-Herr Robust-Mother Superior" mode and destroy any credibility
you had.

Tsk, tsk, Heil does NOT control or define "credibility."

I'm quite capable of understanding and using the definition of the word.


AND Hypocrisy. Witness your repeated use of "red-hatted
monkey" and "organ grinder" and "group myna (bird)" and
"Major Hoople" and a dozen or other subriquets (and brick-
bats) applied to those you cannot relate to...a small
sampling of your arrogant variation of "playing with others."

As I told you earlier, you get what you dish out. You'd no sooner blown
back into this newsgroup when you started with the cutesy names. Brian
is guilty of the same technique. As for Mark, his posting record speaks
for itself. He *is* the group Myna bird.



(1) The FCC regulates US amateur radio, NOT its
"participants."

You are not the FCC.


YOU are not of the FCC, not an official thereof...

No, I am not. You just stated who regulates U.S. amateur radio.
You are not one who does.

just another
amateur extra who gets overly angry at opposing opinions
when nobody obeys his arrogant 'commands.'

How much anger makes up "overly angry", Len? What gives you the idea
that I'm angry at all? Nobody has given more commands or invited more
people to leave than Len Anderson.


I rest my case.


Too heavy for you to carry? Ask a senior citizen to help you.

Are you volunteering to carry my luggage, Len?

Lose the "boyz in da hood"


No.

You're responding to something you wrote?

The name is almost perfect in describing the 'tude
of the morsemen dudes.

You do NOT tell me what to do, Herr Robust.

Well, Foghorn, you told you what to do. You responded to an error in
the attributions. Well done. Len Anderson isn't going to push Len
Anderson around!


You don't give orders here or in amateur radio.


YOU sure as hell do NOT. :-)

You can capitalize words and stomp your tired old feet all day long. As
long as I'm able to continue enjoying amateur radio and you stand on the
outside, pouting, life is pretty good, Len. Have a nice day.

(2) The FCC will (it must, by law) accept input on any
regulations under Title 47 C.F.R. from ANY CITIZEN.

You are certainly "any citizen".


I am a citizen of the United States of America.

What'd I just write? Your citizenship is acknowledged. You commented to
the FCC. Happy now?

(3) The issue of morse code testing of amateur radio
license applicants affects those WHO MIGHT WANT TO
GET INTO AMATEUR RADIO.

There you have a dilemma.


None at all. I got INTO radio in 1953.

You keep flipping the channel, OM. You wrote "AMATEUR" RADIO above.
Now you've switched to the generic "radio". You've never gotten into
"AMATEUR radio".


Alternatively, you've told us that you don't
have any desire to obtain an amateur radio license


True. I was granted a Commercial First 'Phone in 1956. That's
a license for a professional. I lost interest in being an
amateur after being a professional.

It looks as if you have your wish. You needn't worry about amateur
radio. Feel free to appoint yourself advocate for something-or-other in
professional radio.


..and that you've had a decades-long interest in amateur radio.


I've had a decades-long interest in RADIO and ELECTRONICS.

That isn't what you wrote. You used the words "amateur radio".

So much so that I made a career change about 48 years
ago and stayed in radio-electronics. I didn't limit
myself to just amateurism...

You've limited yourself by not including "amateurism". You're a victim
of inertia.



Have you understood these truisms as they've been explained
to you? If so, feel free to re-stick your carrot, Wallace.
Go mind your business at "Anti-Pesto."

Your "truisms" don't seem to be true, Leonardo. What's "Anti-Pesto",
another thing you're against?


Had you seen a full-length animated film called "The
Curse of the Were-Rabbit" in 2005 you would understand.

I didn't choose to see it. It sounds awful.

You do not understand the joke, therefore you did not
see a funny movie. :-)

I've seen lots of funny movies, Len. Some of 'em were even
intentionally funny.

Go rent a DVD of it and enjoy...

You don't give orders here, Len.

...that is, if you can
enjoy being away from da boyz in da 'hood,

Do you wear your pants at half mast and your ball cap backward?

...sipping
hot buttered rum in front of a fireplace with guys
trying to make fun of others. :-)

It's much too warm for the hot buttered rum. I'm still enjoying mint
juleps. We don't generally light a fire in the fireplace until sometime
in October. It is rare that we laugh at anyone other than the wrinkled
kid with his pants at half mast. He stands outside and periodically
barks an order.


Funny that your paragraph applies to your actions concerning amateur
radio regulation.


Tsk, tsk, all I am doing is advocating the elimination
of the amateur radio morse code test.

Yep. You want just a little piece of something in which you aren't
involved.


You don't tolerate any views other than your own.


I tolerate those who demand retention of the code test
in perpetuity with no validity other than their emotion
and selfishness.

On the other hand, you don't see your own actions as selfish and you
don't see that is possible that you are wrong. You've shown no
tolerance for those whose views is opposite your own.

I also speak out against them. The
pro-code-test morse zealots cannot handle that, poor
babies. Not my problem.

Sure it's your problem. Your own manner is part of your problem, poor
baby. Tsk, tsk.

If someone wants to do REAL debate, discussion I will be
more than happy to comply.

You've claimed in the past to only be here for civil debate. Your
record shows otherwise. Your words are disingenuous.

But that does not mean I
will lie down and accept everything they say.

There has been no evidence that you accept *anything* they say. You
don't even accept it standing up.


You don't play well with others.


I don't "play" with arrogant retrogrades intent on being
the ruler in some archaic radiotelegraphy society...

I know of no such organization. Give 'em my regards.

I tell
everyone what they are, stand up to them, and tell them
what to do with their "carrot": Stick it.

The above statement points the way to your failure to win converts in
this venue. Just continue to stand there, on the outside, and tell us
how to construct the building, kindly old gent.


Dave

Dave Heil wrote:

As I told you earlier, you get what you dish out. You'd no sooner blown
back into this newsgroup when you started with the cutesy names. Brian
is guilty of the same technique. As for Mark, his posting record speaks
for itself. He *is* the group Myna bird.

Who is "Brian?"

You NEVER seem to have a problem with Robesin's use of "Brain." Ever.

But here you are complaining about other people again.

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Dave Heil wrote:


As I told you earlier, you get what you dish out. You'd no sooner blown
back into this newsgroup when you started with the cutesy names. Brian
is guilty of the same technique. As for Mark, his posting record speaks
for itself. He *is* the group Myna bird.


Who is "Brian?"

If you don't know that information, all of your latest diatribe is
rather pointless.

You NEVER seem to have a problem with Robesin's use of "Brain." Ever.

You've NEVER been advised of my position on the matter. Ever.

But here you are complaining about other people again.

For the record, tell us what it is that you were doing in the post to
which I am now responding.

Were you and Len not complaining about K4YZ in recent days?

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:


As I told you earlier, you get what you dish out. You'd no sooner blown
back into this newsgroup when you started with the cutesy names. Brian
is guilty of the same technique. As for Mark, his posting record speaks
for itself. He *is* the group Myna bird.


Who is "Brian?"

If you don't know that information, all of your latest diatribe is
rather pointless.

Point made.

That you can't answer the question shows that you are as clueless as
you actually pretend to be.

You NEVER seem to have a problem with Robesin's use of "Brain." Ever.

You've NEVER been advised of my position on the matter. Ever.

I have by your actions.

You complain about Len, Mark, and for whatever reason, my use of
"cutesy" names.

Never have you mentioned Robesin's use of "Brain."

But here you are complaining about other people again.

For the record, tell us what it is that you were doing in the post to
which I am now responding.

Were you and Len not complaining about K4YZ in recent days?

His constant use of "cutesy" names which you seem to have an objection
to, but only when other people use them.

You're as two-faced as a person can be.

Get over yourself.

From: on Tues, Sep 12 2006 3:37 am

Dave Heil wrote:
As I told you earlier, you get what you dish out. You'd no sooner blown
back into this newsgroup when you started with the cutesy names. Brian
is guilty of the same technique. As for Mark, his posting record speaks
for itself. He *is* the group Myna bird.

Who is "Brian?"

You NEVER seem to have a problem with Robesin's use of "Brain." Ever.

Hypocrisy in action, Brian. :-)

Heil belongs to the cute coterie of elite morsemen extras. As
such he thinks he has "federal authorization" to do whatever
he pleases anywhere. :-)

But here you are complaining about other people again.

No sweat, Brian, it's business as usual with the elite, smug,
arrogant, and oh-so-"superior" extras... :-)

Their dictum is "Morsemen are NEVER at fault, ever!"

Really BAD public relations for US amateur radio.

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Dave Heil wrote:

wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:



As I told you earlier, you get what you dish out. You'd no sooner blown
back into this newsgroup when you started with the cutesy names. Brian
is guilty of the same technique. As for Mark, his posting record speaks
for itself. He *is* the group Myna bird.


Who is "Brian?"

If you don't know that information, all of your latest diatribe is
rather pointless.


Point made.

That you can't answer the question shows that you are as clueless as
you actually pretend to be.

Don't ask me, "who is Brian" and expect me to take your question seriously.


You NEVER seem to have a problem with Robesin's use of "Brain." Ever.

You've NEVER been advised of my position on the matter. Ever.


I have by your actions.

No, you assuredly have not. I have taken no actions regarding the matter.

You complain about Len, Mark, and for whatever reason, my use of
"cutesy" names.

Len uses 'em. You jump on his band wagon. You've used the same cutesy
names as Len.

Never have you mentioned Robesin's use of "Brain."

That's right. I haven't.


But here you are complaining about other people again.

For the record, tell us what it is that you were doing in the post to
which I am now responding.

Were you and Len not complaining about K4YZ in recent days?


His constant use of "cutesy" names which you seem to have an objection
to, but only when other people use them.

To be quite honest, I don't often read his posts. When he and Mark get
into a contest, I find that I often have better things to do. I don't
read Mark's posts at all unless someone responds to one of them.

You're as two-faced as a person can be.

That's simply not right, Brian. You often pop into the group for no
other purpose than to snipe at Steve or to take a poke at me. Then you
sit back and take objection if something similar is tossed back your
way. If you're swinging at Steve and he calls you "Brain", what do you
think I should be doing about it? What action should I take? Should I
place a quarter page ad in QST, condemning his action? Most of the time
I don't give a rat's patoot about it.

Get over yourself.

I have no reason to do so. I'm lquite comfortable in my skin.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:

I have no reason to do so. I'm lquite comfortable in my skin.

Dave K8MN

From another thread, Dave Heil wrote:

I don't think a guy who can't spell "believe" is ready to lead anyone
anywhere.

Dave K8MN

I'll couple your next typo to that statement in preperation for your
run for the Roanoke Division.

Thanks for your opinion.

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On 13 Sep 2006 16:51:19 -0700, wrote:


Dave Heil wrote:

I have no reason to do so. I'm lquite comfortable in my skin.

Dave K8MN

From another thread, Dave Heil wrote:

I don't think a guy who can't spell "believe" is ready to lead anyone
anywhere.

Dave K8MN

I'll couple your next typo to that statement in preperation for your
run for the Roanoke Division.

amazing the concenr these guys have over spelling

Only other people's spelling.

Note my typo in "preparation." I guess I'm not made of leadership
material, either.

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Dave Heil wrote:


I have no reason to do so. I'm lquite comfortable in my skin.

Dave K8MN


From another thread, Dave Heil wrote:


I don't think a guy who can't spell "believe" is ready to lead anyone
anywhere.


I'll couple your next typo to that statement in preperation for your
run for the Roanoke Division.

Do that. You'll have plenty of time to marshall your resources.
By the way, I can spell "believe".

Thanks for your opinion.

Thanks for your interest.

Dave K8MN

From: on Wed, Sep 13 2006 6:33 pm

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On 13 Sep 2006 16:51:19 -0700, wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

I have no reason to do so. I'm lquite comfortable in my skin.


From another thread, Dave Heil wrote:

I don't think a guy who can't spell "believe" is ready to lead anyone
anywhere.

Dave K8MN

I'll couple your next typo to that statement in preperation for your
run for the Roanoke Division.

amazing the concenr these guys have over spelling

Only other people's spelling.

Note my typo in "preparation." I guess I'm not made of leadership
material, either.

Brian, you forgot the "H" after 'Preparation'... :-)

Had Fearless Leader applied that he wouldn't have written
"lquite" after "I have no reason to do so..." :-)

Of course Heil as the "authority" to correct everyone's
spelling. He is a certified, authorized, (self) appointed
extra class linguist. He is fluent in written Hunnish.
He is effluent.

Absolutely NO no-code-test advocate is good enough for these
mighty radio gods of the amateur morseways. :-)